It doesn't? Then like that no point then. If later need pcie5 , that time will can buy mobo. If buy b650 now can go cheap.

Not sure about USBs but I sus it's still on the slower side for b650? But for the x870 tomahawk I got it has some fast usb4. Where another Mobo the x870 carbon, it added everything usb4 as if ur mouse and keyboard need that...

Waste of money 😅

I think they said the newer and platform is 2038? Something about more coees and threads. My question is, how much? And how much power will it use 😬

For my system right now,.just upgrading graphics card will boost fps. But right I'm pretty ok with my gaming so I don't feel like upgrading just yet.

A 5070ti coat rm 3.5 to 4k 😬

Don't even bother 5900 those go for 11-12k 🤢

I like many others went with a Radeon graphics card cauz is cheaper. I don't care for ray tracing. I do miss the dlss though since it's better than fsr. That said I can do apex legend at high fps 240 without fsr for rx7800xt

AMD comments on burning AM5 socket — chipmaker blames motherboard vendors for not following official BIOS guidelines
Seems the issue isn't 100% fixed.

finished upgrading to new am5. works very good, no regret.

to go 4k resolution gaming cost too much.  new graphic card required (roughly about 3.5k to 4k for a 5070ti), and maybe a 9800x3d for the extra performance to match the graphic card for 4k (this is 1k extra vs the 7800x3d). And the existing psu need to change as well to match the new graphic card, so that would be about 500-700 or something.

Anyway happy with my upgrade, will test later for apex legends. but general surfing so smooth

i did the pbu tuning by negative -15, seems stable.

so for a 5070ti a 7800x3d would be good enough is it?


i was testing youtube streaming + gaming using the new upgrade.

got 1440p ultra settings for apex legends, got obs, got the vtuber app running, got obsbot for video cam and music.

Also i forgot, but i was downloading diablo 4 on battlenet so that was saturating my limited internet speed 100 mbps 

it still streamed ok.. haha. if u watch the ingame performance thing to the right, the fps is almost 240 fps most of the time. i'll install msi monitor later when free 

oo plz like and subscribe, ty 

doing more testing

messed up my setting so when streaming it was more like average 150 fps while streaming. Before i think it was not as accurate because i did not yet setup msi after burner. after i did, i notice some issues. Like the 7800X3D this one max out 100% 

Graphic card was like 70-90%

still tweaking settings seeing what works. To be fair i was doing other stuff while gaming, so not the most ideal condition
after googling, found out the RX7800XT can't do HDR streaming (it lacks the encoder feature for that)   thats one downside. when i first bought this graphic card, this wasnt a feature i was on the look out for since i didnt have a proper hdr monitor so i didn't care at the time.
at some points in the stream (few times), the screen froze, so i could do anything for a few seconds. So essentially i was a sitting duck in the game    look at 4:00 to 4:05 u see it freezes 

Notice how the graphic card and cpu utilization at or close to 100% 
my obs output streaming settings are

audio - ffmpeg aac.

video encoder: amd hw av1

rate control: hqcbr

bitrate: 9000 kbs

keyframe interval 2s

preset quality

profile main

max b frames 2
ANy suggestions to improve? Mostly how to get the graphic card and cpu utilization to lower slightly? if it was stable at 90% it would be alright. But at 100% i get that weird frozen issue for few sec every now and then. I check obs and it claims no dropped frames. But when playing it's a problem
CPU and GPU, temps are fine.

For CPU i went to bios and did the pbo underclock. Mine is negative 20 which seems stable. When i tried 30 it was ok for a while but i experienced a crash later on in the day, this is why i set from 30 to 20, now seems stable. for those that don't already know, the reason why you do this is to lower the temps for your cpu, and also increase performance. there is nothing to lose to try doing this for amd. Only certain amd mobo chipsets has pbo however. Mines a X870 so it has it. So even when you are low balling for mobo chipset, make sure it at least has pbo feature 

I also adjusted the cpu and casing fan speeds to be more aggresive on the temp curve.

Next, in the radeon graphics card tuning settings, i adjust the fan to kick in sooner and more aggresive on temp rise. Might be louder but i honestly dont notice the sound increase for it to be an issue.

undervolt? oo.. thx for the hint, thx

im transfering stuff so i didnt get a chance to run cinebench for 5 hours yet. so no.

my first crash was with pbu negative 30. it just crash after less than a day once. i just chalked that up to the undervolting for pbo, so i changed to 20. no crashes yet.

surprisingly even when doing the streaming + gaming + file transfer, where the gpu and cpu were maxing out, the only worse thing that happened was that occasional screen freeze for a few seconds. But no crash.

when i am not stressing the system like that, it just plays smooth no issue 

when i tried occt free it stop after 1 hour though. do i need to buy to make it run longer? 

ill try these and report back results later ty 

*update

anyway after test, seems it can do gaming + youtube streaming + play music. It does almost max out graphic card and cpu though, but not to the point like before where it froze    So yeah i think it's fine. average fps about 200. Keep in mind this is when streaming. So when not streaming, i will see 240 fps usually. But it's still quite good fps is still decently high even when streaming regardless. So yes for my new 1440p gaming streaming build, this works fine 

*update

anyway after test, seems it can do gaming + youtube streaming + play music. It does almost max out graphic card and cpu though, but not to the point like before where it froze    So yeah i think it's fine. average fps about 200. Keep in mind this is when streaming. So when not streaming, i will see 240 fps usually. But it's still quite good fps is still decently high even when streaming regardless. So yes for my new 1440p gaming streaming build, this works fine 

no i kept pbo as negative 20 its fine. my initial was 30 which didn't work cause i had 1 crash. i donno if it was because of this or something else, but i changed it to 20 anyway just in case.
i was wondering why my cinebench score was lower than a 5800x. seems this might be why, though not sure.

I did enable this feature in bios, but google say its not worth enabling at least for the 7800x3d


this X3D gaming setting in msi bios was only meant for the 9k series X3d cpus, not for the 7800x3d with a single ccd.

I didn't know. i simply saw it say X3d so i thought that should be enabled 
for something like this in bios, MSI REALLY should give a note to warn users, ONLY for the 9000 series X3D cpu, not for the 5000 and 7000 series because that enable setting for X3D gaming worsens performance only for those other cpus.
*update

wow big difference
see the cpu utilization especially well i didnt have my tvuber app running but still. also we won the game after making that change haha 
if colors r off its cause im playing in hdr so apex hdr is enabled. but in obs i have sdr encoding enabled since hdr encoding doesnt work since rx7800xt lacks the encoder for hdr apparently 

well thats what reddit said, not my quote 

i thought the 9800x3d was a 2ccd though? was i mistaken?

Just don't pair it with Asrock mobo...

Nah, it's higher on AROCK compared to other brands.
Heck, even non-X3D 9000 series are dying on Asrock mobos.
Definitely Asrock bios tuning is problematic on 9000 series.

Delidded my Ryzen 9950X3D and I'm quite satisfied with the results. Before the delid, the CPU would hit over 80°C+ during Cinebench runs. After delidding, it's now staying around the mid-60s，quite a big improvement.

mid 60s during cinebench stress test? thats impressive 

but honestly if its under 85c during stress test, should be fine? It's only at above that and for prolong period would it be bad for cpu right? but still cooler temps always welcome 

Time to join new thread. Recently got back on the AMD bandwagon with a 7500F. iirc my last AMD was an Athlon64 a long time ago.

Anyways I'm using an MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi, is the "Game Boost" option in BIOS the same as PBO? Still blur about all these new Ryzen stuff.

RAM prices are really crazy now. wanna build a new PC with 9800x3D, a 16gbx2 kit 6000MHz CL30 cost like RM800+ easily.

Last week I bought Klevv Cras 16GBx2 6000 CL28-36-36 1.4V for RM639 before vouchers. From Just IT Shopee.

edit: yikes seems like the price has gone up since then.

Yup. Did not keep up with the thread. Just coincidence needed to send my parts to my mum's PC as replacement. All about timing.

I just gotten that Acer predator 6000MHz CL30, MSI B650M gaming plus wifi mentioned here, phantom spirit 120 SE and the 9800X3D. Not sure that Dell 1000W PSU is compatible or not. If not probably need to get a PSU as well. Any recommendations for a PSU. btw, gonna pair it with my existing RTX 4090.