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babylon52281
post Nov 21 2024, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Nov 21 2024, 08:52 AM)
Wonder which 4
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According to GN; i9-12900K, i7-12700K, i5-12600K, & 12400



When you go 4K...
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And only lose 7.5% FPS (12400) but that whole Intel system cost cheaper than 9800X3D CPU only itself doh.gif
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post Dec 2 2024, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(llk @ Dec 1 2024, 08:42 PM)
Done installation, just swapped out my i9 13900K & Asus Z790 ROG Maximus Hero, rest of the parts reuse back.
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Oh wow, not cheap, did you resell the previous hardware to recoup the cost?
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post Dec 2 2024, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Dec 2 2024, 02:36 PM)
dangggg.... dual chonky rad just for the cpu
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Not sure if thats an ideal arrangement as the lower rad is blowing hot air towards the intake of GPU fans. But it surely is a lot of cooling just for CPU alone.
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 9 2024, 11:33 PM)
That is what I am concern , motherboard are too expensive now.AM4 is outdated too.
Which of suggestion for brand and model for AM5 ? exclude MSI ,
Asrock and Gigabyte cheaper ?

babylon52281 sorry , I think of skipping Intel 1700 , still deciding about AM5 motherboard , any suggestion too?
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Refer this post
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110894243
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Dec 10 2024, 05:27 PM)
9800x3d now in Malaysia ard rm3k ; or rm4k bundle with x870 mobo

Worth it ?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110894243
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 11 2024, 12:51 AM)
This ASRock model is not in Malaysia
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*Shockers* The best of cheap budget mobos able to handle the full range of Ryzens and its not in our market ?!
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-b650-motherboards/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock...est-good-enough

What are we? Too filthy rich to even consider this cheap humble but mighty board that can punch above its price?

At least still got affordable Pro-RS here but I imagine the cheaper HDV mobo will make AM5 systems more reasonably priced here
https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/24015679845

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post Dec 12 2024, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 12 2024, 08:27 AM)
That MSI B650M Gaming WiFi is still fine for 9600X / 9700X.  wink.gif
Don't worry too much for 65W parts.
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Its VRM will be limited if next time want to upgrade with 120W CPUS like X3Ds tho.
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:48 AM

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Here is a crazy detailed masterlist of AM5 mobos for those who wants to go indepth into exactly what features & functions they want
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQH...it?usp=drivesdk
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post Dec 12 2024, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 12 2024, 09:49 AM)
That is the price to pay. For those having fund for more expensive CPU should not have concern for paying extra RM200 more for better board.  biggrin.gif
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Need to balance the build. If intend to upgrade CPU later in future, for now maybe need to sacrifice CPU abit by going lower 7500F/7600 to get a better mobo that can support future X3D CPUS.
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post Dec 13 2024, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 12 2024, 10:50 PM)
Yup sad right?

That time I was handling ASRock and really wanted to bring that model in but nope, due to market conditions and all that model was ignored in favor of other models.
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Asrock distro doing a Jensen? Only 1 decent budget board (ProRS) while loading up with mid-high tiers (lightning, riptide, nova, taichi) forcing people to pay more that they really need if they want decent mobo that can support X3D. I think even steel legend oso not widely sold (upwards of RM 1k still not budget level lor).

Its these kinda decisions that make AM5 still a T15 build compare to Intel/ AM4.
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post Dec 13 2024, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 13 2024, 01:22 AM)
Don't know. I left more than a year ago.

Had some good ones, had many nonsense as well.

It's not as simple as one thinks.
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I would say Asrock in AM4 era had some shit ones but so far in AM5 era most of their mobos are pretty solid (except the bare most cheapest of all A620) the problem is decent budget boards arent coming while spamming the more expensive ones. Its what I see available in the market.
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post Dec 15 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Dec 15 2024, 11:02 AM)
Been googling around on 4k resolution gaming, will upgrading from 5900X to 9800X3D/9900X3D will provide any increment?
Read that the 1% low has a good gained and eliminate alot of micro stuttering.

Else will just stick to upgrading GPU for now until AM6 arrive.
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Not unless you have 4090 / upcoming 5090. At 4K its more GPU dependent than CPU. A better CPU will help in 1% lows but not overall FPS if the GPU is ady limited.
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post Dec 15 2024, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 15 2024, 11:28 AM)
Instead of them bundling 9800x3d with a mobo, do you think they would entertain those who want the newest x3d with a 5090? laugh.gif
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Unlikely, bundle deals are usually from brands ie AMD, so they would push for AMD CPU with AMD based mobo. Even bundling with AMD GPU is rare.
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post Dec 27 2024, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(llk @ Dec 26 2024, 10:43 PM)
I am quite impressed with the Ryzen 9800X3D, when it comes to its power consumption and temperature during gaming.

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Gaming dont really stress the CPU as much as you might think unless theres CPU bottleneck. Try Cinebench for 30mins run and check back. Or better yet Prime95 to really know how much you can push it.
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post Dec 27 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 27 2024, 11:30 AM)
over stress / extreme overclock can burn the cpu..
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Running CPU to 100% isnt overstress or OCing at all and wont harm CPU. If its true, new server & workstations would have died every week dy.
As long as cooling is sufficient to keep CPU from hitting TJMAX and voltage & power limits are within spec (no 13/14Gen shenanigan), there are no moving parts inside for it to fail.
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post Dec 29 2024, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 29 2024, 08:09 PM)
Yes, it is 4000D. I'm using with the filter installed. If no filter, the dust will be much worse.
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Like my PC in my room which is a dust magnet, even with builtin filter smaller dust particles still collects inside due to other holes ie PCIE slot covers. So what I did is add more front filters and filter mesh cover the other holes around

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109256054
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post Dec 30 2024, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 30 2024, 07:27 AM)
dust should not enter at pcie slot covers.
u need to have positive air pressure in the case. all intake must be filtered. the air from the front must be strong enough to be pushed all the way to the back, coming out from pcie slot covers.

test all openings with a tissue. if the tissue sticks, you need to stronger fan intake.
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With 2x 140mm & 1x 120mm blowing in and only 1x 120mm going out, conlanfirm its positive pressure kawkaw and all casing panels fit tight. Spacing underneath chassis is walled by foam sponge to give filtered air into the PSU so even dust there is not blowing into the case.

Just my room is extra dusty that smaller particles will still get thru where theres holes around.
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post Jan 7 2025, 10:07 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/330544/amd-laun...with-3d-v-cache

Confirmed 9900x3rd is "Meh" while only 9950x3d would be the next gaming CPU king. Thanks to Intel failure to compete, AMD took their foot off the pedal and did not give dual X3d cache on both CCD as rumoured. Sucks...
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post Jan 24 2025, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jan 23 2025, 01:58 PM)
Those looking for 9800x3d can get now via mb bundle from All IT .. Shopee & Lazada..

Still cheaper than direct order from Amazon (RM3.2k) ... all it bundle with X870 ard RM4.3k.. ready stock

i ordered ystd and today have received
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That CPU & mobo alone cost as much as my 2022 midrange PC... inc a scalper time 3060Ti! sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2025, 10:49 AM

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If need to bundle mobo everywhere, then those who got into AM5 early wanting to upgrade are f*cked.

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