AMD is finally acknowledging the USB drop out issues on x570/b550 - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/lnmet...ith_500_series/

Better late than never I guess.

you dont understand that when agesa changes the electrical tolerance level, sensing etc. board design cannot accommodate this. ram fae has to retune dram sensing.

thats y when b550 was launched, aib could fix new design to accommodate the agesa at that time which is why zen 3000 cpu worked superbly with it. 

its also the reason why x570 dark is the best mobo.

anyway like you said anyone can complain
but few understand the issue hence they dont understand the complaint

Its not about that. Majority of people buy these new chips 5600x 5800x 5900x as well as 10600 10700 10850 10900K for gaming.

The market should cater the majority of users who want to buy something plug and play and game worry-free.
Yes, intel is mature. Ryzen also 3rd gen already cannot be immature la. Consider mature finale version bec they moving to next architecture.

Then u have seisohai youtubers who are paid reviewers giving sohai benchmarks, fanboy or biased comments which lean majority of users to buy zen3 without telling the bad,the skewed tests. And majority 5900x users also run it at stock. Bec is still general population not bonchis and tristanxes.

Strange, recently my 5950X start to randomly blue screen with WHEA.

But there is nothing at event viewer on which WHEA code (18 nor 19).

Just a bugcheck and a large Memory.DUMP

The random blue screen with WHEA (no error code) seems to happen on idle only.

Think I just discovered the reason the random blue screen and sometime reboot without bluescreen.
I overloaded my PSU.
I forgot I replugged my GTX 970 back into 5950x mainboard.......and the psu is Seasonic M12 520W PSU.....
Gotta purchase proper PSU next time. For now, 95W eco mode.
Still need to figure out what is going on the voltage.
Anyone with Zen 3 CPU here can check their CPU Core Voltage (SVI2 TFN) using HWinfo and mainboard model?
I wonder if this is specific to Zen 3. 

FYI, I did all the fine tunings on my OS and cpu which made my ryzen idle at 7C above ambient but it is no where near to what intel can achieve out of the box. Just admit it. ryzen’s boosting algorithm is terribly inefficient and has nothing to do with which OS is being used.

If you work as a lab instrument tester, I work as an analyst who deals with win server and linux on a daily basis on operations critical systems and data warehouse. Whose job is also to test on server reliability. that’s why I sorta able to tell in-depth and point out some of AMD’s flaws and why it is fast because I know about machine architecture. If you think AMD is smooth on linux, you’re terribly naive lolol.

there’s nothing to be biased about here. when it has a problem, it has a problem no point defending. if you keep defending then AMD will not be bothered to solve any of their issues.. Just like it takes more than 1 year for AMD to acknowledge the USB dropping off problems which is also related to NVME and sata drive data packets gone missing/corrupt in high read/write server scenario.

So now we should voice out on the high idle temps and over aggressive and inefficient clock stepping so that AMD would solve this problem that had been around since zen+

and no, you’d be surprise how many more are using windows for mission critical stuff than other OS. that’s why billgates is so rich. it’s more to do on the failover procedures than OS being used. And of course... not windows 10 lol.

blue screen related to ram oc are totally random, there is no fixed error message, each time is different

Some folks here had their points on what was wrong with AMD beginning with Zen 2 and now Zen 3. Bonchi and gang is not wrong for what they raised. But you keep harping on it over and over and over again, bitter A F, it gets tiring for the rest of us. You throw shade at the AMD fanboys, defending AMD blindly. But your constant hating has put you on the other extreme end of that spectrum now.

Im thinking an i9 10900k + a decent z590, if someone can let me know how much is the power utilization for normal use (watching youtube, music etc)

targon and Jedi got 10900K. Maybe cstkl1 too.

Just to update.. seems after upgrade to latest bios for MSI x570 tomahawk WiFi ; I don't get random BSOD

so all these while it's not cpu issue.. most ppl complaint whea error and rma the CPU... But most likely it is because driver issue on AGESA

since there's still no news on the USB fix.

yeap.. shittiest part right now. Glad I got my gpu before all the problems. Although if building a 10th gen intel rig still got some flexibility. 11th gen also suffer the same fate as ryzens.  (except the waste of sand 11700K can be found everywhere)

Any first hand experiences with B450 ITX boards? Building a SFF rig mostly for Davinci Resolve, and on a tight budget (since it's not meant for me). I currently have a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro ITX, but I'm wondering if selling that and going for a B450 board can save money without running into a host of issues in the process. CPU that'll be paired with it is a 3700X.

So....um.....I caved in and bought the following:
AMD RYZEN 9 5950X
ASUS  X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

Total damage RM6300

With Dark Hero?

Hmm.....then I shall stick with AMD own power plan for Zen2.
On the other hand, today someone at OCN posted :

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-...7#post-28791233
https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-...7#post-28791267
Wonder how true is this?

Stacked chips.... Launch prime, load CPU and L3.... gonna be a fire hazard lolol. Could potentially be their "desperate measure" against intel's finally able to get out of 14nm. Maybe alderlake will still be behind. But if intel continue to optimize their 10nm like their 14nm, things will be interesting. The competition finally begins.

The high idle and higher power consumption is often a topic here actually. even just a few post above people are discussing this and they use power plans to dial down the usage at the expense of performance for lower idle temps and consumption, and change the power plan accordingly by usage.

Well you dont normally see this in reviews because all they do is max out benchmark and get the max results. They never record data like power consumption over 10 hours of browsing or music playback and gaming. However from AMD users especially some of them here who checks their hwinfo logs, that is what they noticed including myself. I remember my 3600 will go max all core 4.0ghz hitting 80C for just playing some flac audio files through foobar2K with some plugins... had to compromise by converting all my files to ALAC and play through itunes lol