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 Car Tint Advise Needed, RayTech, VKool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....

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post Jan 6 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Intel@Atom @ Jan 5 2012, 06:04 PM)
hi all,
wanna ask is the sport light test on tint accurate or not? i just tinted with sun-gard and during sport light test, i dont feel any heat at all but when driving back my car, found that heat is still feel-able.

is this normal? maybe the spotlight doesn;t provide as much as the sunlight? thx
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Ask the guys to bring a piece underneath the sun and gauge from there with ur hand or ur entire arm. The spotlight is not accurate enough. The weather increased at least 1-2C in the noon these days. You need at least a 50% TSER to shield the heat. 64% would be the best but the cost is high. You pay for what you get.

Tint is long term usage. U use it everyday, especially to people who do sales. Invest in a better tint.

I'm on Huper Optik C40 side and front, C30 on back. Consider ok, but I would prefer higher TSER to 64%. My TSER is already on 55% +-. But it still beats RM800 no brand tint anytime. Non-JPJ compliance but no issue with RB.

http://www.huperoptik.com/en/smart/

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post Jan 6 2012, 01:45 PM

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I just changed my car windscreen to Vkool Elite, it is so called the most premium one but i found some cons bout it:
- Too bright ( i think the light penetration % is too high)
- GPS unable to get signal/ lock satelite

On the other hand, my car aircond do cool down faster.
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post Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM

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Hi,all i just tinted my car with Llumar-Diamond 6 at Puchong.

i found that it is better that 3M,Llumar have a total solar energy rejected and GPS friendly.

I very satisfied with Llumar-Diamand 6, which is the best ever i had tinted


This post has been edited by Dream_car: Jan 9 2012, 11:09 AM
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post Jan 6 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Jan 6 2012, 01:44 PM)
Ask the guys to bring a piece underneath the sun and gauge from there with ur hand or ur entire arm. The spotlight is not accurate enough. The weather increased at least 1-2C in the noon these days. You need at least a 50% TSER to shield the heat. 64% would be the best but the cost is high. You pay for what you get.

Tint is long term usage. U use it everyday, especially to people who do sales. Invest in a better tint.

I'm on Huper Optik C40 side and front, C30 on back. Consider ok, but I would prefer higher TSER to 64%. My TSER is already on 55% +-. But it still beats RM800 no brand tint anytime. Non-JPJ compliance but no issue with RB.

http://www.huperoptik.com/en/smart/
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I am using Huper Optik Sech 60 for front and Ceramic 40 for the side & back. Very effective rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(aKatoRA @ Jan 6 2012, 01:45 PM)
I just changed my car windscreen to Vkool Elite, it is so called the most premium one but i found some cons bout it:
- Too bright ( i think the light penetration % is too high)
- GPS unable to get signal/ lock satelite

On the other hand, my car aircond do cool down faster.
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QUOTE(Dream_car @ Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hi,all i just tinted my car with Llumar-Diamond 6 at Puchong.

i found that it is better that 3M,Llumar have a total solar energy rejected and GPS friendly.

I very satisfied with Llumar-Diamand 6, which is the best ever i had tinted

P/S: the sale girl told me Llumar had take over the Vkool factory (Elite) and some more thier film are make at china.

i don't know is true or not.
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Both the tint mentioned is due to the metal that is used in the film that is reflective, hence it's harder for GPS and Smartag to go through. It will get worse over time as the film is oxidized and loses it's efficiency. All tint loses efficiency over time. As long as you feel that it is not performing up to the specifications anymore, you can choose to ask for a replacement. Tint is known to oxidize after 5 years.

I initially wanted to go with Llumar but the specificiation sheet from Tint Auto is contradicting with Llumar USA's specification. Further adding into the confusion was the naming convention that Tint Auto gave on the film which is not stated in the Llumar's official website. From the Diamond 6 spec that you have mentioned I found the following specs given by Tint Auto website:

VLT 63%
TSER 59%
IR Rejected 97%
UV Rejected 99%
Break Strength 165 lb/inch
Tensile Strength 33,100 lb/inch2
Puncture Strength 125 lb
Thickness 6 mil (150 micron)
Warranty 10 Years
Color Green

As it is a 6 mil, it is considered a security film and hence it's easier to match on the spec sheet in Llumar's official site. Attached is the Llumar spec data for Global (non US and Canada) which I believe using the film name AIR65GNSRPS6 (6 mil green). They do not mentioned the IR rejection rate as well. This is the closest match which I believe is the tint film that is marketed as Diamond 6 here.

Spec sheet is available here. http://www.llumar.com/pdf/en/LLumarAutoSpecsGlobal.pdf

VLT 63%
TSER 43%
Visible Light Refelcted 8%
UV Rejected 99%

I view this as a serious misinformation provided by the distributor and there is no correction for a long time. We are talking about a 15% difference in TSER! That is a huge difference on the Total Solar Efficiency rate. If they are honourable on the 10 year warranty, I believe you can ask for a tint change after the tint is oxidized.


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post Jan 7 2012, 11:28 AM

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can anyone suggest me a shop that give reasonable price in penang for only front windscreen ? its old saga btw..
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post Jan 7 2012, 12:25 PM

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dear experts/sifus,

can i ask abt those rm 200-300 tintings that are bandied around....

are these really good tints? with UV n security features?

at the same time, people at Lummar n 3M are claiming those are cheats n etc....

say, for a new Civic, would it be prudent to go for these expensive tints or the RM 200-300 would suffice?

kindly advice,.,,,
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QUOTE(kienu @ Jan 7 2012, 01:25 PM)
dear experts/sifus,

can i ask abt those rm 200-300 tintings that are bandied around....

are these really good tints? with UV n security features?

at the same time, people at Lummar n 3M are claiming those are cheats n etc....

say, for a new Civic, would it be prudent to go for these expensive tints or the RM 200-300 would suffice?

kindly advice,.,,,
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This is from my personal experience of using RM700 tint on one car while on the other was using the RM1.5k tint. Can really feel the difference especially under the hot sun in the afternoon. Since you are planning on having tinting on a 100+k car, might as well go for the better tint.
Best that you test them out yourself before you decides. Mind you, once you tinted, it is going to be costly and damaging to remove & replace the tint.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 6 2012, 03:05 PM)
I am using Huper Optik Sech 60 for front and Ceramic 40 for the side & back. Very effective  rclxm9.gif
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just installed ceramic 40 on my replaced windscreen. great heat resistance ! smile.gif

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post Jan 9 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 9 2012, 11:52 AM)
just installed ceramic 40 on my replaced windscreen. great heat resistance ! smile.gif
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Ceramic 40 on front windscreen or rear?
If front, does HO give the warranty against JPJ summons?
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 9 2012, 11:18 AM)
Ceramic 40 on front windscreen or rear?
If front, does HO give the warranty against JPJ summons?
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No warranty bro. Dare to put until C40 should be ready to eat saman already. But so far C40 can lepas no problem cos i'm using it also all rounder. No issues at all probably i don't go clubbing anymore so not much roadblocks i encounter.

Actually C40 not dark at all. Can see through in the noon and night as well from the outside. My tint shop pao the C40 if kena saman, but change any side to a darker one, they don't cover anymore.

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I did C60 for front and C40 for the rest. The shop cover saman.
Luckily I opted for C40 as advise by the shop... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Dream_car @ Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hi,all i just tinted my car with Llumar-Diamond 6 at Puchong.

i found that it is better that 3M,Llumar have a total solar energy rejected and GPS friendly.

I very satisfied with Llumar-Diamand 6, which is the best ever i had tinted
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I was using Llumar Diamond 6 for 4 years until I sold my ride last year.
Quite expensive if compared to those house brands.
I believed quality and price wise they are on par with 3M, VKool and HO.
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post Jan 14 2012, 04:33 PM

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now searching tint for my fiesta..
xpress cool at JB quote me rm580 (with voucher worth 200).. to total is 780.
VLT 50%
heat rejection 50%
security film
other i dont remember

worth or not? hahaaa
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QUOTE(pakutekan @ Jan 14 2012, 05:33 PM)
now searching tint for my fiesta..
xpress cool at JB quote me rm580 (with voucher worth 200).. to total is 780.
VLT 50% 
heat rejection 50%
security film
other i dont remember

worth or not? hahaaa
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Let's establish on why do you intend to have the tinting? Mostly, the reason is for the heat rejection, etc.
The following parameters are normally used in selecting the tint

VLT = Visible Light Transmission. This indicates amount of light that can penetrate through the tint. The lower, the darker the tint.
(This is also govern by JPJ's regulation)
UVR = Ultra Violet Rejection. Higher is better.
IRR = Infra Red Rejection. Higher is better, but may effect your SmartTag & GPS.
TSER = Total Solar Energy Rejected. The higher the better.

So, if your intention is to have a cooler car interior, and budget permits, better to get higher heat rejection tints.
IMHO, heat rejection of 50% is too low for comfort. Should go for at least TSER of 60% and above.
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thanks kelvyn..
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post Jan 14 2012, 10:31 PM

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a Llumar sales person told me Huper Optik's 6mil security film is not under HO, but another brand, the name i forgot.

At last i chose Llumar T4-50 with AVS for FWS, RM1880. A bit over budget but the color of film is nice, still no chance to test its performance since everyday is so cloudy.

On the other hand, HO quoted me rm1400 for C70(Front & Back) + 6mil security(side).
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is Llumar Crystal 6 worth it? i asked for my new mpv, and the shop in Pg quoting me 2.7k for whole car. need advise from all u experts. smile.gif what is the price in KL area?

tks in advance
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post Jan 15 2012, 10:29 AM

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for MYVI any tint is good? i feel dam hot esp during noon time. budget below 500 if possible
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post Jan 15 2012, 12:03 PM

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Dear All brother how about cool world, how u all think about this?

For Our RhinePro XD Series is a good quality tint also. smile.gif

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