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Ramjade
post Jul 27 2017, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jul 27 2017, 03:34 PM)
True..But maybe wana buy ASW  fund at the counter after the dividend day..

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Now repeat the process for ASW and AS1M
Ramjade
post Jul 27 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jul 27 2017, 03:54 PM)
Ok boss smile.gif
But seems hard to top up afterwards..
Can't even send out at last step of transaction..
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What I meant is go open ASW and AS1M
Ramjade
post Jul 27 2017, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jul 27 2017, 04:53 PM)
Sorry just want to confirm.

I need to go back counter to open up another 2 funds right?  I can't do that online isn't it since I oli able to open up ASM just now.

And to top up via portal, I can't click on hantar button at the last step of transaction. Is that normal?
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That's right. That's why ask you to go open ASW and AS1M.

Normal. Drop ASNB an email. Saying you cannot "hantar". Give them your email, phone no which you register for TAC, ASNB account no.

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 27 2017, 05:12 PM)
Yes, initial investment need to open via physical branch... cant buy via portal.

last step of transaction is FXP login into your online banking account n click pay, not in your ASNB portal.

from initial step to the step where u will know whether ur top up is available or not is after the SMS TAC !

its either said insufficient fund or proceed to payment.
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I think he/she means when registering online. You need to click hantar.

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Ramjade
post Jul 28 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(mattalex @ Jul 28 2017, 12:17 PM)
I have seen some posts here mentioning best time to buy the funds, - end of month, start of month, after dividends, etc. but not very clear. Appreciate if someone can clarify this. I am interested in availability of funds rather than maximizing dividends. Thanks.
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Maximising dividend - every end of the month
Availability of units
- after dividend guaranteed got
- near holiday/school reopen maybe got
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post Jul 28 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jinglexo @ Jul 28 2017, 07:42 PM)
Sorry if my question sounds stupid. How much normally u all top up? Assume I'm at age 30 how much I need to have right now in ASIM to have comfortable retirement?
Just started this
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Min amount to topup = RM1 (for counter), RM100 (for online).
It depends. Everyone's lifestyle is different. If you need RM1000/month to survive, then you need only RM200k (RM12k/0.06 = RM200k)

RM5000 means RM1M.

Let's not forget that your RM5000 may be worthless down 20 years down the road (increase in cost of living > amanah saham's return). devil.gif Is it possible? Yes as we are speaking cost of living is increasing faster than amanah saham. Last time, no.

Also, money put into amanah saham can be counted as opportunity loss. Eg. KGF give you 10%p.a but putting in amanah saham give you only 6%p.a That's 4%p.a opportunity loss.

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Jul 28 2017, 08:10 PM)
Mind asking.

Whats KGF?
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Kenanga Growth fund. Is an example of unit trust which beats amanah saham hands down annually (over 3-10 years average).

Both Kenanga Growth fund and amanah saham invest in bursa saham. The only difference is the fixed price funds offer you a false sense of security where one cannot lose money at the cost of returns devil.gif
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post Jul 28 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jinglexo @ Jul 28 2017, 09:42 PM)
Amanah Saham fixed price fund can lose money? I don't really understand this part
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Come. I give you example.
Eg. You put into fixed price fund for 3 years. You get about 18% return (let's make it simple at 6%)
Consider the same money you put into KGF which give you average 10%p.a, after 3 years, you will get 30%.

That's 12% money loss. That's how investing in amanah saham fixed price fund make one "lose money". That's opportunity cost.

So a RM10k will incur a "RM1200 loss" with amanah saham when in actual fact, you could have get RM3000.
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post Jul 28 2017, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jul 28 2017, 11:45 PM)
too shallow
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You're welcome to expand/deepen it. devil.gif

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post Jul 29 2017, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(RNM @ Jul 29 2017, 12:23 AM)
I am 23 now..  Does,  i am late to invest?
Do I need agent to open ASB? Or.. Just go to POS office?
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If ASB is very easy. Just walk into any of the banks (Cimb, Maybank, RHB, affin, ambank), post office, ASNB branch and you are good to go.
If other thing than ASB and ASB2 well good luck. Need to be really patient.

People nowadays are getting younger and younger... shakehead.gif shocking.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 29 2017, 08:52 AM)
At least our FP have years and years of track record that is really really stable. They gone thru crisis without changing the NAV and maintain 6%.
I think by far this is the safest FP in MY.
This is one of the reason why FP still selling so hot. It's a little bit low. But no need keep monitoring market and worry all the speculation.

But for sure it's recommended not only rely on this. This can act as safety net. A really good net.
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Actually it's one of it's kind. Only available in malaysia. No other country have this kind of scheme.

If govt give you something, use it. I agree. It's a good safety net. For me now, it's a parking place while waiting for 20-30% discount devil.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 29 2017, 10:01 AM)
my esther damn lazy = = low than fp
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Is not even 1 year yet. So chill. Results are within expectations.
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post Jul 29 2017, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 29 2017, 06:15 PM)
What are u guys talking about?
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Ancient is talking that affin hwnag select bond fund is not performing as good as amanah saham. But it's only about half a year. So 4%+ within half a year is more or less on tract to 6%+ a year
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post Jul 29 2017, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jinglexo @ Jul 29 2017, 07:14 PM)
Sifu can just buy kenanga growth fund without buying others? Will lose money in long term?
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Can. But if malaysia bursa drop and economy no good. KGF also drop and performance wise not.so good.
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post Jul 29 2017, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(neo3koolio @ Jul 29 2017, 08:56 PM)
anyone care to guide kenanga growth fund how to venture into this? using prs scheme?..apologies if asked in the wrong forum
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You can buy using FSM MY
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post Jul 30 2017, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Jul 29 2017, 10:41 PM)
Just curious total how much u guys have invested in amanah saham? 1k,10k,100k or more than 1m?
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Up to individual. SOme have only RM100 (the min amount inside), some have few million sitting inside
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post Jul 30 2017, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Jul 30 2017, 07:59 AM)
Why there will be 20-30% discount? What investment you are waiting for?
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Waiting for min 10% p.a discount from my stocks + getting best bank for buck for my unit trust.
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post Jul 30 2017, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 30 2017, 08:35 AM)
What is  d max period u will wait?
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There's no dead line. So what's the rush? After all, once I get my min 10% dividend, I will continue to receive my 10% dividend continously until I decide to sell it off.

Same wirh unit trust.
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post Jul 30 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jul 30 2017, 10:58 AM)
We are unable to top up on Sunday?
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The myASNB Portal operational hours

i.You can access to your myASNB Portal account information 24 hours a day, 7 times a week.

ii.However, you are only allowed to perform transactions for fixed price funds from Sunday – Friday (7am to 6.30pm) and variable price funds from Sunday – Friday (7am-4pm) only. Additional investment not available on Saturday and on Public Holidays.

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Operating hours
Fixed Priced Funds :

07:00 AM to 06:30 PM local time, Sunday to Friday excluding public holidays


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With no more TAC, cannot spam TAC sad.gif
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post Aug 1 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 1 2017, 10:41 AM)
Yeah,... I think, by far,... if I am to invest in MY, I will still go for PNB Fixed Price Funds,... for diversifying into the MYR,.... let PNB do the investing out there for me,... it's proven.
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Actually better funds exist than ASNB products. (Kenanga Growth Fund proven to beat ASNB over 10 years plus at average returns of >10%p.a)

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