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rjb123
post Jan 31 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Vape On @ Jan 31 2017, 09:50 PM)
100% kfc is also keto diet.

If you can find fried chicken  then thats your meal
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Not really, the batter probably has enough carbs in it to stop you going into ketosis
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post Feb 1 2017, 01:42 AM

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Keto eating out in kl.

BAK kut teh no rice
Yong tau foo no noodles
Curry pigskin n fishballs
Grilled chicken from jusco nandos Kenny
Any non deep fried meat dishes without rice
Satay without sauce n rice

No sweet drinks of any kind.

But difficult to cut out 100 sweets...So can't get in keto..Even 2 teaspoon sugar will stop ketosis.
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post Feb 1 2017, 10:51 AM

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hi bro.. do u take a lot of sugar daily before like in ur drinks or food? other than u have a family history with diabetes
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post Feb 1 2017, 12:07 PM

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ts, how r u now?

did u seek 2nd opinion from other doctors?

u can always go to gov clinic kesihatan, there are always got doctor for this common matter to give u another opinion, since gov doc are not earning by selling more medicine to u, u can get a neutral advise.
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post Feb 9 2017, 01:20 PM

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Dear all, thanks for you info but I have a problem here.

I always don't have time for breakfast and I am trying ketogenic diet. But I really don't have the time to cook in the morning and nothing to eat in the morning.

Like today I had metformin at 10am. I had lunch at 12pm. Now I dunno I wanna eat another dose of metformin right now.

I know I should eat with meal, but I don't want to eat roti.

Please advise. It is 1.19pm now. Should I pop another dosage of 850mg metformin right now?

Tomorrow onwards, should I just skip morning and eat right after lunch?
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post Feb 9 2017, 01:50 PM

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Why can't u eat yr metformin with meals? If u only eat by 12 pm, then take yr metformin at 12 pm.

Don't take metformin on empty stomach.

If you eat keto. Boil eggs. Keep in fridge for morning breakfast.
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post Feb 9 2017, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 9 2017, 01:50 PM)
Why can't u eat yr metformin with meals?  If u only eat by 12 pm, then take yr metformin at 12 pm.

Don't take metformin on empty stomach.

If you eat keto.  Boil eggs. Keep in fridge for morning breakfast.
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Hard boiled eggs keep in fridge?

Are u doing keto?
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post Feb 9 2017, 06:17 PM

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sorry to hear that..

btw, my father is a diabetic. It is true that the next generation of a diabetic will get higher chance of having diabetes too.

Here's some of the things good to know :

1. Diabetic does NOT mean must cut sugar COMPLETELY cause it will also have bad impact on you as our body still need sugar. However, not eating rice is a very good thing as actually our body can get so much better without rice (but not our wallet)

2. The key is not any drug at all but a regular exercise is proven to be the cheapest, healthiest drug for diabetics. However it is very difficult cause diabetic people tend to feel faster tired and therefore causing a lazy mood. Truth is, you are not getting less energy but you are just getting the lazy feeling.

3. I believe there is no cure for diabetes at all. My father tried almost everything. The sandal that can cure it, the red plant from papua, the gamat, nothing. So better not waste money for the "Diabetes curing gimmick" but instead, focus on controlling it so you dont get complications.

4. Take care of your teeth health cause my father lost 80% of his teeth by the age of 30 something. High sugar infused blood cause more damage to the teeth, so please brush your teeth and go for regular checkup with dentist.

5. Diabetes can also make you an impatient person and tend to get angry over small thing. Know this and control yourself.

6. Be very careful when eating multi vitamins. Vitamins are mostly drugs made available to the lazy people who cant control themselves to eat healthy. It is dangerous but nobody will tell you that because it is generating money.



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post Feb 9 2017, 06:23 PM

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Thats because his diabetes is too high...no sugar...not moderate sugar.
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post Feb 10 2017, 12:24 PM

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Hi TS, Sorry to hear your predicaments. I have similar experience so maybe it can help.

My Diabetes started when I was 40. My doctor prescribed Metformin 850mg x2 daily at first then move to x3 daily. I had similar problems like you. Right after starting it I had to endure diarrhea multiple times daily and the timing would be totally at awkward moments; driving to work or from work, during meetings, when talking to clients, playing with my kids etc. Public transport was totally out of question. I also felt weak and lethargic all the time. Suffice to say that I had to be prepared to shit anytime of the day in my pants. Few months later my social life and work performance went down drastically.

So it happens that I report directly to the directors of my company and since my performance had dropped drastically, the chairman/big boss called me up to talk. Long story short he gave me some direct guidance as he is also diabetic for 30years but totally in control. As he also owns few pharma companies, pharmacy outlets and cares for his staffs, I followed his advice and till today(few years later), my diabetes is under control. Following are his guidelines that I follow till now.

1) Medication dosage: Metformin 850mg 2 or 3 times daily will radically affect your bowel movement. Since its very high dosage at one time go, your bowel movement goes wild. What I did was change to Metformin/Diabetmin Retard (850mg ER-Extended/Slow Release, also Hovid). This helps release the active compounds slowly for 8-10hours (approx.) and significantly reduces adverse bowel movement. At first I did have occasional 'outbursts' but it was reduced few weeks later and took another few months for my bowel to have only small cases/problems occasionally. Metformin is also known to not cause kidney damage unlike other drugs and some studies says it has anti cancer effects.

2) Medication timing: I take one Metformin Retard right after breakfast and one right after dinner (2 tablets daily). I make sure the gap between the breakfast and dinner does not exceed a 10hours gap. You must take a meal before Metformin as taking it on empty stomach gives it a chance to adversely affect your bowel movement. No need to be too strict on meal intake timing but a breakfast is a must. Usually 1 to 3 hours after taking the medication, I will still need to go toilet but I will have ample of 'warning' time from my bowels. sweat.gif

3) Supplements: Your body feels weak because Metformin decreases vitamin B12 absorption so you have to take vitamin B12 supplements. I take Mecobalamin (a form of vitB12) which also helps in preventing peripheral nerve damage, 3 times daily before meal (do not take together with Metformin). This will slowly reduce your fatigue levels. I also take multivitamins but on a occasional basis (don't want to damage kidneys or liver).

4) Food restrictions: This is the hardest part cry.gif You CANNOT take any forms of sugars or carbohydrates (rice, any form of noodles, roti canai etc). I stopped taking them gradually in a timeframe of few weeks. I now only take brown rice, durum wheat noodles/spaghetti, capati and stevia for teh-o/drinks. I do occasionally indulge in sweet fruits, chocolate, ice cream, potatoes, milo-o etc but on a very small scale and in a big timeframe gap (few weeks once). Vegetables and meats are your new best friends.

5) Exercise: I was already doing walking, cycling and gardening so I just increase my activity time. I lost about 10kg in past few years, not much I know but it did help me getting a more 'lighter' and energetic feel with my body.

6) Self monitoring: I have a simple glucose test/reader for my own monitoring. This can help you in your control. I do a HbA1c test every 6months to monitor my overall control but I did it every 3-4monts when I first started.

So hope my experience helps out. My level is now below 6.0mmol/l consistently (fasting). Please do consult your Dr before changing your medications though. Diabetes is all about control. If you control it, you can live actively until well over 80 like my big boss. Best of luck TS thumbsup.gif


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post Feb 10 2017, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Jan 29 2017, 05:00 PM)
I'm a diabetic at age 33. It has been 7yrs now.

To answer some of your question.

Type 2 - You are able to induce natural insulin from your pancreas with medication.
Type 1 - pancreas totally gone and you need to inject insulin daily.

metformin is a drug to induce (force produce) natural insulin from your pancreas. You intolerant to metformin probably due to substandard med prescribed by the doc. Buy metformin from Glucophage. This is the original manufacturer. If that does not work, ask the doc about diamicron.

Facts. You will be taking this until your pancreas eventually fails. Then you need to start taking insulin jabs. If you don't control your sugar level, your kidney will eventually fail and you will have to undergo dialysis every other day. With proper control (damn f**king hard I tell you), you will have a long normal life.
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Pancreas failure can lead to kidney failure?

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post Feb 10 2017, 08:05 PM


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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Feb 10 2017, 05:15 PM)
Pancreas failure can lead to kidney failure?
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uncontrolled diabetes mellitus leads to kidney failure ( one of the complication of diabetes)
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post Feb 12 2017, 08:20 AM


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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 01:23 AM)

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stop spreading rubbish hoax
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post Feb 12 2017, 09:21 AM


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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 08:42 AM)
How you know it is rubbish? Have you try ?
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DR. TONY ALMEIDA
( Bombay Kidney Speciality expert )

the person doesn't exist.

and even so, all that "doctor" has is assuming it is true, one single case as a story.
ONE case. even if it is true, no medical professional would take that ONE case and apply it to everyone.

then comes the mechanism. in what way ( read HOW) can that method work? what's the pathophysiology that the "cure" affects?

have you fact check before posting?
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post Feb 12 2017, 11:43 AM


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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 10:29 AM)
I just want to help. No harm trying as the ingredients are natural. Who knows its work with TS.
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salt and sugar are natural too. laugh.gif

duh.........stupid arguments belong in the bin.
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post Feb 12 2017, 12:05 PM

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How do u know u got diabetes in the first place?
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post Feb 12 2017, 12:11 PM


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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 11:51 AM)
Yes you can throw your stupid argument in the bin.
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which part of it is stupid?
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post Feb 12 2017, 12:23 PM

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Oh another one comes out with fantastic advice. Do t listen to your doctor! Don't take your medicine - try this magic recipe!



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