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SerioseCat
post Feb 12 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 01:23 AM)
You can try this
Finally Good News For Diabetes.

Hope you can forward the below message to help some one who needs this info...!

A woman (65) was diabetic for the last 20+ years
and
was taking insulin
twice a day.
She used the enclosed homemade medicine for a fortnight and
now she is absolutely free of diabetes and taking all her food as normal
including sweets.

The doctors have advised her to stop insulin and any other blood sugar controlling drugs.
I request you all please circulate the email below to as many people as you
can and let them take maximum benefit from it.

AS RECEIVED :
DR. TONY ALMEIDA
( Bombay Kidney Speciality expert )
made the extensive experiments with perseverance and patience and discovered a
successful treatment for diabetes.
Now a days a lot of people, old men &
women in particular suffer a lot due to Diabetes.

Ingredients:
1 - Wheat 100 gm
2 - Barley 100 gm
3 - Black Seeds (kalunji) 100 gm

Method of Preparation :
Put all the above ingredients in 5 cups of water.
Boil it for 10 minutes and put off the fire.
Allow it to cool down by itself.
When it has become cold, filter out the
seeds and preserve water in a glass jug or bottle.

How to use it?
Take one small cup of this water every day early morning when your stomach is empty.
Continue this for 7 days.
Next week repeat the same but on alternate days. With these 2 weeks of
treatment you will wonder to see that you have become normal and can eat
normal food without problem.

Note:
A request is to spread this to as many as possible so that others can
also take benefit out of it.

SINCE THESE ARE ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS,
TAKING THEM IS NOT HARMFUL.
SO THOSE WHO ARE SCEPTICAL ABOUT THIS TREATMENT
MAY STILL TRY IT WITHOUT ANY HARM.

Once again Thanks for sending this message for those who suffer ths deadly diabetes..!
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Okay, i will not rubbish this.

But if someone takes this plan and defaults insulin altogether, who will be accountable if it causes complications? You? Or Dr Tony Almeida from Bombay?

Keyword : accountability.

SerioseCat
post Feb 12 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(sniperhensem @ Feb 12 2017, 01:37 PM)
Who asked to you default  insulin? It can be taken together
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Good of you to clarify that.

Now that is accountability.

What about diet? So after 2 weeks of the above remedy, anyone in any case can take normal diet including sweets?

If not, what are the exclusions/conditions etc?

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post Feb 12 2017, 07:04 PM

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Hoax because barley n wheat both change to sugar in body.

Gum??
Blackseed?

If you want to try, take grounded flax seeds.
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post Feb 12 2017, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(JackBot @ Feb 10 2017, 12:24 PM)
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Hi, thank you very much.

I have stop consuming carbs and sugar and totally no brown rice.
but it seems like i am constipated all the time now. i shit like once a week now and always feel bloated.

i have appointment this coming Thursday and i will update u guys. my HbA1c before this was 11.
i think i can adapt to metformin now, but i just need to find the right way to eat it. because i always have no breakfast in the morning.

i think sometimes i just wait till lunch then only eat the 1st pill.
if my reading is good this thursday, i will try and ask the doctor to reduce it to 2 pills a day.

for now i just want to avoid carbs and sugar, don't spike my insulin levels...
and become more active.... i feel normal now but i always forget that i need to take medication. i keep on forgetting.
maybe because i am not used to taking meds everyday... i feel so sad when i type this.

can share with me, Mecobalamin is a brand?

and these few days.. especially at midnight, i feel nauseated. i don't know why. is it because i didn't eat carbs? is that why i can't shit and feel bloated all the time?
i tried having kopi o to trigger the bowel movement, but it doesn't work...

This post has been edited by JeweL_: Feb 12 2017, 11:17 PM
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post Feb 12 2017, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(JeweL_ @ Feb 12 2017, 11:15 PM)
Hi, thank you very much.

I have stop consuming carbs and sugar and totally no brown rice.
but it seems like i am constipated all the time now. i shit like once a week now and always feel bloated.

i have appointment this coming Thursday and i will update u guys. my HbA1c before this was 11.
i think i can adapt to metformin now, but i just need to find the right way to eat it. because i always have no breakfast in the morning.

i think sometimes i just wait till lunch then only eat the 1st pill.
if my reading is good this thursday, i will try and ask the doctor to reduce it to 2 pills a day.

for now i just want to avoid carbs and sugar, don't spike my insulin levels...
and become more active.... i feel normal now but i always forget that i need to take medication. i keep on forgetting.
maybe because i am not used to taking meds everyday... i feel so sad when i type this.

can share with me, Mecobalamin is a brand?

and these few days.. especially at midnight, i feel nauseated. i don't know why. is it because i didn't eat carbs? is that why i can't shit and feel bloated all the time?
i tried having kopi o to trigger the bowel movement, but it doesn't work...
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Eat some food that's high in fibre, probably why you can't shit


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post Feb 12 2017, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(JeweL_ @ Jan 20 2017, 12:24 PM)
a few days ago doctor say i am diabetic.
i am not shocked, because my family are diabetic.
my mum was diabetic when pregnant with me. - is it true because of this my chances of being diabetic is higher?
doctor say my sugar is very high. like super high. now go down already but still in 11 to 14 range.

at first when he found out high sugar, first few days he keep on inject insulin when my sugar is higher than 14.
so now no more insulin because below 14. so he gave me 850mg metformin 2 times a day for 2 weeks. then 3 times a day for like 2 to 3 months.

i know what i am getting into and well aware what is going to happen.
but i want to understand what is going on with my body right now. i read here and there but i cannot understand a few issues.

i am supposed to be type 2 diabetis. the doctor didn't explain much. asked the diabetic nurse to coach me.
she say because i whacked too much sugar, so now my pancreas is damaged. cannot produce insulin. so need to cut sugar and eat medicine.

i don't understand, so now is my pancreas damaged and cannot produce as much insulin or am i insulin resistant like what they wrote in medical website?
or cannot determine whether my pancreas is doing fine or just that my cells becoming insulin resistant? you just can't tell?

why am i prescribed metformin? what does it really do? from what i can recall it is supposed to make my cells more sensitive towards insulin and make me produce less excess insulin into my blood stream? i need an answer.

why do they need to treat me like a chronic patient?
"unfortunately, you have to live with it now"
"there's no cure, it is a chronic disease, but you still can control it with healthy lifestyle"

now the problem now is, that metformin is giving me terrible diarrhea.
it happens for a few days already. yesterday no pass motion. i don't know why, but today..

i shit in my pants on my way to work. i cannot control my bowel movements at all. when i need to go, i cannot tahan.
i take public transport to work. i already reached office today but took a cab back home because i shit in my pants.

this week i shit in my pants for 5th time already. now i am having problem getting to work.
i am thinking to quit my job now due to long travelling distance in the morning.

before i take this metformin, i don't feel sick at all. i can run and jump. but this medicine is making me sick and taking a lot of MC this week.
please share your experience with me because i am getting depressed right now.

seriously considering quitting my job and wear adult diapers.
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It is a chronic disease, basically lifelong disease. No way to cure it..but medications are there to MANAGE it. There is such a thing as a "healthy diabetic".

Gastrointestinal disturbances is a side effect of Metformin. You could discuss with your dr to switch you to other class of medicine..since its really distrupting your quality of life.

Metformin increases the sensitivity to insulin. There are tests to check you pancreas functions.. i think do a C Peptide test (consult dr) http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/c-peptide

There are also medications to make your pancreas increase insulin secretion/production. Quite young ...maybe pancreas cells still ok.

Uncontrolled blood sugar leads to many complications.. you can read it up too. Im not a Dr..so do consult one.

Hope it helps!
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post Feb 13 2017, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(JackBot @ Feb 10 2017, 12:24 PM)
Hi TS, Sorry to hear your predicaments. I have similar experience so maybe it can help.

My Diabetes started when I was 40. My doctor prescribed Metformin 850mg x2 daily at first then move to x3 daily. I had similar problems like you. Right after starting it I had to endure diarrhea multiple times daily and the timing would be totally at awkward moments; driving to work or from work, during meetings, when talking to clients, playing with my kids etc. Public transport was totally out of question. I also felt weak and lethargic all the time. Suffice to say that I had to be prepared to shit anytime of the day in my pants. Few months later my social life and work performance went down drastically.

So it happens that I report directly to the directors of my company and since my performance had dropped drastically, the chairman/big boss called me up to talk. Long story short he gave me some direct guidance as he is also diabetic for 30years but totally in control. As he also owns few pharma companies, pharmacy outlets and cares for his staffs, I followed his advice and till today(few years later), my diabetes is under control. Following are his guidelines that I follow till now.

1) Medication dosage: Metformin 850mg 2 or 3 times daily will radically affect your bowel movement. Since its very high dosage at one time go, your bowel movement goes wild. What I did was change to Metformin/Diabetmin Retard (850mg ER-Extended/Slow Release, also Hovid). This helps release the active compounds slowly for 8-10hours (approx.) and significantly reduces adverse bowel movement. At first I did have occasional 'outbursts' but it was reduced few weeks later and took another few months for my bowel to have only small cases/problems occasionally. Metformin is also known to not cause kidney damage unlike other drugs and some studies says it has anti cancer effects.

2) Medication timing: I take one Metformin Retard right after breakfast and one right after dinner (2 tablets daily). I make sure the gap between the breakfast and dinner does not exceed a 10hours gap. You must take a meal before Metformin as taking it on empty stomach gives it a chance to adversely affect your bowel movement. No need to be too strict on meal intake timing but a breakfast is a must. Usually 1 to 3 hours after taking the medication, I will still need to go toilet but I will have ample of 'warning' time from my bowels.  sweat.gif 

3) Supplements: Your body feels weak because Metformin decreases vitamin B12 absorption so you have to take vitamin B12 supplements. I take Mecobalamin (a form of vitB12) which also helps in preventing peripheral nerve damage, 3 times daily before meal (do not take together with Metformin). This will slowly reduce your fatigue levels. I also take multivitamins but on a occasional basis (don't want to damage kidneys or liver). 

4) Food restrictions: This is the hardest part  cry.gif  You CANNOT take any forms of sugars  or carbohydrates (rice, any form of noodles, roti canai etc). I stopped taking them gradually in a timeframe of few weeks. I now only take brown rice, durum wheat noodles/spaghetti, capati and stevia for teh-o/drinks. I do occasionally indulge in sweet fruits, chocolate, ice cream, potatoes, milo-o etc but on a very small scale and in a big timeframe gap (few weeks once). Vegetables and meats are your new best friends.

5) Exercise: I was already doing walking, cycling and gardening so I just increase my activity time. I lost about 10kg in past few years, not much I know but it did help me getting a more 'lighter' and energetic feel with my body.

6) Self monitoring: I have a simple glucose test/reader for my own monitoring. This can help you in your control. I do a HbA1c test every 6months to monitor my overall control but I did it every 3-4monts when I first started.

So hope my experience helps out. My level is now below 6.0mmol/l consistently (fasting). Please do consult your Dr before changing your medications though. Diabetes is all about control. If you control it, you can live actively until well over 80 like my big boss. Best of luck TS  :thumbsup:
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I think this post change my life. I'm not yet diagnosed as a diabetic but I will eat like you do and be as active as needed. Only in pain will make you realise things.
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post Feb 13 2017, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(JeweL_ @ Jan 20 2017, 01:03 PM)
i am considering keto diet..

trying now but hard to find food outside. everything need to prepare myself.
not easy for working adult. and OT days..
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Feb 13 2017, 01:04 AM)
I think this post change my life. I'm not yet diagnosed as a diabetic but I will eat like you do and be as active as needed. Only in pain will make you realise things.
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Oi try liu wei di huang wan

Seem effective for diabetes type 2

• Type II diabetes disease. In recent years, Chinese doctors have found that Liu Wei Di Huang Wan is very effective in treating diabetes type II disease. In multiple controlled human clinical trials, Liu Wei Di Huang Wan is reported consistently effective in over 90% patients, of which most have their blood sugar levels returned to the normal. The treatment is at least as good as the standard treatment with western medicines. When Liu Wei Di Huang Wan is used together with western medicines, it further enhances the efficacy of the western medicines.

Read up on it.

Walao u people are aro ignorant to think that diabetes is an incurable disease. In tcm , diabetes is easily fixed with liu wei di huang wan. Diabetes is categorised as kidney yin deficient. Once it is adressed the body will heal by itself.

Dont take so much fried and hot food such as coffee. Once the body overheats, it cant work properly resulting in disease.

Buy from reputable seller in taobao. Cheaper.



You can consider talking coconut oil as it reduces absorption of sugar. It a kind of ketonic lifestyle

This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Feb 13 2017, 02:09 AM
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post Feb 13 2017, 01:48 AM

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1. Diabetes Mellitus (DM)
Dr. Xi Yinping [1] used modified Liu Wei Di Huang Wan as an accessorial treatment
for 48 type 2 diabetes patients as the treatment group. The control group consisted of
44 patients. Both groups were treated with metformin 1.5 g/d. For the treatment
group, Liu Wei Di Huang Wan was added. The result came as follows: for the
treatment group there were 32 patients cured (66.7%), 9 patients effective (18.8%),
and 7 patients ineffective (14.6%); for the control group there were 10 patients cured
(22.7%), 16 patients effective (36.4%), and 18 patients ineffective (40.9%). As the
result indicates, Liu Wei Di Huang Wan can significantly improve the treatment
effectiveness for type 2 diabetes.
Dr. Zhong Lei [2] used modified Liu Wei Di Huang Wan to treat 65 type 2 diabetes
patients. After treatment, 30 patients showed no symptoms, body weight return to
normal, fasting plasma glucose < 7.7 mmol/L, qualitative test of preprandial glucose
in urine (-), 24h quantitative test for glucose in urine < 5g, and 28 patients were
effective, with a total efficiency rate of 89.2%.
Asymptomatic diabetic patients can also be treated with modified Liu Wei Di Huang
Wan. Due to lacking of symptoms such as polydispia, polyuria and polyphagia, these
diabetic patients were occasionally diagnosed during their regular physical
examination. Dr. Hu Jianping [3] used Liu Wei Di Huang Wan to treat 21
asymptomatic diabetic patients, with 7 cured, 10 fundamentally cured, 3 effective and


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post Feb 13 2017, 07:51 AM

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I hv never heard ot cases of people recover fr diabetics.

Wonder if its a conspiracy by medical procession or diabetic is a condition that carry on for life?
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post Feb 13 2017, 08:03 AM

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You dont recover. You can reverse the high readings n keep it under control without meds. People have done this for years. Malaysians too stubborn. No rice cannot. No bread cannot. No sugar cannot. No eyes, no feet, no fingers, can?
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In the long report.. fasting glucose below 7.7 mmol/l or hba1c?

Americans see ideal as 4.5-5.5
Above 7 fasting is diabetic. Why 7.7 mmol in chinese report considered cured? It is controlled...but high side.
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 13 2017, 08:08 AM)
In the  long report.. fasting glucose below 7.7 mmol/l or hba1c? 

Americans see ideal as 4.5-5.5
Above 7 fasting is diabetic.  Why 7.7 mmol in chinese report considered cured?  It is controlled...but high side.
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because the report is fukin crap.

the point of a study is to compare result of drug group vs control group.

no publish control group result.

never define what's "cure", "effective", ineffective".

very small study group.

no double blind.

no segregation to normalise effect of age, sex, weight, control of diabetes etc etc.



without all those.........what's the point of the 7.7 thing? what does it mean? nothing.
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post Feb 14 2017, 01:47 AM

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Agreed.

It just showed the drugged group response but no before n after numbers...n nothing for controll group.
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QUOTE(JeweL_ @ Feb 12 2017, 11:15 PM)
Hi, thank you very much.

I have stop consuming carbs and sugar and totally no brown rice.
but it seems like i am constipated all the time now. i shit like once a week now and always feel bloated.

i have appointment this coming Thursday and i will update u guys. my HbA1c before this was 11.
i think i can adapt to metformin now, but i just need to find the right way to eat it. because i always have no breakfast in the morning.

i think sometimes i just wait till lunch then only eat the 1st pill.
if my reading is good this thursday, i will try and ask the doctor to reduce it to 2 pills a day.

for now i just want to avoid carbs and sugar, don't spike my insulin levels...
and become more active.... i feel normal now but i always forget that i need to take medication. i keep on forgetting.
maybe because i am not used to taking meds everyday... i feel so sad when i type this.

can share with me, Mecobalamin is a brand?

and these few days.. especially at midnight, i feel nauseated. i don't know why. is it because i didn't eat carbs? is that why i can't shit and feel bloated all the time?
i tried having kopi o to trigger the bowel movement, but it doesn't work...
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Why, I thought brown rice is good for you..?
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QUOTE(jagged @ Feb 14 2017, 02:51 PM)
Why, I thought brown rice is good for you..?
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yes and no.

everything is good and bad.

dose determines the poison.


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post Feb 14 2017, 04:02 PM

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anything vomited by tankerbell12345 should be ignored.

JeweL_ you just need to exercise regularly, swimming or walking or running, watch your calories intake and source of calories. High fibre diet will make your bowel movement easier. You don't need white sugar to function. Carbs are fine but no overindulge. you can function without Carbs but you won't be happy.

discuss with doctor on drugs option. For a young DM like you, drugs like victoza or bydureon can helps your pancreas.

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Wah, like that a..
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Feb 14 2017, 04:02 PM)
anything vomited by tankerbell12345 should be ignored.

JeweL_ you just need to exercise regularly, swimming or walking or running, watch your calories intake and source of calories. High fibre diet will make your bowel movement easier. You don't need white sugar to function. Carbs are fine but no overindulge. you can function without Carbs but you won't be happy.

discuss with doctor on drugs option. For a young DM like you, drugs like victoza or bydureon can helps your pancreas.
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technically incorrect.

because certain body cell(heart and kidney) only takes glucose(a type of sugar) as energy source. many other cells can be adequately happy burning fatty acid and ketone as source of energy.

the correct phrase should be don't need to consume refined sugar.

carb = set of complex and simple sugar.
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QUOTE(JeweL_ @ Feb 12 2017, 11:15 PM)
Hi, thank you very much.

I have stop consuming carbs and sugar and totally no brown rice.
but it seems like i am constipated all the time now. i shit like once a week now and always feel bloated.

i have appointment this coming Thursday and i will update u guys. my HbA1c before this was 11.
i think i can adapt to metformin now, but i just need to find the right way to eat it. because i always have no breakfast in the morning.

i think sometimes i just wait till lunch then only eat the 1st pill.
if my reading is good this thursday, i will try and ask the doctor to reduce it to 2 pills a day.

for now i just want to avoid carbs and sugar, don't spike my insulin levels...
and become more active.... i feel normal now but i always forget that i need to take medication. i keep on forgetting.
maybe because i am not used to taking meds everyday... i feel so sad when i type this.

can share with me, Mecobalamin is a brand?

and these few days.. especially at midnight, i feel nauseated. i don't know why. is it because i didn't eat carbs? is that why i can't shit and feel bloated all the time?
i tried having kopi o to trigger the bowel movement, but it doesn't work...
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Hi TS,
Sorry for late reply as I'm always on the move. The feeling of bloated/gassy and nauseated are also some side effects of metformin that I had and still have from time to time. I never had constipation caused by metformin. This could be caused by drastic change in your diet. You should take a little of unprocessed carbohydrate such as brown rice or even better fruits in the morning or afternoon (never at night). Too much meat intake or lack of fibre may also cause constipation. Try your best to take something for breakfast (I sometime take just an apple or pear if I'm busy) and make your medication timing more regular.

Mecobalamin is also known as methylcobalamin, a coenzyme that helps to counter the decrease of VitB12 absorption. You can find few brands in local pharmacy. The brand I use is Live-well because they have done proper studies on their supplements.

Since you're meeting your Dr on Thursday, ask him if you can take Metformin Retard (850 ER). This will really help in reducing side effects caused by Metformin 850.

I understand your feelings when you say you are sad when typing that you have to take meds everyday. I too was very devastated when I first had to take meds and face the side effects everyday. But I had decided that this 'Diabetes' is not going to put me down. I still have many things that I want to do in life and for my family. You too must find something in life that is more important to go on for than your sorrow. Self pity will only make the condition worse. Find a way slowly to counter and control this 'condition' by changing your diet, lifestyle and attitude. Realise that there millions of people with your condition and some are very successful still and live long. I sincerely hope you take care of yourself and take control of your condition than letting it take it control of you. console.gif

My very best to you bro.

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