As understand the mid year will be silent refresh. Doubt they will upgrade to so soon.
At time wait and wait... there is always something better in technology. So will never buy leh.

On ur slowness comment.... hmmm paid a premium still sluggish ka? Or is it ur expectation too high?

It's bearable. I don't expect much on virtual machine but i think the performance could've been better. It might be the virtual machine I'm using, it might not. On MacOS itself, smoooth.

virtual machine?
what do you mean? as in running Windows?

Yes. To run Windows. You have two choice to run Windows on Mac; to dual boot (Bootcamp) or to use virtual machine, a software you install on Mac to load other OS like Windows, Ubuntu (i.e Parallels, Virtualbox)

just buy the without touch bar lag, but spec up the memory and processor law

guys, which cheapo monitor is well suite to macbook 1440 resolution? planning to get a custom rig and want to get a monitor that can be used with mbp as well. budget around 700.

Just got mine and joined the club.
13" w TB. And got a big hole in my wallet.

Machines at Empire din have many accessories choice. Only grab a targus USB port.
Perhaps should get a MagSafe charger cable too

Apple did promise pro grade machines this year, from the iMac (perhaps just a spec bump) and perhaps moving the Macbook Pro's to Kaby Lake as well to utilise up to 32Gb of RAM on the 15" models.

If you are going that method with the 15" model, the model without the TB doesn't have a good graphics card along with it.

I couldn't find a good one at that resolution for RM700 to be honest. I ended up with just a 1080p monitor 27" by Acer instead.

All 15 inches comes with touch bar right?

Except the old one

Latest model, yes

Which model you use? I might just go with 24" 1080p but need to test and see first how it looks compared to 27".

Just realize, a pain in a$$ for Mac in organizing photo.
Any quick tips in keeping it to various folder and not in a massive library?

Yup, technically it's just an old shell but you can spec it up with the new processors and stuff via the Apple Store.

I got this monitor from AllIT for RM860. Chose this one because of the ports I require, HDMI, DVI and VGA ports because I swap between my old desktop (uses DVI) and my Macbook 12" which I use a HDMI USB C dongle. Also prefer to use a matte screen as my glossy Dell 27" is a pain at times because of the glare.

http://www.11street.my/productdetail/acer-...onitor-33941186

I'm using the 15 with TB, but I think I can give some insight on the 13 tb vs nontb

Pros of
Nontb
> Significantly better battery life (about 2 hour extra)
> No touchbar (Consider a pro)
> Upgradeable storage in the future
> almost similar performance as tB

TB
> More ports
> Slightly faster RAM (not noticeable)
> SLIGHTLY better graphics (Anything that require more graphic workload will still lag on both tb and ntb, anything that will lag on NTB will still lag on TB)
> Better processor for longer-time workload (but almost similar speed for short bursts) - 24W vs 15W Processor, the 24W can hold the maximum speed for longer time

(processor speed should not be a big consideration, if not you'll be looking at the TB 15 models.
The only consideration is is the extra 2 ports (Not TB3 full speed) + useless touchbar worth it for you to sacrifice slower and shorter battery life?

If you want performance, you should consider 15. Both the TB and non TB runs almost similarly on benchmark. (and less to no difference in real life)

Good advice. Appreciate it.
Though came a little too late. Just got mine yesterday. Anyway, will be between TB and non TB. Can't go for 15 as don't need the top notch performance.

Din realize the battery of non TB would last so lomg( 2 hrs is a lot)

for TB version, what's the average battery life it can achieve with normal work usage eg. documents, some youtube, web browsing, etc?

Should get steady 6-8 hours for normal work usage for TB 13 and 15,
should get about 8-12 hours for normal work usage for nTB