As per topic.. girls who have said they dont mind about monies about earning and etc..

On a negative side, while i was walking ard midvalley/gardens shops show preety much ones spending powers are limited despite income are 5 digits above.. felt quite insecured.. worried bout future .. such as how long can we maintain d said sum and etc

Girls being gf or single looking whom are looking for partners.. what are d most important criterias? Well, seeing the rows and rows of shops.. selling bags.. perfumes.. clothes and etc and how ppl are spending.. those girls who cant spend or their bf cant afford so..do they feel shortchanged? Yet i have known many girls who can think and understand d financial abilities of their bf and etc.. and many proceed to married and etc still live happy..despite budget in spending and etc..

But far from within the corner of my heart lies a doubtful scent and knocking and cracking of the heart dying to discover what girls really meant when they say they understand and do not mind her bf earning and spending.. ARE those statements made by them are GENUINELY mean so..

To my thoughts and deep analytical.. somewhere along d lines i feel girls do mind.. what quality does then these women sees in a men to forgo such. i would be proud and feel safe if i could pay for all d spending .. exp.. if u were to buy a bag say long champ.. ysl.. etc.. isnt it good if you buy all the colours and let her choose instead..

Is love .. time.. sincerity really what girls are seeking over material satisfaction.. ? Or is it that i have not reach the wealthy level to see and feel that basically there is no difference... btw rich poor and moderate.. still eat food. Still breath.. still sleep.. etc.. just that differing financial position have better experience in all aspects?

My partners says.. rich ppl are like a everest mountain.. they have conquer it.. seen what is up there.. and decided nth special also.. those who never climb before will think..and wonder what is on the top... praying..worship.. invest time and etc pondering d said mountain.. believing it is how good how good..

Really need to earn more? Can i just enjoy life naturally or keep climbing and climbing.. ?

My wretched thoughts!!! Appreciate to those who took time to read and comment..

how old are you ts?
still single?

edit : -nvm I don't think my answer is relevant-

This post has been edited by AwesomeWeng: Dec 30 2016, 09:32 PM

true ... i just had a fight with my gf ... ( i am at shanghai for half a month with my gf ... holiday trip) and she wanted to buy a dress at pasar malam cost rm120 ... i told her its not value for money its pasar malam quality item ... ended up no buy and whole trip coming back give me cold war ...

Quote myself

Doesnt really matter if u can spend a lot on her or not..at the end of the day depends on ur capability and more importantly her personality in accepting the kind of lifestyle u both are comfortable with

from my dating life experience..u get what u pay for..u want to those instagram "pretty girls"? u better be able to spend

what those girls show off is not a sustainable lifestyle man..of course girls will compare
"oh xxx bf brought her to London" and u can only bring her to bangkok
"oh xxx bf earning 5digit" and ur only bringing back rm4000 at age 26
"oh xxx bf driving bmw" and ur driving Myvi

when someone they perceive as better comes along..they will dump u or cheat

I know but she can go herself as her family is capable just me not enough but she choose me.. i m looking long term

Happiness is about being contented.
Everything else is relative.

When it comes to money,
You can either tag your happiness towards a certain 'price tag' and try to chase that,
or you can be happy just by being contented with what you have.

To put into perspective,
I know a scary smart person, maybe even a genius.
But hes an underachiever by choice, because he dislike expectations.

He lives a very modest life as a repairman, and most ppl will get fooled by his appearance.
Money is never a problem for him cos he doesnt want expensive things.
But anytime he does want something luxurious or his mother want them,
he'll always think of a way to get money with a project or two.
The things ppl always bring up is why didnt he further his studies, get high paying jobs or even be his own boss doing business (cos he clearly can)

Hes always reading, thats how he gets his life fulfilled.

I mean I have mad respect for the man, but I think most ppl would want to achieve something with their lives.
Hes just an extreme case of a person being contented even tho ppl around him can clearly see he can have so much more in life.


To cut things short,
whenever I feel like my happiness is "tied" to something,
I think about how happy he is with his life and I try to emulate that.


Happiness is a state of mind that can be achieved with either:
A. material things
B. with your own mental prowess


You can be happy WHILE you climb. Its not mutually exclusive.
Always try to be happy, and try to get rich too if you can!

There's no simple answer. It depends on the girl herself. Girls like the ones Aztec posted exists. The loyal ones also exist. If you bait the girl with money, expect a gold digger. Simple as that. Not all women are gold diggers. Some women just want your time and company, some want your money. I think you're looking at women as too simple a creature.

You think she might feel like she isn't gaining anything by dating you since there are better candidates out there, but she might also think you're the best she can do or you're just the one for her.

When you see people more successful in life, you don't immediately want to be their friend or partner right? You just set an aim to achieve what they have. Same with girls. They also want to achieve that success. Weak girls are the ones who leech off their male partners to get what they want instead of working honestly for it. It's the 21st century. Girls aren't the weak princesses you they are The ones who are, they're just giving other females a bad name or as popularly coined, the pump and dump types.

Enjoy the time you spend with this girl of yours. If you feel inadequate, try to work towards achieving your goal. If she can't stick by you, she isn't worth it anyway.

This.

+1
Nice!

Money is not everything.
Affording luxury lifestyle is overrated.
Memories, companionship and being able to grow and walk together in difficult times is more important.

there is always a limit to what your gf can brags in front of her besties..

Girl like that obviously don't know how to save money, only know how to spend. When you save money with your own, you will love that money you save, you will be thinking it's worth to spend for travel, things or whatever. Find girl's are think like that, they watch too many dramas on TV, some prince charming with lot of money come to get them.

depends on how much your gf loves you.....

i had both poor/rich bfs be4......in the end still choose poor bf and never really use his money at all because I see myself with him foreva....so why the heck am i using up his money for our future Seriously if any gals just use and use your monies like water...dump her. And.....a good gf/wife help her man's finances instead of using like no end.....no money no prob, help him in his career/business/watever so that you can spend that together for a happy life/future together instead.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Jan 3 2017, 10:46 AM

I understand what you have in mind.

I have never had partners in my life, except one man who was financially weak, who lost his job and became illegal expat who actually loves me because I was capable of providing him haven and foods.

His love grew wider for me, while mine faded after three months of knowing him. My love faded because I knew the reason he loved me. It didn't matter how true his love was anymore when the root came from the fact I could have helped him. Despite this issue, I remained his "love life" for three years until he safely left to his country - and then I told him I wanted to break up.

He accepted it. (Unusual)

It's different when a woman doesn't have partners because she is financially independent. Based on my experience, I am afraid to let anyone pays me even for drink because I am not used to it.

When any men offer me dinner or whatever things dates do, I get shivered.

"What does he want in return?" is what I usually ask myself.

I want to be sorry for men who were digged by these women (they are everywhere, regardless of nationalities). However, the men have chosen them. It is not entirely the diggers' fault.

I helped my ex partner, though I felt burdened. It was my mistake to never leave earlier (though he threatened me mentally, hence I postponed my plan).

Wherever I am with any men I will always refuse anything, unless they really meant it that they really do what to provide this for me.

There was a man who introduced himself to me. After few months, we went out. He asked the type of guy I like, and an important question:

"Do you mind marrying or dating someone who is not rich?"

I said, "I don't. Because that's not what I looked for in love."

The answer astounded him and his friends.

Anyway TS, every girl loves to be treated. But a good girl knows when to draw lines. When to ask, to have. There are many bag stores in the world. I walk by LV, it never makes my eyes sparkle. Not every woman dreams of having all these bags.

The only thing that sparkles me is actually my favourite cheese carbonara or fried chicken that cost less than rm18! Or handsome Japanese who is single.

just keep growing your bank la untill the point that LV feels like Uniqlo to you.

but regardless a gift is still a gift. I see that most girls can judge based on % of the cash you have rather than the price of the goods.

If you poor and buy coach for her she will go wah... this guy so willing for me sia... but if you rich and buy LV.. she will go niama buy lapsap... im expecting hermes from him lor

i really love her quite a lot...

same thing she is doing.. and trying... but the roles are all reversed... and is "love" alone really carries that much of a meaning? and all those effort and etc..

still sitting ard and think how lucky can I be... anyway I have decided to put more effort and my best.. well at least if fails i did try but failed rather than did not try at all which is confirm fail..

really dunno how.. but nice sharing of experience... you really try your best in this round and really not easy doing so.. I on the other hand would never want to rely like that.. in stead I feel should increase my income to about the same or higher.. feel happy like that at least she is not earning alone thou..

and ya those little things in life are just so simple and so easy.. sometimes I dont believe the word "love" could extend so far..

I am trying.. to increase income and care more without thinking of return learn more skills music/cooking/ and any interest

Sorry but after reading and realised that you are earning 5 figures already and you still cannot maintain a gf. Are you being serious? there are a lot of couples out there both add up their salary also had not reached 5 figures and you are telling all of us you are unable to sustain your life and your gf? wow.. I just felt a big shotgun fired at me with 8 smaller bullets in short range. But seriously, if you earn 5 figures and you can sustain, I believe is your spending too much, expenses are too high or the girl you are maintaining is way too high for you to handle. Love doesn't come from one side.. I hope you know what you are doing and wish you can find the right one.

I have high commitments... property/ car.. spending really minimal.. it is not to say cant support normal food like cafes ok.. but how long ur partner will follow like a stagnant gradient... does "love" really can overcome all that? how about trips? gifts? upgrades car house? clothes? I m d one feeling the difference... i believe somewhere along partners will built resentment also ...

she probably earns higher and going higher... really need to try more and harder..

between it is income not salary.. so sometimes not stable..

more to say i wanted to know what a higher income women will think when with a lower income partner... if for men to have higher income.. it is ok.. in fact if i really love her.. i would help and give assistance to her and I would really do not mind..

but she has to try her best... and not merely

what do you really think at the back of your head when with man with lower income? do you feel like u would want to care for him and use whatever within your power to protect him and assist him?

Exactly, but only if I have feelings for him.
Rarely men want to be protected in this manner these days though (Woman as protector seems too strong for a man).

Throughout my dating experience, all my dates have average income. Few non Malaysians probably have slightly higher average income than us. I never asked anything from them even when we went out together. They treated me for lunch but if they gave choices - I would opt for cheaper options. "Neroteca or chicken rice?" "The latter."

But these people felt bad instead, so they would treat me to a better dinner or lunch when I didn't feel the need to. It happened recently with one man. I don't know how to deal with it, usually women would feel happy. I'm not unhappy, but I feel like I would burden him.

If I have a boyfriend, I will use my own salary to buy my beauty stuffs. I will not ask my boyfriend for this. I know life is hard, and money is not easily gained. When it is to be shared, it will be shared for the use of both parties ie: normal dinner, or condom -____-

really having feelings/love is of that important? that one women will assist her no matter what? I feel d same from her.. I feel her effort so overwhelmed... really sincere..

you really dont feel anything eating sth simple? i feel like she is not being deserving treated..

same thing things here also... she would buy her own and sometimes buy for me pulak.. when it is shared definitely same.

so on top of all that, what you wanted from the man? what you want him to provide? just purely care? love? I always wanted to reciprocate but not many times not within my means.. so i choose time and effort instead... and patience... like going a place far far drive and waited to buy sth she likes.. learn some cooking... be a good listener.. solve problems in work... constant learning and studying to gain more knowledge especially work related.. give assurance of the future lor.. are you higher income women think d same? alwayls she say does not matter about the earnings.. just that no gamble.. no debts.. no ah longs.. no bad habits.. and SINCERE.. and etc.. so SIMPLE? sometimes i jio act "manja also"

she always says just need to accompany.. my question is alwayls is "love" that powerful? no meaning just a feel...sometimes really cannot see one party playing only must reciprocrate xxx

I never gave on getting equal earnings.. some months i hit beyond her but so hard so many effort not consistent.. pressure sometimes... but i wanted to be myself.. but I know cannot be so below expectation.. must strive

I m plotting surprise in career to boost way beyond her not letting her know only times come

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 3 2017, 05:10 PM

So refreshing to see wise comment in cc. +1

Question is how lower income man need to do in return to reciprocate? what women really seeks?

coz after few months feel yourself not so special also compared to other men out there... even tall/handsome/smart/funny/charming etc also wont be long too.. skillful/resourceful/ career maybe... i feel these are closest home ground safety . this "love" really make me drop expectation a lot.. its aura and power really.. ah cannot justified

stick back of what i can do the best.. and sincere.. MOTTO
attempt to do= still may fail but got chance
never do= sure fail

so dilemma... feels like we are expendable unit anytime..

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 3 2017, 05:08 PM

To me the simplest way to choose/assess a girl":

Latest IPhone user - don't even think

Choose girls that use phones that cost <RM2K, those <RM1K even better.

Easiest and simplest way to see.

TS, leave the materialistic ones to the rich men, the girls dig gold, we let the rich and/or dirty old men dig their you-know-where.

There is always market for the more prudent ones.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 3 2017, 05:08 PM

she is not also... in fact I think I am pulak ...

Then YOU are the material-chasing one

Well, I can only say, good luck

In life, it's not how much u earn, how expensive u can buy, but how content u are.

You ask me go dine at high class restaurants, I feel uncomfortable and feel don't worth it.
I rather go eat at kopitiam and talk c0ck with the uncles and aunties there, and scream my lungs out to get the indon kakak's attention for my Teh Ais.

i also like kopitiam and etc feel worth it... but worry she cant accept.. thou she always prefer so... but just cannot (my problem)

do not have this problem also when I m single or even got other girls interested.. maybe dont care about them also

That's why other than the "IPhone test", my other early stage "test" for girls is...take them makan at my favourite kopitiam, which is quite run-down and frequented by mostly neighbourhood clientele. If they show any signs of feeling uncomfortable, that's the last they would see of me.

Not sure want to laugh or cry lol

Maybe he also expected if he spent 90% of his monthly income to buy a gift for his girl, he expects the girl to give 90% of her time to him, free-for-all.

Bonchi oh

Simple, the education and society has been teaching exactly just that..

example, try riding a bicycle with no brakes,
but they rather have brakes then to master the maneuver, and hone the skills.
simple terms, they just want it easy.
anybody can apply a loan, or fall in debt and get something that is flashy.

(slowly backing away as everybody is triggered)

#Getalifebro

No la, society nowadays wanna ride superbike before even learn how to ride a bicycle

My job here is done...

hmm ,

..........Time is really powerful. If my partner stays beside and spend time with me, even if we don't talk, it will make me very comfortable. As for me, I want to be loved, with loyalty and sincerity. It is not easy to be loved unconditionally. Most partners seek some benefit from each other. Love is really not about sex or fine dinner or show off. But the time and understanding (conversation) and laugh will make everything memorable - even sex. ..........



haha sth I have.. that why am doing a due diligence check.. I am like that either u get all or get nth from me..

true! true! true! it a sense of calm , happy literally can feel ur little heart jumping inside for no reason, sense of satisfaction and feel safe.. unconditionally takes incident/ events and time... to prove it

lastly, deep conversation and understanding conversations are the most meaningful and memorable ones..



.............She seems like a good girl. I wonder why you are astounded by this kind. Maybe because humans are slowly losing kindness. I also trust men less as I can see nicer men fading. If you are worried, then you can always talk to her and ask her if she wants anything.

"What's your favorite food or item? Maybe we could try 😀!"
You seem inferior about yourself with her.........


maybe compared to my previous relationship gua.. alwayls she say dont compare

ask many times time just want accompany/be at her side ... (cannot be right) the details of other stuffs i know di... trying to make it special


......I'm confused with your sentence.
Yes, someone who has feeling to someone will have no problem to compromise and cooperate. This will come naturally, there will be no feeling of "If I help him, he will be more selfish one day" "Maybe I should test him".

Of course we must have feelings for someone first. Otherwise, we will be overnice by helping every one on earth!....

I just wonder can someone be so good.. but her temper is .. but i like temper girls look cute also

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 3 2017, 05:46 PM

In the end, all those money and luxurious lifestyle will be meaningless without true love and sacrifice to build a good family.

hmm I have never reach the top yet... thus far... but i can provide those for sure

u speak from experience? seems? can fast forward the time to 20 years later I can confirm there is really real love irregardless of earnings should gf become wife

Talking from a more pragmatic point of view...

TS, please pity those men working in blue collar and lower income jobs.

Guys like you, your willingness to spend on girls, are killing those guys. Serious. Have you ever thought of them? People like you are creating an unhealthy materialistic society, and people like them will end up foreveralone.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 3 2017, 06:02 PM

i do take them as example... just that they are living examples to prove otherwise... but I alwayls expect the worse for myself .. good things for me dont come easy...

I may sound like a broken record, but a better, healthier world starts with us.

Never ever think "I'm just an individual, what change can I bring?"

Property bubble/bust starts with this kinda mentality
Material things-chasing society too

I still feel that in love and relationship.. nothing is confirm and still unexpected in many ways... so just do your best ba... may future you might not know who will be with u..

follow. comment tonight

But i use a flagship android phone which costs more than rm2k

Anyway to TS or whoever relevant, no matter you earn 10k or 20k, if you are a salaryman, then money ain't easy to pile up for you. 10k after tax deductions is only about rm8.5k something. Those ppl driving BM carrying LV are mostly businessman, before GST, many businessman were great at conceal their true wealth within. Not to mention ppl who get rich via illegal means, you know how many lobangs and songlaps in bolehland compare to Singapore.

If you are a mere honest salaryman it is advisable not to spend like a businessman, you will lose out eventually.

Not my usual playground, but this seems like a really interesting thread.

I'm not quite qualified to comment given my limited experience in dating. One guy from the start to end (hopefully)

But yeah, not all women are gold diggers. Seriously, there's so much more in life than money (although all my other posts on lowyat is about managing money). What I looked for was not how much money he had in the pocket, or how much he earned. But rather, is he aspired to make an honest living with his own skills and expertise. Sure, life isn't always smooth sailing and not all talented people get identified from the start; but it's the grit and determination that set you from the rest. And that, is often what the 'wiser' girls look for in their future partners. What's the point of getting the second generation rich who does nothing, or those who have no ethics or integrity, or those who would just replace you with a younger hotter woman later on

In the meantime, I've also seen some friends where wife earn significantly more than the husband, and it does strain the marriage due to society expectations and pressure. So it needs to be a conscious decision for both to work this out despite other's opinion

I'm glad you are thinking about it at this stage, but it also shows that it bothers you a lot. So you need to figure out how to overcome this

if spend 90% income.. might as well buy her a bungalow liao

OOT.. bought back an early 90s rare Xjapan filmgig poster from japan for 4.5K yen


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be serious a little bit,

from my POV, men dont want to be protected but rather being supported by their partner.

Most of the time i bring dates to really expensive places to eat is not because i want to impress but rather i want to make it memorable for myself as well. That is because it will usually be my first time eating there too. Chicken rice etc can be reserved when it becomes more casual. Plus you dont have to rush and leave at atas places and you can slowly enjoy your time there. The quiet environment and ambiance makes it a good place to have nice conversations as well.

Gifts are like tokens of appreciation regardless big or small.. The boys just want to let you know how much you meant to him and is willing to give you part of his savings to show that he wants you be part of his life. .....and also giving cash directly to you is not nice right....

However putting it in another perspective...basing off my previous troll comment.... If a richfag buys a hermes purse with 0.1% of his monthly income vs a normal guy buying a simple coach with an entire month of his... who would appear more sincere? and how would a girl judge?

that is just wow. what a story, how did you fix it?

Scary story....

In the end when it comes to girls, the main criteria is security.

They pretty much knew that feelings are not enough as those will fade (and women feelings fades faster as time goes by), hence they need another catalyst as a reason for them to stay. And that is your finances.

They are realistic until its too late, but this fact will never ever change.

You are focusing on the wrong thing. If you are focusing on the right thing, everything falls into place itself.

What you need to focus now is none other than yourself. Invest in yourself.
Learn new skills, keep working on what you love doing and be the very best version you can be.

Here's why.
1) If you love what you are doing, likely you will be good at what you are doing. If you are really good at what you are doing. As long as it has values in marketplace, likely you will get paid for it. Even clowns get paid very well. Given you are good at it. I'm not joking.
2) It's not so much about how much you can make. It's about how confident you are about your skills and making a living out of it. That's security. I have learned this from a guy that spends 10 years in IT field. He is kinda Sherlock Holmes there. To him, there is no good economy nor bad economy. It's just a matter of more money or less money.
3) Now if you have something that gives you confidence in yourself; you are knowledgeable. You are contented. You are esteemed. You are confident. Most importantly, you complain less. When you talk, you know what you are talking and you talk with aura that attracts people. You may not attract everyone, but you will certainly attract like minded people that share the same values.

Here's a little principles I keep that might be useful to you. Expect from none others but yourself. Don't expect women will magically change. If ever women change how they feel about you, it's definitely something you change on yourself. If you love the changes you made on yourself, you will not be frustrated if you don't get the attention you want as you would be as satisfied. Expect from none others but yourself.

yes you a re right... i see it could be a problem in the future or she might built resentment or admire other person sucess instead.. not so much to be the best.. but sth to be proud of and acceptable... I want to sail together in those earnings and achievement.. so fun , so calm, so confident , so good just waiting my chance (never stop trying)

don't want to feel her love would be wasted only

it must be also some skills which are intelligent (which feel so handsome and secure) like built a great wall instead lor

really love this statement thou

yes your principle is what i am looking for.. with that comes success and achievements right.. respect will follow

My ex passed all these tests with flying colours. In fact she love to eat at kopitiam especially those with ala kampung food.
Little did I know she has been cheating behind my back for 1.5 years, and she knew that is the worse she can do to me as my previous ex did the same.
She even said she didn't cheat because flirting, sextexting and hiding things with another dude behind my back is not cheating. It's cheating only if it involves physical sex to her. She didn't feel any remorse.

Yeah girls are misterious and I would not put much thoughts on how they think anymore.

Dude... if a girl makes you feel pressured about money, then she is not for you. Leave the gold digger for a rich snob to pick up, she can suck him dry instead.

You mentioned you earn like 5 figures. Abuden? If you make RM30k/mo oso, it still won't be enough if you keep thinking like this.

With a 5-figure salary you should go out there and enjoy life la... instead of entering into a neverending chase to earn more money because you're worried you won't be able to whet the retail appetite of a materialistic gold digger.

Get out there, find something good that you enjoy doing... and do it passionately. This is the easiest way to attract the right girls. Flashing your money will only get you shallow gold digging trash.

Well said. Every single point.

If only guys in this section understand this, and this section would have no new posts

I don't think your mount Everest theory is true on everyone. The more richer the people, the more they want, human nature is that they are never satisfied with their greed. Also when you have reached the top of Everest, you see nothing special, but do you want to be demoted to the bottom or lower half of Everest where you are subjected to avalance and landslides? People nature, once they on top, they want all the respek, they will never go down the level and live poor again.

About girls, sorry can't say for sure if they are like what you describe.

But they like to compare with other people. If they hear other girl get special treatment from other guy, they also want you to treat them like that. They feel envy very easily. Well I maybe wrong. But I've seen girls complain to their boyfriends, why their friends bring them to hilltop restaurant for romantic bday celebration, but they only get pizza hut. Well something like that..

Exactly exactly.
Many men in relationship in fact do these cheating as well.
It's so predictable it makes me question everyone who is in relationship, and makes me feel being single is less hurtful.

There are some guy that when they talk. It stimulates your inner passion. He makes you feel possible. Alive. Looking forward to wake up tomorrow.
You get what I'm talking about?

Focus on progress. Success comes later. How soon depends on what you choose to do very next moment.

I will keep repeating.
Until maybe one day, when I walk up to bearbearwong and ask him. How's it going?
He said great. And I look over his shoulder and the lady giggled. Then, I'm glad he made progress.

You mean shallow one.
Like people that lie their way into pants. Those who gets into relationship for convenience(ATM/sex).

Not everyone. Relationship is suppose to be fulfilling and satisfying.
There are people that lived together 40-50years and still very much in love.

Wah rui so good in motivating.. focus on progress.. success comes later.. hmm.. action is still more important.. my gf say she want a home not a big house or etc.. i still tink we need achievements for them to feel proud of not necessary d best earnings or etc

U know me meh? Dont sked me ah..

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 5 2017, 10:46 AM

Action is THE most important thing.
You can't lose by action. You can only lose by not taking action.

You guys should talk about how you guys imagine your home to be and align yourself in making progress in that direction.

I got a friend that recently married. He loves a laid back life. He wants to be a farmer.
While the wife is more to a city girl. Hi-tea, ballroom dinner and classy restaurant.

I'm still thinking how the marriage is gonna continue. Imagine.

Husband: Yay! my seedlings are growing healthily.
Wife. *rolleyes.

Wife: There is this celebrity coming to town and guess what? I got us invited!
Husband: Owh. Go have fun.

action... arghhh... be strong ba...both party need to compromise to make it work

dah ok lepas 1 hour ... now travelling kat china lagi

What my perception for girl on that age... their mind set are be single rather than choose a guy who do not meet their financial standard.. most of the girl will think like this.. some still believe in love can do anything but hardly seen this kind of girl.

There is no answer to this question.
You cannot judge or assume anyone's sincerity.
This also doesn't mean the men really love the ladies.
This also might mean the men really love them.

How comfortable and confident the two is will prove how strong the love is.

U need a reason. otherwise however much u earn, its going to be meaningless

Hi BearBearWong

Happy New Year to you and I just realized you posted this question recently and since you responsed when I tagged you, I will have to return the favor by giving my input.

I would say, you cannot generalize what girls in a certain age group would think about or how they will act, although, girls or even guys will tend to act a certain way when they hit a certain age such as:

18 to 24 – I am very young and beautiful so I can act like a Princess and any guy who does not like it can get lost

25 to 30 – I am still young and attractive and I can make demands because I know I am worth it can any guy who does not like it can get lost

31 to 35 – I am smart, mature and still attractive. I have my own demands and expectations and any guy who does not like it can get lost.

36 to 40 – I am still matured beautiful woman who knows what she wants and any guy who does not like it can get lost.

Of course, the above are just typical stereotypes and not all women think like that, although a vast majority, according to guys, think that they do.

I have read many of your postings and I deduced that you’re a Lawyer, probable in your early 30s and you already have a landed property. So, based on Malaysian standards, you can be said to be quite well.
But, things can always be BETTER and as a responsible person, we have the obligation and responsibility to always improve ourselves.

This improvement, is not only in Money but also in knowledge, responsibility, etc. As long as we believe in a better future, we must take the steps to do it. This means

a) Improving knowledge to do better job
b) Improving job position to take on higher responsibility
c) Spend less than you earn to save for future
d) Accumulating assets for the future
e) Investing for the future

All women, especially smart and responsible women, would want their partners to think like that I suppose and also, a responsible man would also want his partner to think like that.

Be realistic about what you and your GF wants. Its always good to want to increase your income but don’t put unnecessary pressure cos your GF earns more than you.

Share the burden, this is what Family is about

Happy new year…

Cheers... cfa28 really helpful and honest thoughts.. will try my very best..

5 figures income still not enough?

Sometimes it's not about how much you earn, but how much you spend

commitments and expectd lifestyle..my partners seems to be ok.. I just feel not right

Depends on the lady if she, herself is capable and also what are her expectations. If she is capable, probably she's not so worried about the money. Just as long as the partner is someone who is proactive and works hard to progress, she'll probably be happy. Instead, suitability and maturity is what she might be looking for, because she, herself can buy what she wants. Cannot la be one who doesn't work hard, then no motivation, immature, intimidated, not suitable, etc. If he gives her hell and also unable to sustain the basic needs then it would mean trouble.

As for expectations, you can see from the lifestyle that she leads, the things she buys and spend money on. Probably a lifestyle to match or a compromise to suit each other is important. Lastly, good to understand what she expects in the long term - eg: want to be stay at home mom. So that will give you a picture of the earning capabilities you should have and if she really minds the $$ issue.

i dont see anything wrong TS gf...
she already stated that she need a home, NOT a big house...fyi, not everyone like big hse.

Big house or big car =/= achievement imo.
BUT if u saying get a few properties for investment then yes agreed with u. Having a home need not a big house unless u have a big family or personal preferences. But she oledi said no need big hse for home........

Most important is knowing what both of u want/needs.

Hi mate,
Understand your concerns, but it really depends on the girl's mindset, some are materialistic, truth to be told, but, not all girls are materialistic and looking only for a boyfriend that is financially able to maintain the luxurious life.

https://mimispassion.files.wordpress.com/20...e_alchemist.pdf

this might help u

Money is not everything. You may not have enough money to buy everything she wants but the end of the day what is most important is how you treat her, respect her, care for her, and also if you are willing to put in effort into the relationship

but you can have money and stillgive her the rest right? this will be an added point?

Of course it will be a plus. Not all girls are so keen on material items. I have seen girls who are just very simple. But these are usually plain looking girls

This is so true......and it's not sometimes........lol

I think simple girls wouldn't mind, complicated ones will mind in someways.

so it's really down to you

Not all women are into designers brand.. even if they are... chances are they can afford those things themselves and it's not a must for the boyfriend to buy them these things

Personally care bout about the chemistry ..whether we can click and have fun together without much effort

the more you earn the more you spend. There are stuff out there for every range of pay. If you warn 3k per month, there are watches and handbags for your class. If you earn 8k per month, there are also watches and handbags for this class. If you earn 50k a mth also got watches and handbags for your class

Dun get me wrong, its not wrong to increase your earnings by going into other biz or working hard for promotion.

Just be realistic la with the girl, have a deep discussion with her about your financial plans. Tell her tht you are not rich but you are have a plan. Buy gifts also buy from the heart la, you can spend on a limited budget but put on some nice present wrappers and put in more effort like wrap small starts in a nice jug.

These midvalley girls you gotta be very careful about. I've encountered one of them - she soon married, but soon found out her husband found it hard to support her conditions, end up their marriage in tatters, argue a lot. Pretty but put on a lot of nice clothes and make up - she look like a Korean K-pop star, sometime wonder why married woman so well dressed everyday. Maybe looking for someone better? Well - that is the thing. After you got into the new relationship, you gotta tell her where you stand in financials, have that private talk with her. If she wanna walk out due to not satisfied with your financials then its well worth it to move on without her - you don't need this kind of people.

Important thing is finding someone who is compatible to your capabilities.

My collegue earning 3k per month, currently age 25. His gf keep asking him to buy a house, must be in good location, not some kampung area, or black area (gangster place). My collegue try to save as much as possible, but his gf always helping him to spend money, go travel, eat expensive food, wear branded items and clothes. Both already couple for around 6 years. My collegue always complaint to me not enough money, and i told him that enough or not enough depends on your requirement. He joined company with basic of RM1.2k, and still can survive, but now RM3k, still no saving. His gf always ask him to find more money. Sometimes, really don't understand what girl want, if a girl love a guy, i suppose she understand, and accept the guy as he is, but seems like its a MUST for a guy to get rich to repay back the girl's love. What's the purpose for falling in love at first if what you really need is MONEY, and you suppose to find some rich guy at first, rather than couple with someone that's poor but hoping/insist him to get rich to fulfill your needs.

seems like money is the motivating factor... hmmm haizzz

Hi TS, didn't check all da post/reply but I have just tis comment

It is not important what other female thinks but what yr GF thinks
please have <3 to <3 talk wif her

seems like you learn a lot of things.. living contented... very important... human keep saying and saying but alwayls fail to change it... i will break free from all of this...

apa lar u?