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 LYN Perodua Axia Club V6, Malaysia's No.1 EEV Now Even Smarter!!!

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post Jan 6 2017, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(banKarl @ Jan 6 2017, 07:38 AM)
Hi all. Can any1 tell me whether New car First service is 1000km?
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Its 5k km.
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post Jan 6 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(2070E @ Jan 5 2017, 07:44 PM)
Hi guys, can the ECU be harmed when using OBD2 bluetooth scanner? I am planning to buy one from lazada.
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It is china made circuit board, be cautious about it. a friend of mine warned me not to use them.

if you purchased it and it worked, do pm me the link u purchased the odb2 reader from.

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post Jan 6 2017, 09:36 AM

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First service is 10k km!! Not 5k km or 1k km!!

Seriously, does anyone read the service book anymore? smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 6 2017, 09:36 AM)
First service is 10k km!! Not 5k km or 1k km!!

Seriously, does anyone read the service book anymore? smile.gif
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5K is just for inspection. looks rather optional
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post Jan 6 2017, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 6 2017, 09:36 AM)
First service is 10k km!! Not 5k km or 1k km!!

Seriously, does anyone read the service book anymore? smile.gif
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people don't bother to read the book anymore , in fact their sa fail to do their job to tell them when should they send to the sc
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post Jan 7 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(BeruangTocang @ Jan 7 2017, 02:19 AM)
New axia midnight blue std G auto owner here thumbup.gif
This my 1st car..not earn money much..ony can buy this  sad.gif
Steering not back to center position is it normal?
And wanna confirm drivetrains either timing chain or timing belt?
And that blue engine indicator need to dissapear before can jalan is it?
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Steering not center? Mine is centered. I think it should centered when you accelerate.
Perodua car use timing chain (I think all). Axia is for sure timing chain
When blue (engine cold), you can still drive away immediately. All modern car has no restriction. It is just that you should not drive over 60km/j or over 2000 rpm. However, by the time you reverse from your parking and about to drive out the light will be off anyway. I think less than 100m laugh.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 08:27 PM

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No problem if skip 5000 km service?
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 7 2017, 01:48 PM)
Steering not center? Mine is centered. I think it should centered when you accelerate.
Perodua car use timing chain (I think all). Axia is for sure timing chain
When blue (engine cold), you can still drive away immediately. All modern car has no restriction. It is just that you should not drive over 60km/j or over 2000 rpm. However, by the time you reverse from your parking and about to drive out the light will be off anyway. I think less than 100m  laugh.gif
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are you sure your steering fully centered when driving ,most or all axia steering won't go back to fully center when driving , try make a u turn and and accelerate hard and let go your hand it won't go fully center , at least remain 30 degree and need manually turn the steering back to center , during driving also same when turn the steering slightly to left or right , it will stays there , it won't bounce back to the fully center at least it will remain about 20 to 30 degree from center .

Maybe don't 30 degrees that much , about 15 degree la . Not like old car without power steering it bounce back to center real quick and complete center , axia even bounce back to center also slow , after make a u turn I still need spin the steering back to center when I really make a u turn real quick

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post Jan 7 2017, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(jenwww @ Jan 7 2017, 08:35 PM)
are you sure your steering fully centered when driving ,most or all axia  steering won't go back to fully center when driving , try make a u turn and and accelerate  hard and let go your hand it won't go fully center , at least remain 30 degree and need manually turn the steering back to center , during driving also same when turn the steering slightly to left or right , it will stays there , it won't bounce back to the fully center at least it will remain about 20 to 30 degree from center .

Maybe don't 30  degrees that much , about 15 degree la . Not like old car without power steering it bounce back to center real quick and complete center , axia  even bounce back to center also slow , after make a u turn I still need spin the steering back to center when I really make a u turn real quick
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Agree


Fix many times also very fast go back to not centred one
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QUOTE(banKarl @ Jan 7 2017, 08:27 PM)
No problem if skip 5000 km service?
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Just go sc, first 5000km they just do inspection for FREE actually. No part change at all. Before sign check first if the sc put crap unuseful thing at the bill such as battery terminal protector or like windscreen washer, just decline things like that because they want make you to pay even a little.
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post Jan 8 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jenwww @ Jan 7 2017, 08:35 PM)
are you sure your steering fully centered when driving ,most or all axia  steering won't go back to fully center when driving , try make a u turn and and accelerate  hard and let go your hand it won't go fully center , at least remain 30 degree and need manually turn the steering back to center , during driving also same when turn the steering slightly to left or right , it will stays there , it won't bounce back to the fully center at least it will remain about 20 to 30 degree from center .

Maybe don't 30  degrees that much , about 15 degree la . Not like old car without power steering it bounce back to center real quick and complete center , axia  even bounce back to center also slow , after make a u turn I still need spin the steering back to center when I really make a u turn real quick
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Never really measure angle. Never really bother much about this in all of my previous car too. If need almost effortless steer a bit by hand and stays straight, I would consider this fine. I need to check again how much off center.
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QUOTE(BeruangTocang @ Jan 7 2017, 02:19 AM)
New axia midnight blue std G auto owner here thumbup.gif
This my 1st car..not earn money much..ony can buy this  sad.gif
Steering not back to center position is it normal?
And wanna confirm drivetrains either timing chain or timing belt?
And that blue engine indicator need to dissapear before can jalan is it?
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U have driven other car before is it for past experience? I think u mean those very good solid bouncing back response feel steering is it (tight & sensitive)? As i newly drove Axia and Myvi time also have the same feeling like yours (feel loose right? the center align tend to have a little loose gab to twist around left & right while car is moving straight time?) but slowly get used to it as days goes by biggrin.gif i think it's their electronic steering mechanism designed to be like this i guess. Some cars tend to be have very solid bouncing straight back feels, as for my experience driven before Kelisa and KIA K3 steering bouncing back response is solid.

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post Jan 9 2017, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jan 9 2017, 11:15 AM)
U have driven other car before is it for past experience? I think u mean those very good solid bouncing back response feel steering is it (tight & sensitive)? As i newly drove Axia and Myvi time also have the same feeling like yours (feel loose right? the center align tend to have a little loose gab to twist around left & right while car is moving straight time?) but slowly get used to it as days goes by biggrin.gif  i think it's their electronic steering mechanism designed to be like this i guess. Some cars tend to be have very solid bouncing straight back feels, as for my experience driven before Kelisa and KIA K3 steering bouncing back response is solid.
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I think you have explained the behavior of centering precisely in general. The car does not know where you are heading since it is not connected to your brain laugh.gif

When you make a turn, you start releasing the steering before the car direction reach the direction you are heading. You will just estimate when you need to start releasing the steering so that by the time the car is pointing in your desired direction the steering is already centered. I think it is designed in such a way that driver will make final adjustment. For me this final adjustment is almost effortless but the steering is still precise to steering direction. Manufacturer can make the motor give more torque to hold center but this will make you work harder to correct the direction if overshot or undershot, I believe.

I think it is not that the steering not centered but how rigid the feeling when it centered and this is tuned by manufacturer. Like you said different car will have different feeling. I think the Viva I drove before about same with the Axia. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 9 2017, 03:14 PM)
I think you have explained the behavior of centering precisely in general. The car does not know where you are heading since it is not connected to your brain  laugh.gif

When you make a turn, you start releasing the steering before the car direction reach the direction you are heading. You will just estimate when you need to start releasing the steering so that by the time the car is pointing in your desired direction the steering is already centered. I think it is designed in such a way that driver will make final adjustment. For me this final adjustment is almost effortless but the steering is still precise to steering direction. Manufacturer can make the motor give more torque to hold center but this will make you work harder to correct the direction if overshot or undershot, I believe.

I think it is not that the steering not centered but how rigid the feeling when it centered and this is tuned by manufacturer. Like you said different car will have different feeling. I think the Viva I drove before about same with the Axia.  hmm.gif
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laugh.gif indeed explained in more technical languange rclxms.gif but i prefer as per-say rigid feels type of tuning, it kinda feels like getting solid grip towards the road.
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QUOTE(BeruangTocang @ Jan 9 2017, 06:43 PM)
Yaya..used to be..but steering very smooth..sangat ringan..syiok..haha
Engine oso so quite..i didnt notice its already start..using ron 97 pickup is better i think..now planning to install UR bar..for steady drive..now like buai2 when speed up
Thanks Zot
Yeah..planning oso using semi syntetic engine oil for 1st service
I saw some ppl say potent booster is good? Is it increase pickup?
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Potent booster .. yeap.. come try it out n be impressed
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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Jan 9 2017, 09:08 PM)
Potent booster .. yeap.. come try it out n be impressed
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How does the potent booster work?
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post Jan 10 2017, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 10 2017, 07:57 AM)
How does the potent booster work?
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it's electronic throttle control unit which changes the electric currents in the gas pedal.

axia is using drive by wire.
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post Jan 10 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(johnngiew @ Jan 10 2017, 10:13 AM)
it's electronic throttle control unit which changes the electric currents in the gas pedal.

axia is using drive by wire.
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If that is so, then what's the different than just step on the gas pedal more on standard Axia? The explanation sounded like if you press the gas pedal say 10mm and it gave the 5V signal but with booster the 10mm distance gave 10V signal. That is how I understood from it biggrin.gif
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 10 2017, 10:54 AM)
If that is so, then what's the different than just step on the gas pedal more on standard Axia? The explanation sounded like if you press the gas pedal say 10mm and it gave the 5V signal but with booster the 10mm distance gave 10V signal. That is how I understood from it  biggrin.gif
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you could adjust the voltage/respond speed etc of the throttle. usually this item comes with several modes. when u put sports mode, a light tap on the gas paddle the RPM will show respond. unlike stock axia, when u need to hold the gas paddle at least 1 second only u will see the rpm move.

Axia stock controller is a bit slow. which is what i believe this is one of the reason axia lacks of pickup. but improves FC.

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QUOTE(johnngiew @ Jan 10 2017, 11:06 AM)
you could adjust the voltage/respond speed etc of the throttle. usually this item comes with several modes. when u put sports mode, a light tap on the gas paddle the RPM will show respond. unlike stock axia, when u need to hold the gas paddle at least 1 second only u will see the rpm move.

Axia stock controller is a bit slow. which is what i believe this is one of the reason axia lacks of pickup. but improves FC.
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For car response like when to do shifting or how rich is the fuel/air mixture, it is in the ECU, which cannot be modified. The slow response probably just how the ECU translate the signal by the signal curve provided by stock accelerator. Perhaps the booster is cheating the signal, the way I see it.

Before this the response was even worse. Perodua has to talk to Toyota to get the program modified after complains from customers before. It took quite long time for Toyota to agree for the change, I was told by Perodua senior service advisor.

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