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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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post Apr 16 2020, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 16 2020, 01:26 PM)
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Very interesting to read this coming from MIEA.

I wonder what REHDA will have to say about this laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2020, 01:35 AM

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Stanley Chera once said that his “secret is to stay underleveraged and you can own something forever”.

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post Apr 21 2020, 02:31 AM

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post Apr 22 2020, 01:33 PM

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This owner bought 2 units subsale in 2018. Both units enter lelong.
1 sold as above.
1 still active as below.
This unit S&P price at 520k. doh.gif for a 1 bedroom unit.
Now at half price? rclxub.gif

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C-18-3, Hedgeford 10
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 252,000🔥🔥
Freehold
556sqft, 1 car park slot
Highest floor unit
Auction: 06-May-2020 (Wed)
*Non bumi lot

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post Apr 22 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 22 2020, 01:33 PM)
This owner bought 2 units subsale in 2018. Both units enter lelong.
1 sold as above.
1 still active as below.
This unit S&P price at 520k.  doh.gif  for a 1 bedroom unit. 
Now at half price?  rclxub.gif

user posted image

C-18-3, Hedgeford 10
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 252,000🔥🔥
Freehold
556sqft, 1 car park slot
Highest floor unit
Auction: 06-May-2020 (Wed)
*Non bumi lot

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nowadays brickz still compiling sufficient prop transaction information ? i see the list keep shrinking
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post Apr 23 2020, 03:18 PM

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We are entering recession for sure......techically not yet because recession is defined by " two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP)"

Anyway, found this rather refreshing and informative article here where authour suggest that the market will recover sooner than we think, possibly in 2 - 3 years time.

http://propertythinktank.my/index.php/2020...pswing-covid19/


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post Apr 23 2020, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(JohnnyBSunday @ Apr 23 2020, 03:18 PM)
We are entering recession for sure......techically not yet because recession is defined by " two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP)"

Anyway, found this rather refreshing and informative article here where authour suggest that the market will recover sooner than we think, possibly in 2 - 3 years time.

                                http://propertythinktank.my/index.php/2020...pswing-covid19/
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What about property overhang?
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post Apr 23 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(JohnnyBSunday @ Apr 23 2020, 02:18 PM)
We are entering recession for sure......techically not yet because recession is defined by " two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP)"

Anyway, found this rather refreshing and informative article here where authour suggest that the market will recover sooner than we think, possibly in 2 - 3 years time.

                                http://propertythinktank.my/index.php/2020...pswing-covid19/
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We are entering uncharted areas, where no one has any experience with. Anything could happen. With such low oil price and exchange rate, I wonder how Malaysia could pay off the national debts.
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post Apr 23 2020, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(beleebala @ Apr 23 2020, 04:07 PM)
We are entering uncharted areas, where no one has any experience with. Anything could happen. With such low oil price and exchange rate, I wonder how Malaysia could pay off the national debts.
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He talks about this thing called Quantitative Easing...etc. he did factor in the low crude oil prices.
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post Apr 23 2020, 04:20 PM

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this covi 19 virus thing caused more harm to the economy than previous economy downturn as it come too fast and nobody is able to react to it...
that's why many experts are telling it will be the worst downturn since great depression happen in 1930s...

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post Apr 24 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(iamloco @ Apr 24 2020, 10:25 AM)
Yeah agreed.. bought a condo 5 years ago (subsale) and now the average price for my condo has dropped by 20%.
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QUOTE(Zwean @ Apr 24 2020, 11:11 AM)
One svc apt, fell from 500k peak to 420k.

Last year got one firesafe unit at 350k. Only can find these deals for properties bought before the boom.

EDIT: too bad low floor and face new development car park.
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QUOTE(precept66 @ Apr 24 2020, 12:32 PM)
Shah Alam area non-LRT line also dropping ~ 15% this time around. Guess further downtrend in coming months.
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Apr 24 2020, 12:45 PM)
i have bought a condo in 1996 at value RM160k  with 1100sqf
during in year 2008 to 2014, then resales value was great can reach upto RM550 to RM600k
But now, due to SS> DD, unprecedented situation, the resales value has drop to less than RM500k
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QUOTE(chainyong @ Apr 25 2020, 12:38 PM)
the huge price drop will happen  once more and more auction units in the market.

Owner wouldn't sell below the price of their outstanding loan, but if they ready unable to pay for the monthly installment, bank will take it and lelong.

70% price drop is possible, but must be a very overprice property and non-hot selling properties type such as SOHO/Studio unit in an outskirt location, or factory/office unit in certain location.

my friend bought a condo around 900 sqf in Klang, the launching price is RM 6xxk after rebate, now developer selling with high rebate, only 4xxk nett price. Developer still have many unsold units, but still unable to clear their stock with so high rebate
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post Apr 25 2020, 04:32 PM

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but then now gov/fed pumping stimulus like no tomorrow...so.... things are pretty much up in the air...no one knows what will happen next for sure...


QUOTE(forever1979 @ Apr 23 2020, 04:20 PM)
this covi 19 virus thing caused more harm to the economy than previous economy downturn as it come too fast and nobody is able to react to it...
that's why many experts are telling it will be the worst downturn since great depression happen in 1930s...
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post Apr 25 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Apr 25 2020, 04:32 PM)
but then now gov/fed pumping stimulus like no tomorrow...so.... things are pretty much up in the air...no one knows what will happen next for sure...
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What gomen or fed did so far is temporary relief not stimulus. Meaningful stimulus need multilateral concerted action and only possible if and after biden is sworn in.

If lockdown is economy deep freeze; when it thaw, there will be flooding. Spring flooding is more devastating than freezing cold winter.

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post Apr 25 2020, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 25 2020, 04:42 PM)
What gomen or fed did so far is temporary relief not stimulus. Meaningful stimulus need multilateral concerted action and only possible if and after biden is sworn in.

If lockdown is economy deep freeze; when it thaw, there will be flooding. Spring flooding is more devastating than freezing cold winter.
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Memang pon. Stimulus is to turn negative into positive. This is just bailout, turning big negative into smaller negative. a foolish one some more.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Apr 25 2020, 04:32 PM)
but then now gov/fed pumping stimulus like no tomorrow...so.... things are pretty much up in the air...no one knows what will happen next for sure...
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bro yeoh long time no see.. now how property market and agent sales? starting last year 2019 already gg... but still will be many sales but 50% off 60% off via ah long borrowings
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Apr 25 2020, 04:32 PM)
but then now gov/fed pumping stimulus like no tomorrow...so.... things are pretty much up in the air...no one knows what will happen next for sure...
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cant do much. much are loan deferment...

wrong move that this backdoor going to help M40.

bullet are limited and shall focus to help SME with the hope to keep the jobs




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post Apr 25 2020, 07:12 PM

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post Apr 25 2020, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Apr 25 2020, 07:11 PM)
cant do much. much are loan deferment...

wrong move that this backdoor going to help M40.

bullet are limited and shall focus to help SME with the hope to keep the jobs
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That right there is the problem, how much do we trust our SME to keep the jobs after they get help from the govt instead of just using the help to lessen their burden but still lay off people. Even if you set rules that they can’t lay off after getting help, what’s to stop them from taking the help the still closing and reopening once situation gets better?
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Apr 25 2020, 07:11 PM)
cant do much. much are loan deferment...

wrong move that this backdoor going to help M40.

bullet are limited and shall focus to help SME with the hope to keep the jobs
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Apr 25 2020, 07:18 PM)
That right there is the problem, how much do we trust our SME to keep the jobs after they get help from the govt instead of just using the help to lessen their burden but still lay off people. Even if you set rules that they can’t lay off after getting help, what’s to stop them from taking the help the still closing and reopening once situation gets better?
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The worst is zombie companies take big portion of the grant.

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post Apr 25 2020, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 25 2020, 07:21 PM)
The worst is zombie companies took big portion of the grant.
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Oh ya, this is Malaysia, this is something highly likely to happen as well.

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