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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Dec 26 2016, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(biastee @ Dec 26 2016, 11:18 AM)
Noob question: What do you guys think about funds that don't charge a fixed annual mgmt fee, but imposes a profit sharing on the profit? E.g. RHB Islam bond fund which charges 15% of the profit. Can this alternate fee mechanism circumvent the unjust situation of manager profiting from non-performance? Thanks
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hmm.gif never thought of profit sharing/performance fees....
any idea, what is the baseline for the %?...
example, if the fund did not meet a certain agreed target %......will the FH top it up? sort of guarantee certain min %?

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 12:19 PM)
So you guys are saying that getting back your money in 4-7 days is considered "liquid"? I thought liquid meant almost instantly.

Also, to confirm my understanding, look at this scenario: At 1pm Monday you place a sell on your unit trust fund. That means, you sell transaction will be conducted using Monday's price right (which is usually only displayed on Tuesday/Wednesday)? So even if you get the money the next Monday, it still conducts the transaction using the Monday price correct?
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You want instant liquidity go for ASX FP. Redeem 6 figure one shot also no problem. Money available on the spot. sweat.gif Even malaysia stock market also uses T+3 days to get back your money fully

QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 03:37 PM)
How come FSM don't sell Advantage Brazil or Advantage BRIC funds? Even AIA funds they don't sell.
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They have. Eastspring Global Emerging market.Invest in China, Russia, India, Brazil.

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post Dec 26 2016, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 26 2016, 09:37 PM)
You want instant liquidity go for ASX FP. Redeem 6 figure one shot also no problem. Money available on the spot.  sweat.gif Even malaysia stock market also uses T+3 days to get back your money fully
They have. Eastspring Global Emerging market.Invest in China, Russia, India, Brazil.
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So usually Unit Trust is T+how many days? T+3 or more?

Eastspring Emerging Market invests in more diverse markets (includes Mexico, Hungary, Chile etc)... BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) or Advantage Brazil invest in narrower markets.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 26 2016, 03:44 PM)
Go ask them tomorrow? they have live chat and email.
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Atm I don't got an account with them. I see they got a bit more offering than CIMB Clicks, but CIMB Clicks already offer all that I want. Except for narrow focus BRIC or Brazil funds...both also don't have!

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post Dec 26 2016, 10:18 PM

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post Dec 27 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 10:03 PM)
Atm I don't got an account with them. I see they got a bit more offering than CIMB Clicks, but CIMB Clicks already offer all that I want. Except for narrow focus BRIC or Brazil funds...both also don't have!
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so know this is not the fault of the platforms but rather our government initiative to "protect" or something along that lines. hence why we have a quarter of the funds available to Singaporeans.

Anyways gooooooood morning brothers! anyone doing some last minutes new years week shopping or everyone is waiting for next year to start toping up?
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 10:02 PM)
So usually Unit Trust is T+how many days? T+3 or more?

Eastspring Emerging Market invests in more diverse markets (includes Mexico, Hungary, Chile etc)... BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) or Advantage Brazil invest in narrower markets.
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Yeah. Well if you want those specific one, then you have no choice but to open a account with SG UT broker.

QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 10:03 PM)
Atm I don't got an account with them. I see they got a bit more offering than CIMB Clicks, but CIMB Clicks already offer all that I want. Except for narrow focus BRIC or Brazil funds...both also don't have!
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You don't need to have account. Just say la planning to open open account. Use their service for free. That's nothing mention at FSM MY that those email/live chat is exclusively for FSM user.

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 27 2016, 08:47 AM)
so know this is not the fault of the platforms but rather our government initiative to "protect" or something along that lines. hence why we have a quarter of the funds available to Singaporeans.

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Actually I don't think so. It is half right. Malaysian are used to agents, Public Mutual so agent do everything. While in Singapore, they are taught to invest from young. We have to learn on ourself.

Another reason, Malaysia is not best buddies with US. So no foreign fund house want to set up house on Malaysia (this I think is the main reason).

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 10:03 PM)
Atm I don't got an account with them. I see they got a bit more offering than CIMB Clicks, but CIMB Clicks already offer all that I want. Except for narrow focus BRIC or Brazil funds...both also don't have!
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You don't have to have an account with them to email them or use the live chat. They will answer you even if you don't have an account.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 27 2016, 08:47 AM)
so know this is not the fault of the platforms but rather our government initiative to "protect" or something along that lines. hence why we have a quarter of the funds available to Singaporeans.

Anyways gooooooood morning brothers! anyone doing some last minutes new years week shopping or everyone is waiting for next year to start toping up?
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Rebalancing now, just completed next year's portfolio smile.gif

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 26 2016, 10:03 PM)
Atm I don't got an account with them. I see they got a bit more offering than CIMB Clicks, but CIMB Clicks already offer all that I want. Except for narrow focus BRIC or Brazil funds...both also don't have!
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BRIC is a weird focus anyway smile.gif it's not narrow and it's not wide smile.gif


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 27 2016, 10:07 AM)
Rebalancing now, just completed next year's portfolio smile.gif
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mind to share next year's portfolio buddy?
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mind to share next year's portfolio buddy?
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Probably wouldn't be right, I wouldn't mind but it's not my money smile.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 27 2016, 11:37 AM)
Probably wouldn't be right, I wouldn't mind but it's not my money smile.gif
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lol either wife's one or family but not asking how much is in the portfolio but the allocation into what fund bro. lol
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KUALA LUMPUR: Eastspring Investments Bhd has declared income distributions ranging from 2.72 sen to 4.44 sen for three of its existing funds.

In a statement Tuesday, Eastspring said the three funds are Eastspring Investments Small-cap Fund, Eastspring Investments Balanced Fund and Eastspring Investments Bond Fund.

For the Eastspring Investments Small-cap Fund, it declared a gross distribution rate of 3.38 sen or dividend yield of 5% as at Nov 15, 2016. For the Eastspring Investments Balanced Fund, it was 4.44 sen or 4.5% dividend yield. As for the Eastspring Investments Bond Fund, it declared 2.72 sen gross income distribution.

Eastspring said all unit holders who have maintained their unit holdings in the funds as at Dec 23, 2016 will be entitled to the income distribution.

Note to all eastspring investors.
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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundinfo/topFunds.svdo

Wow, shortly since Affin Hwang Select Bond made available for purchase on FSM it made it on the top volume list. There must be some serious HNWI here. For sure that person is not me because I'm switching gradually

And this is why FSM needs to quietly stalk this thread thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 27 2016, 05:48 PM)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundinfo/topFunds.svdo

Wow, shortly since Affin Hwang Select Bond made available for purchase on FSM it made it on the top volume list. There must be some serious HNWI here. For sure that person is not me because I'm switching gradually

And this is why FSM needs to quietly stalk this thread  thumbsup.gif
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Manulife India did not even appear there. FSM fund choice ? blink.gif

This is volume due to buy, or both buy and sell ?

If both, then some of these are people switching out.
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Guys, need some advice. Early this yr I invested in cimb global titans. Just minimal amt of 500. Now, it has grown up with 15% returns. What shd i do? Should i sell it off? I believe it will go back down one day... Need some advice what to do... Just keep or sell it? Or buy more? I don't have urgent need for the money but if i sell i will buy other funds. Thanks

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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Dec 27 2016, 07:31 PM)
Guys, need some advice. Early this yr I invested in cimb global titans. Just minimal amt of 500. Now, it has grown up with 15% returns. What shd i do? Should i sell it off? I believe it will go back down one day... Need some advice what to do...  Just keep or sell it? Or buy more? I don't have urgent need for the money but if i sell i will buy other funds. Thanks
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so you plan to sell it off just because of 75myr invested within a year? I would highly not recommend doing so as it will appreciate further next year. please look into the definition of capital appreciation and compounding interest

my advice is for you to start building up your portfolio with other funds with money that you don't need. 75myr won't get you anything bro.

also when you purchased the fund you were charged a sales fee of 2%. so in retrospect if you were to sell it and buy another fund you will be charged another 2% so in total your 15% has become 11% so your total return is just 55myr

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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Dec 27 2016, 07:31 PM)
Guys, need some advice. Early this yr I invested in cimb global titans. Just minimal amt of 500. Now, it has grown up with 15% returns. What shd i do? Should i sell it off? I believe it will go back down one day... Need some advice what to do...  Just keep or sell it? Or buy more? I don't have urgent need for the money but if i sell i will buy other funds. Thanks
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CIMB Global Titans will unlikely yield negative returns unless the entire global economy tanks. There is uncertainty about US large caps, but EU large caps are predicted to do well and as are Japanese. The Global Titan fund is well diversified. If I were you, I would leave the RM500 invested in there for as long as you don't require the funds. Let the power of Compound Interest work its magic. At 15% your money will double up within 5 years you invested it.
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Guys, I need a very basic explanation as to which day prices are used when doing the following:

1) Buying

2) Switching

3) Selling

So for example, I put in orders for buy/sell/switch last Friday night (23 Dec). Can you give me an overview as to which day prices will I be "charged" for my purchase, how the switching would work, and which day prices will I be given for a redemption?

Thanks!

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