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sirius2017
post Jul 13 2023, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jul 13 2023, 07:51 AM)
No it's not a trap.

Think about it like this, the money in the joint account belongs to two persons equally. Let's say one of them (A) died and bank was notified, legally half of the money in the joint account belongs to A's next of kin, not B. So bank cannot simply let B withdraw the money inside, must wait for the probate/LOA to proceed. To get the probate/LOA need to pay some fee but it's pay to other parties (court/amanah raya/land office), not to the bank.
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Some banks now include "survivorship clause" in their TnC. In the event of death of one of the joint account holders, the surviving joint account holder is entitled to the monies in the joint account. Bank will pay the account balance to the surviving account holder(s) and Bank is indemnified against any proceeding, claims etc.
So if you have joint-account in these banks, the surviving party will get account balance.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4154481/+27768

Some of the Banks TnC
https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Banking/pbeFD001eng.aspx
Public Bank
Joint Account
8.1 We, the account holders agree that in the event of the demise of one account holder, the Bank is authorised to pay the
balance standing to the credit of this account to the survivor(s) and such payment shall constitute a valid discharge by the
Bank of the amount due in this account.
We jointly and severally agree to indemnify the Bank and keep the Bank indemnified at all times from and against any
proceedings, claims, losses, damages, penalties, charges, costs and expenses brought against or suffered or incurred by
the Bank as a result of the release of the credit balance in the account to the surviving account holder.

https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Help_and...ort/ocbc_en.pdf
OCBC
8.2 Upon notice of death of any one or more of the joint accountholders, the Bank shall be entitled
to pay the deposit, credit balance or investment, as the case may be, to the survivor and if more
than one survivor in their joint names. The Bank is authorised to set-off the indebtedness of any
of the joint accountholders under any account with the Bank .The Bank may permit the surviving
accountholder(s) to continue to operate the Account subject to terms and conditions
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post Jul 13 2023, 09:41 AM

 
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QUOTE(sirius2017 @ Jul 13 2023, 09:35 AM)
Some banks now include "survivorship clause" in their TnC. In the event of death of one of the joint account holders, the surviving joint account holder is entitled to the monies in the joint account. Bank will pay the account balance to the surviving account holder(s) and Bank is indemnified against any proceeding, claims etc.
So if you have joint-account in these banks, the surviving party will get account balance.
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Yes, I'm specifically referring to his inquiry that when the bank don't allow any withdrawal without probate/LOA.
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post Jul 13 2023, 10:03 AM

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RHB TnC for joint account holders are more specific in the event of death of one of the joint account holder.
Different for All to sign or either to sign.

If either to sign, SOP is the same. If joint-account is jointly operated by the account holders (All to Sign), then bank will freeze the account and surviving account holder need to get probate/LOA to proceed.

https://www.rhbgroup.com/general-info/pdf/account-terms.pdf



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post Jul 13 2023, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jul 13 2023, 07:51 AM)
No it's not a trap.

Think about it like this, the money in the joint account belongs to two persons equally. Let's say one of them (A) died and bank was notified, legally half of the money in the joint account belongs to A's next of kin, not B. So bank cannot simply let B withdraw the money inside, must wait for the probate/LOA to proceed. To get the probate/LOA need to pay some fee but it's pay to other parties (court/amanah raya/land office), not to the bank.
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thanks. TIL.

I say it is a trap because for me it is.. Bolded part is not the intention of opening the joint account. As money is solely mine, but opened joint account (all to sign actually) for the purposes of "responsibly" managing the money and not spending it as i like..

If based on bolded part, say if i joint account with my parent, does that mean upon my parent death, the next of kin which say would be other parent/siblings can get their hands on the cookie jar?

Well mine is all to sign anyway, did recently thought of changing it to either to sign.. But upon learning this, i guess both types would still end up having to go through legal process to claim the money if one of the party died. Guess I have to rethink all this, probably from next fd move it to sole account.


QUOTE(sirius2017 @ Jul 13 2023, 09:35 AM)
Some banks now include "survivorship clause" in their TnC. In the event of death of one of the joint account holders, the surviving joint account holder is entitled to the monies in the joint account. Bank will pay the account balance to the surviving account holder(s) and Bank is indemnified against any proceeding, claims etc.
So if you have joint-account in these banks, the surviving party will get account balance.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4154481/+27768
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do you know about BI? whether they have any such clauses? cause recently placed with BI
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post Jul 13 2023, 12:33 PM

 
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jul 13 2023, 12:23 PM)
thanks. TIL.

I say it is a trap because for me it is.. Bolded part is not the intention of opening the joint account. As money is solely mine, but opened joint account (all to sign actually) for the purposes of "responsibly" managing the money and not spending it as i like..

If based on bolded part, say if i joint account with my parent, does that mean upon my parent death, the next of kin which say would be other parent/siblings can get their hands on the cookie jar?

Well mine is all to sign anyway, did recently thought of changing it to either to sign.. But upon learning this, i guess both types would still end up having to go through legal process to claim the money if one of the party died. Guess I have to rethink all this, probably from next fd move it to sole account.
do you know about BI? whether they have any such clauses? cause recently placed with BI
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If there's no survivorship clause, yes legally the next of kin are entitled to the money. The executor/administrator has to distribute the money according to the will/distribution act. Hopefully the other parent/siblings won't "telan" your money.

Best to check with BI directly if they have this clause.

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post Jul 13 2023, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jul 13 2023, 12:23 PM)

do you know about BI? whether they have any such clauses? cause recently placed with BI
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From BI website, TnC effective 19/1/23...

https://www.bankislam.com/wp-content/upload...TC-23122022.pdf

As suggested, can get further clarification with BI on the exact SOP. I remember some posts back, someone mentions need to bring death certificate to the branch etc.


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post Jul 14 2023, 11:05 AM

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📣 Earn up to 4.00% p.a. with e-Islamic Fixed Deposit-i 📣

Exclusively for Maybank customers! Make a min. RM1,000 placement from other banks via FPX from 14 July till 8 August 2023 (or until campaign limit is reached).

Follow these steps to make a transfer now:

1️⃣ Log in to Maybank2u web and go to ‘APPLY’
2️⃣ Under ‘Fixed Deposit’, click ‘APPLY NOW’
3️⃣ Select ‘Islamic Fixed Deposit’ then select account to place funds from
4️⃣ Select ‘7 months’ tenure, enter the minimum transfer and select ‘Credit to account’
5️⃣ Authorise via Secure2u on MAE and you’re done!

🔴 Important notes

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👉🏻 Must enter the min. placement amount as the principal amount
👉🏻 Must select ‘Credit-to-account’ as the profit payment mode
👉🏻 Offer is available until placements reach the campaign limit, on a first-come, first-served basis

Maybank Islamic Berhad is a member of PIDM. eIFD-i is protected by PIDM up to RM250,000 for each depositor.

T&C apply.

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post Jul 14 2023, 12:59 PM

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MBB any guarantee money does not go missing?
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:34 PM

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Maybank 7 months Islamic fd @ 4%, fund must from fpx
July 14 - Aug 8
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(download88 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:34 PM)
Maybank 7 months Islamic fd @ 4%, fund must from fpx
July 14 - Aug 8
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with the fpx failure cases reported, make me think twice with MBB FD via FPX sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fabu8238 @ Jul 14 2023, 12:59 PM)
MBB any guarantee money does not go missing?
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PIDM up to RM250k
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QUOTE(fabu8238 @ Jul 14 2023, 12:59 PM)
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Don't click any links & fill up your banking details 😏
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QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 14 2023, 11:05 AM)
📣 Earn up to 4.00% p.a. with e-Islamic Fixed Deposit-i 📣

Exclusively for Maybank customers! Make a min. RM1,000 placement from other banks via FPX from 14 July till 8 August 2023 (or until campaign limit is reached).

Follow these steps to make a transfer now:

1️⃣ Log in to Maybank2u web and go to ‘APPLY’
2️⃣ Under ‘Fixed Deposit’, click ‘APPLY NOW’
3️⃣ Select ‘Islamic Fixed Deposit’ then select account to place funds from
4️⃣ Select ‘7 months’ tenure, enter the minimum transfer and select ‘Credit to account’
5️⃣ Authorise via Secure2u on MAE and you’re done!

🔴 Important notes

👉🏻 This is an online-only offer
👉🏻 Must enter the min. placement amount as the principal amount
👉🏻 Must select ‘Credit-to-account’ as the profit payment mode
👉🏻 Offer is available until placements reach the campaign limit, on a first-come, first-served basis

Maybank Islamic Berhad is a member of PIDM. eIFD-i is protected by PIDM up to RM250,000 for each depositor.

T&C apply.
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I can only select fund from Maybank, not other banks.
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post Jul 14 2023, 02:24 PM

 
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Jul 14 2023, 01:40 PM)
with the fpx failure cases reported, make me think twice with MBB FD via FPX  sweat.gif
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What happened to those cases? All solved?
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post Jul 14 2023, 02:27 PM

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I had done a small placement this morning for MBB eFD 4% 7mth via FPX using desktop.
1st time MBB eFD placement via FPX, wary of previous reports of possible problem - process not complete successfully but fund already debited from the other bank etc.

Placement process went smoothly. Intend to do more placements next few days when FD matured in other bank.
Probably do multiple smaller placement amount rather than 1 big placement just in case system encounter problem.

MBB eFD placement allow option of not auto-renewal on maturity, so that will save the hassle of having to redeem multiple FDs on maturity.


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What happened to those cases? All solved?
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should be solved by now... just that ur money will stuck elsewhere n u lose ur daily interest while waiting for refund...
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QUOTE(sirius2017 @ Jul 14 2023, 02:27 PM)
I had done a small placement this morning for MBB eFD 4% 7mth via FPX using desktop.
1st time MBB eFD placement via FPX, wary of previous reports of possible problem - process not complete successfully but fund already debited from the other bank etc.

Placement process went smoothly. Intend to do more placements next few days when FD matured in other bank.
Probably do multiple smaller placement amount rather than 1 big placement just in case system encounter problem.

MBB eFD placement allow option of not auto-renewal on maturity, so that will save the hassle of having to redeem multiple FDs on maturity.
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When can you view your e certificate? Mine was not shown up.
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QUOTE(jenern84 @ Jul 14 2023, 02:45 PM)
When can you view your e certificate? Mine was not shown up.
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Ya, mine did not shown up immediately after placement. But after I log off and log back, there was a Fixed Deposit tab where I can view my eFD biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(download88 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:34 PM)
Maybank 7 months Islamic fd @ 4%, fund must from fpx
July 14 - Aug 8
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Thanks for info.

Manage to place with the promo rate, just very slow on certain stage, not sure is due to lot of people grab.
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post Jul 14 2023, 03:39 PM

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I heard icbc fd rate 4.3% for 12 months until Oct 23, but can't find any more info from their websites, does anyone knows of this offer?

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