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Hansel
post Jan 13 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 13 2017, 06:26 PM)
Singapore is unique as it's the only country in the world which has an explicit monetary policy to revalue SGD against its trading partners, primarily to control for inflation. As almost everything in Singapore is imported, it makes sense for them to have this kind of policy. Without a doubt, in the long run, SGD would gradually appreciate against MYR, breaching RM3.5 or even RM4. But how long would it take? 5 year, 10 year? Nobody knows for sure. In the short term, SGD would continue to fluctuate against the MYR.
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Then from the above sentence in bold,.. it is good enough to have some funds in the SGD ! Short term fluctuations is not a problem !
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post Jan 13 2017, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 13 2017, 06:27 PM)
Money changer only have currencies for foreign workers? You are staying at Selayang Baru? laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Bro,... you are funny,......

Bro Ramjade,... where are you actually based ? You 'keep dodging' this matter,...
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post Jan 13 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 13 2017, 06:52 PM)
Malaysia’s central bank will consider introducing more measures to stabilize the ringgit if needed as previous steps to reduce speculation of the currency show progress, Governor Muhammad Ibrahim said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...nggit-if-needed

Means bnm expect Myr to depreciate further.
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"reduce speculation of the currency"

is that part of a blame game on a created fictitious enemy?

WHO is speculating the RM?

how can anyone do that in a meaningful way when it is not traded offshore like other currencies?

or foreign investors selling bursa and mgs are "speculators"?

or anyone selling RM to convert to other currencies for whatever purpose but complying with new rules are "speculators"?

i wish somebody can explain who is speculating, how much and how!

and why doesn't any of the top guns want to talk about the root reasons for lack of confidence?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 13 2017, 08:01 PM
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post Jan 13 2017, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 13 2017, 07:56 PM)
"reduce speculation of the currency"

is that part of a blame game on a created fictitious enemy?

WHO is speculating the RM?

how can anyone do that in a meaningful way when it is not traded offshore like other currencies?

or foreign investors selling bursa and mgs are "speculators"?

or anyone selling RM to convert to other currencies for whatever purpose but complying with new rules are "speculators"?

i wish somebody can explain who is speculating, how much and how!

and why doesn't any of the top guns want to talk about the root reasons for lack of confidence?
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I wonder when are they going to reach down to public converting own funds to foreign currencies,...
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post Jan 13 2017, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 13 2017, 11:11 PM)
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I wonder when are they going to reach down to public converting own funds to foreign currencies,...
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I believed soon if more people continue to change. Well they can always reduce the amount people can change per day. Right now it's at RM50k. They can change it to RM30k, then RM10k, then...

Already anything above RM3k needs IC.

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post Jan 14 2017, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 13 2017, 11:11 PM)
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I wonder when are they going to reach down to public converting own funds to foreign currencies,...
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on this, do read what turkey is doing for its lira now.

the lira lost 17% in 2016 and another 10% in first 2 weeks of 2017.

crisis of confidence - terror, low reserves, people keeping fx under their pillows, etc.

like here, very reluctant to raise int rates but did so in nov 2016, not much help.

now, tightening liquidity, raising interbank borrowing costs, expected to raise rates again soon.

but i have not read anything about capital controls, stopping people from changing money.

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post Jan 14 2017, 08:50 AM

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turkey still wants to join the eu....if they even hint at capital controls, there goes their chance for another couple of decades...
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post Jan 14 2017, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 01:47 PM)
I have to buy SGD if I want to start investing in SG market. Can't just let my money sit inside the Maybank earning only 3.55% pa
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Then is just a question of investing return > negative differential in MYR:SGD between transaction and pre/post transaction hmm.gif
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post Jan 14 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 13 2017, 01:51 PM)
if u look at SGD/AUD over the last 5 years, they were at parity many times last year.

sg almost fell into recession but rebounded fast, less need for MAS to recalibrate the FX band/slope.

if the economy picks up nicely this year, foreign funds will go back in.

we will then see 3.3x with the RM, like the AUD.
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PERSONALLY I think SGD will test the 3.3 region towards the end 2017 hmm.gif
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post Jan 14 2017, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 13 2017, 06:26 PM)
Singapore is unique as it's the only country in the world which has an explicit monetary policy to revalue SGD against its trading partners, primarily to control for inflation. As almost everything in Singapore is imported, it makes sense for them to have this kind of policy. Without a doubt, in the long run, SGD would gradually appreciate against MYR, breaching RM3.5 or even RM4. But how long would it take? 5 year, 10 year? Nobody knows for sure. In the short term, SGD would continue to fluctuate against the MYR.
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PERSONALLY I think 3.5 region is possible next year hmm.gif
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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 14 2017, 10:15 AM)
MYR/SGD depreciated from 1 to 3 over the last 20+ years, it is a matter of time will reach 3.3, 3.5, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0.
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in fact, has history shown any currency appreciate back by that much? who knows some day it will be back to 1 to 1. lol
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post Jan 14 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 14 2017, 10:15 AM)
MYR/SGD depreciated from 1 to 3 over the last 20+ years, it is a matter of time will reach 3.3, 3.5, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0.
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the rm/sgd rout sharpened in 2015 and continued in 2016, in tandem with rm/usd.
but yes, the direction has been same and clear for last 10 years.

QUOTE(kopifan @ Jan 14 2017, 09:17 AM)
Then is just a question of investing return > negative differential in MYR:SGD between transaction and pre/post transaction  hmm.gif
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of course.
compare 6% pa roi in sgd with 4% in rm.
with sgd/rm gaining 7-8% a year.
this is not fictitious, been like that for last 2-3 years for certain types of inv.
many people here did that going back 1, 2, 5 years ago.

it is futile to try to guess what the ex rates will be.
but good enough to come to a conclusion about the DIRECTION from this point.
for yrself and hence yr actions.
if no action, it's just academic, for fun, for forum talk only.

some thoughts on the future direction...
.. what root causes in last 2 years?
.. will these root causes u-turn and reverse?
.. are major things being done to reverse the trend or same or more of the same?
.. are the same people still in charge doing the same things going in the same direction?
.. never mind the local experts - they always say what is politically correct.

it is simply not possible in a capitalist model for a currency to strengthen on its own while the internal resources are not put to good use but wasted, leaked or vanished - over decades.
if it is possible, there will be no poor nations, no poor people on the planet.

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:06 AM)
How realistic is your wish?
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totally unrealistic. lol.
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post Jan 14 2017, 12:34 PM

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well...in the 70's it was >400yen to the usd.....now it hovers around 100yen....

japan can....
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post Jan 14 2017, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 14 2017, 10:15 AM)
MYR/SGD depreciated from 1 to 3 over the last 20+ years, it is a matter of time will reach 3.3, 3.5, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0.
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PERSONALLY I will watch out for 3.5 region first. 4 a bit out of my time radar hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 13 2017, 06:49 PM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif Bro,... you are funny,......

Bro Ramjade,... where are you actually based ? You 'keep dodging' this matter,...
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If not mistaken he stay around Klang area there devil.gif
U know now got a lot foreigner population in town area..
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post Jan 14 2017, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 14 2017, 03:52 PM)
The ringgit is likely to improve to 4.40 level against the US dollar next week as sentiment towards the local note has started to improved, a dealer said.

Affin Hwang Investment Bank vice-president/head of retail research Nazri Khan Adam Khan, said Malaysia's strong economic fundamentals and the higher crude oil and commodity prices would continue to support the ringgit.

"Better trade data from China in terms of higher imports can potentially translate into better exports for Malaysia, thus boosting the ringgit recovery," said Nazri Khan to Bernama.

http://m.malaysiakini.com/news/369221
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Again... another round of 'promising' statement in the hope of improving the Rm. Hopefully it does happen rather than 'cakap kosong'.
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post Jan 14 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 14 2017, 06:08 PM)
Again... another round of 'promising' statement in the hope of improving the Rm. Hopefully it does happen rather than 'cakap kosong'.
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since when did a local expert has said otherwise?! biggrin.gif

it is never a straight line but with ups and downs.

impt thing is whether it is directionally up or down - from this point - and why.

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post Jan 15 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 14 2017, 08:50 AM)
turkey still wants to join the eu....if they even hint at capital controls, there goes their chance for another couple of decades...
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doubt they will be accepted after the failed coup. it sounds like another failed arab states than european country
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:05 PM

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Morning..
USD $4.45 today

AUD $3.35

SGD $3.119

Looks like SGD going to match AUD soon while RM takes a forever plunge. bangwall.gif

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