im referring to his 4k tv input lag. i believe 30 ms is quite good already for 4k gaming tv.
Yup you are correct the input lag may differ between resolution.

which shop can get it before march ?

for the past month i saw saveallstore and hwa ching keep getting new stock. u should ask them.

both selling rm1900, hwa ching accept pre order with rm1k deposit while saveallstore direct buy once stock arrived.

Not trying to be a dick, but people need to stop accepting that "30ms is good". 30ms IS NOT good. 30ms is barely acceptable, it's no where near "GOOD".

Good is below 20ms.
Great is below 10ms.
Perfection is CRT, which is counted in nanoseconds.

If everyone just accepts that "30 is good", then TV manufacturers don't have reason to continue working on their input lag with their TVs. We're finally getting the next breakthrough in display tech, but let's not be lenient with barely acceptable benchmarks.

I think it's good that you're passionate about it, it's the same reason why I don't say the Pro is a must-buy because there's just so many ifs, ands or buts to get it to work at it's optimal "best" performance. If I wanted to mess with the settings and go through pages and pages of research to get the optimum performance, I would just get a PC. But the point of a console is not to be asking does this work with this or does this work with that. Plug and play, enuff said.

Actually im eyeing on LG entry level 4k 49UH610t

Price is fairly cheap as compare to other brands. Would like to give it a try.

I dun think the shop can let me try with games Tat is the problem luuuu

Too bad, the shop must never have learnt the fact that if a customer is able to hold onto the product they are more likely to purchase.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 17 2017, 05:48 PM

Some confusion here?

I'm not talking about the Pro, I'm talking about input lag in general. This has to do with gaming entirely, not just a console. You think monitors don't suffer from high input lag? That's not true at all. Many of those gaudy "gaming monitors" has input lag above 10ms, which is bad for mouse movements. On a controller, that can be a bit more lenient as majority of console games has some sort of movement, aim and input assist to reduce the jarring gap of a high latency display.

Whether you get a PC or a console, at the end of the day the input lag is the final door between the player and the game for interactivity.

My point is, people need to be more aware of these subpar input lag practices being marketed as "AWESOME or GOOOOOD!" and then accepting that something as low as 30ms being enough. All of us need to keep pushing TV manufacturers to wake up and put serious thought into input lag.

I'm not confused, I'm just making an analogy. But if you felt I was confused and did not help to accentuate your point, then I apologize.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 17 2017, 05:52 PM

No apology needed. I think your analogy is a bit off then:




While devs can reduce the game's raw input lag, displays are entirely out of everyone's hands except the manufacturer's and firmware coders. It's 2017, it's been 12 years since the death of CRTs. Flat panel displays should have already be at a stage where input lag shouldn't be discussed anymore.

It's not wrong to have a plug and play device into a display that has equally low input lag to have the best gaming experience.

hi. i got question here.
as far as i know, ps4 cant set master volume for games, blu rays.
im using hdmi to the tv, and i got receiver with optical out.
how to setup so i can use the tv to control the volume?

how about this
i have psn acc mlysia which im using as primary acc (my psn plus is in this acc)
but i have another 2nd acc which is im using for gaming(my main psn id) and i have something i wanna buy using this acc (in game items, not items from ps store),
can i topup money in ps store using the 1st acc and buy it using 2nd acc??
or i can just topup money to 2nd acc and just buy it?


im not sure which country my 2nd acc is (i think its mlysia) the item i want to buy is in myr in that game using 2nd acc
iinm i did try to topup ps plus using this acc but i can't, need to use 1st acc for some reason..maybe bcause i didnt set it as primary acc? or invalid email, that email i just use i put @bhjsjsh.com something like that

Hey guys, wta that is the ps4 luna edition bundle come with a free dlc ff15 theme?

I bought it last 2 weeks, but the bundle didn't include the dlc theme.

I am not sure whether is it missing or the ff15 standard version doesn't come with a dlc theme.

If u are interested i have the exact model to let go. PM me

Im questioning the same thing. My luna edition dont have the dlc theme as well.

i think the theme is for people that buy the "Digital" Deluxe Edition only on psn for Rm359

Anyone having problem getting 2 steps verification code? Just changed my password and now I'm not getting any codes to my mobile phone at all.

Is your luna ps4 standard version as well?

Not the big bang theme, but this FF15 Theme

Other than standard version got other version??