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 PlayStation 4™ Community Official Thread | V15, PlayStation 4™ Pro AVAILABLE NOW

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SSJBen
post Dec 1 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 1 2016, 11:46 AM)
if hdmi 2.0..wont support hdr bro..it must be hdmi 2.0a... but like i said, nowadays new cable should support 4k hdr, i just bought a rm30 hdmi cable..plug into my 4k hdr tv.. my ps4 pro can output 4k hdr video...

if u r talking about ports yet..it is different, ps4 pro comes with hdmi 2.0a port while the old one is 1.4b i think..
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Common misconception.

All standard HDMI cables are built the same actually. A HDMI cable that came out in 2007 can transport 4k signals with HDR as long as its of sufficient gauge to maintain the distance the signal has to travel. You just need to make sure the cable is a high speed full bandwidth cable.

The difference in HDMI compatibility is at the ports, not the cable. Most people do not know this, which is why the exotic HDMI cable market is so lucrative.
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post Dec 1 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 1 2016, 12:02 PM)
the annoying problem ps4 pro owners has if they have a VR headset .. must bypass the VR box to play any HDR 4k games..

I have to switch cables everytime i want to switch between VR and normal gaming..
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Yes it's a silly design flaw. But fortunately I have a receiver with dual HDMI outputs, so I got around this issue pretty easily.

PS4 Pro > Receiver > HDMI 2.0a input > HDMI 1 out to TV > HDMI 2 out to PSVR box.

All I need to do is switch between the HDMI outputs on my remote depending on what I'm playing. Certainly a million times more convenient than changing cables.

Also understand that the HDMI port is very easy to damage and it has a very low certified number of times (around 300) it can connect/disconnect before it starts to fail. So please know that changing cables each time is not a permanent solution, either your PS4 or PSVR HDMI port will fail in due time.

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Dec 1 2016, 02:18 PM)
thanks for clarification.
so the bundled hdmi cable should be sufficient, no need invest in those premium expensive cable?
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No, not unless you need to do a long run. The cable is just within enough for 4k HDR, 8 bit with chroma 4:4:4 but only within its length. If Sony were to include the same exact cable but with a longer length, then it will be trouble.
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post Dec 1 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 1 2016, 02:22 PM)
Thanks for the idea bro, my receiver have dual hdmi outputs too..never tot about that..
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No problem.

Now my next problem is how am I going to have separate signals for a projector and TV. Don't want to use a splitter/switch because they add unnecessary latency.

Gahd damn sony.
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post Dec 1 2016, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Dec 1 2016, 04:47 PM)
Anyone here using custom scuf controllers ?
I placed an order for the infinity PS4 controller a few days ago.
Things have been moving slowly so I decided to read a few Reddit threads.

And holy crap....
The controller takes a long time to be delivered.
Plus they are known to be defective with bad customer service.

As one controller cost 3 times the price of a regular controller, it's not cheap....

Anyone with here experience with A scuf before ?
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Was sponsored one last year. It was good while it lasted.... like 4 months lol. Heck, it showed signs of breaking after 1 month+. I already knew I had a bad piece as right out of the box, all the joints were squeaking and the shoulder buttons were getting stuck (L1/R1) with just a few rapid presses.
A month later, the right analog started to drift and while it wasn't a common occurrence, it has more than enough times screw up a lined up headshot on my end. Then when it came to the month where it died, the battery gave out first (which was a simple fix for me though), but more importantly the bluetooth started to go haywire and will frequently disconnect for absolutely ZERO reason. It was also at this time the shoulder buttons were completely fcked, it will stick 90% of the time and my R2 button will often cease to register an input.


The built quality of SCUF is basically hit and miss, but more often than not it's a miss. I personally know someone who has had their SCUF inifnity since 2014 and it's still working like a champ until today. But me personally, lol - Yeah SCUF should be renamed SUCK.

Took money out of my own pocket and customized another DS4 from Battle Beaver instead. Ended up to be cheaper, better build quality and it still works absolutely fine with zero issues until today, 7 months later.

CinchGaming and SHARQ are good alternatives too btw.

SCUF is great as long as you are willing to roll the dice, hope you get a good piece and really, really hope it stays alive for longer than a year.


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Phone typing is stupid. The amount of typos. doh.gif

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Dec 1 2016, 08:27 PM)
Thanks for sharing.
Yeah. I guess it's just horrible... most of the time.

Will try to cancel my order and get BB
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Check out Cinchgaming too. Heard lots of good things about them. Their customer service is top notch as well.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Dec 1 2016, 08:51 PM)
i've never heard of those three brands before.ever.
all i ever hear are scuf controllers sweat.gif
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Yes. It's just like there are a lot more to smartphones than just apple and samsung.

There's a reason why good custom products aren't well known. They spend the money on the build quality and crasftmanship, not e-peen advertising.
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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Dec 1 2016, 09:23 PM)
I had the same experience of sticking shoulder buttons. It is a easy fix, open up the controller put silicon grease on the connecting joints and clean any dust stuck there.

After I did that it was like new. When I opened it I noticed originally it had grease already there but has dried up and clumped up with dust.
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I've fixed a fair share of sticky shoulder buttons. But the one on my scuf was related to the button stands not being machined properly. Regardless, other issues prevent me from using the controller long term.

When it works though, it's great. Functionality wise, it beats the BB I currently have. Too bad it isn't reliable which is the second most important factor for me in a controller.
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post Dec 2 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Dec 2 2016, 02:45 PM)
I've tried googling and setup my ps4 like this below for my Dell S2340l full HD monitor & Hyperx cloud core headset

1. Audio output: Linear PCM
2. Video output: 1080p
3. RGB: Full
4. Preset mode: Movie

Anything I missed out? I listened to Spotify with iPhone & I could notice the improvements compared to stock earbuds but didn't notice much when playing games in ps4.  hmm.gif 

Disclaimer: I'm not an audiophile
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Looks fine.

Only thing I would check in your shoes is to make sure your monitor is also set to the "Full" RGB color range to match the PS4. Otherwise you will end up with washed-out images or black crush.
Don't ask how to check, read your monitor's manual.
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post Dec 5 2016, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Dec 5 2016, 01:58 AM)
Guys a very noob question, do you have any good TV model to suggest for PS4 gaming. i am not talking about those 4k HDR model. Just a budget model for Full HD 1080p gaming with low input lag and maybe high refresh rate.

Budget 1k-1.2k ( i see a lot of good deal in 11 street but i dunno which one is suitable for console gaming)

Brand- open to suggestion but i heard some model is quite ok ? Sony? Samsung?
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Sorry to say, but you missed the golden years of 1080p TVs (2013-2014). The 1080p TVs on the market now a days are quite rubbish, the highest end 1080p TV is equivalent to an entry level 1080p TV just 3 years ago.

If input lag is your concern, just get a monitor instead. You end up with better image quality and power input lag, at the cost of size.
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post Dec 5 2016, 02:42 PM

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Then get a TV WHEN you move to the new place. Buying a 1080p TV now will only mean 2 things for you in the near future:

1) Throw it away.
2) Sell it and buy a new TV.

You'll end up getting a new TV either ways, so just wait.
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QUOTE(wkn @ Dec 5 2016, 02:43 PM)
Who told you the info about the stock? Was it a chinese guy or one of the malay staff there?

Everytime I ask the staff about the stock availability, they always say "We don't know".  vmad.gif
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When you want to ask about stock availability, you talk with the sales or marketing manager directly. Don't go and ask the floor sales person, they are told to say "don't know".
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post Dec 7 2016, 09:20 PM

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Hold your wallets guys.

Big fat rumor going around that Sony will finally debut their OLED consumer 4k TVs this CES 2017.

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Dec 10 2016, 05:55 PM)
get ur facts right bro

not everyone gaming esport or fps

console fps always not a good choice

input lag ? u cant even aim properly with controller
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Lelz at you telling people to "get their facts right" and then say "u cant even aim properly with controller".
Like wow, perhaps you weren't born with thumbs but stop the hyperbole here please. Whether one plays fps games on a console or not is an entirely different topic.

It's like saying badminton are just for people with short legs and real atheletes play tennis instead, which is where all the money is. That's stupid sounding isn't it?
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Dec 10 2016, 08:12 PM)
meaning they already bear with the controller disadvantage
why bother the hard to notice input lag????

55 inch high res tv has far too many advantage over a 27inch screen

we are not talking about pc gaming here

wireless controller
aircond
sofa
ultra big screen( i gaming on 180inch screen, epson full hd home cinema)
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What people choose to play on, that's their choice.

Uhm the only thing a 55" TV has over a 27" monitor (assuming both are high-end displays) is size. Monitors rake in below 5ms of input lag, the lowest input lag from a TV in 2016 is 19ms. You can argue that "haiya you all also not epsorts pros, why bother?", that's the a-typical hyperbole that I cannot understand. It's more fun when playing semi-competitively on a low input lag display, one doesn't need to be a pro to ENJOY that.

In this case, since I have an LG OLED E6 65 and an Asus PG279Q. I play Destiny on my monitor, I play FFXV on the TV. Who are you to tell me (or anyone) that playing Destiny (or any other game) on the monitor is pointless then?

Similarly, you like playing on an Epson projector which typically has over 90ms of input lag... well cool, that's up to you. No one's to say you shouldn't. But don't go around spewing bullshit that big TVs > high end monitors.

To each their own.
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post Dec 11 2016, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Dec 10 2016, 11:22 PM)
Tell me input lag on tv can slower than internet connection.

If u have a 0 lag screen
Play on internet multiplayer games, u input will b lag free?
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Internet connection you cannot control, unless your father is TM's CEO. But input lag is something anyone can take control of, simply by choosing the correct display for their needs. The point is to minimize as many negativity in regards to controls.

Once again, there are people like you who doesn't know/understand what high input lag does to the general control fluidity of games. Ignorance is bliss as many say, which in your case is exactly that.

Unfortunately, not everyone has the same blissful ignorance as you... so, sucks to be us. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Dec 12 2016, 03:25 AM)
anyone have this problem (old ps4)

1: loud noise..especially when playing games like uncharted 4 (still ok to play right?)
2: turn on ps4 using controller but sometimes the tv/monitor screen stays black but the controller and ps4 console is turn on. dont think its a tv problem,happen to two tv models already, n btw happen to 2 different ps4 also
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1. It's okay. People need to stop being so paranoid over loud fan noise.
2. Sounds like HDCP handshake issue.
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Dec 13 2016, 04:08 AM)
what causing the hdcp and how to fix
didnt actually understand , they said need to buy splitter to fix?
my screen is blank(black) but there sound
my solution now is turnn off and on the ps4 but this happen frequently lately..so annoying
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HDCP handshake can be caused by a dozen of things. To long to list.

My suggestion is that you disable HDCP from the PS4's system settings. Then see how it goes.


QUOTE(Gravity @ Dec 13 2016, 05:04 PM)
OMG, PS4 Pro may delay till March...source from industry players....

GGWP Sony malaysia...GGWP
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I know this "source". The "March" date has always been the timeframe for the PS4 pro in SEA, for mainstream production at least. There will be PS4 Pros coming into MY over the next few months, but at a trickling rate.
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Dec 13 2016, 07:00 PM)
So should i wait till March? sad.gif
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Best action now is just to give your contact to Sony MY main stores (KLCC or The Curve/Mid Valley). Then hope they call you. There are no fixed amount of units they get each month at the moment. Like I said, the Pros are coming in at a trickling rate.

WHY though? There are a variety of reasons, some of which makes very little sense. Don't think that can be shared here though.
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QUOTE(drunkonpiss @ Dec 15 2016, 12:18 AM)
sorry bro, didn't mean it sad.gif But in all honesty, those of you who are using the OG PS4 are not missing a lot. The HDR is the difference maker in my opinion. But if i'm not mistaken, there is also HDR support for OG PS4. HDR>>>4K resolution IMHO.
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PS4 Pro with PSVR is a BIIIG difference maker to OG PS4 + PSVR. There's zero reason to play PSVR with the OG PS4 tbvh.

HDR is hit and miss. Depends on the TV, depends on how it is implemented. Honestly some games it is nice, some not so. XV is great, TLG is crap for example. Using an LG OLED E6 as reference here.

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