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 Scooters or motorcycles, which is better?

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ikengkai
post Dec 25 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 22 2016, 10:03 AM)
And don't go for Suzuki as well.. their principal close shop in Malaysia only Lion Suzuki as distributor now... even in Thai and Indon Suzuki not  mainstream brand...

However, Suzuki tend to build their engine tahan lasak...
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Okay, will not go for Suzuki. Most probably go for Honda Spacy or Honda BeAT, since the BeAT is new model. the BeAT got PGM-FI fuel injection. The spacy got DC CDI, but i not sure how benefit it for the engine.
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post Dec 26 2016, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 25 2016, 09:57 PM)
Okay, will not go for Suzuki. Most probably go for Honda Spacy or Honda BeAT, since the BeAT is new model. the BeAT got PGM-FI fuel injection. The spacy got DC CDI, but i not sure how benefit it for the engine.
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DC CDI is carburrated engine... similar like honda scoopy (in thai) and earlier mode of Beat..

In paper the FI version have slight fuel saving and no need to warm up during cold start.. (no choke).. but i might be wrong hahaa..
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post Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM

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I have PCX150, RM10 petrol last me one month. but then my office is only 5 minutes away.
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post Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Nov 29 2016, 02:34 PM)
if you want to buy nmax or pcx....plz consider the new modenas elegan...just topup sikit some money and get bigger cc scooter compare those 2....just rm13000, the cheapest 250cc new scooter in malaysia right now

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i myself a scoot rider....everyday ulang alik from rawang to putrajaya....lucky i'm using daelim s3 250cc....so quite jimat
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Ride that far daily? Salute you flex.gif


QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 12:07 AM)
Hi all scooter fellows here, I am interested to get a scooter, just for a convenient transport like go mini-market, or send kid to school in early morning (2-3km distant).
I am looking for <150cc scooter, anyway, previously cub user (honda 110cc cub), and feel want to switch to automatic.

A few concern, since the honda cub is super reliable and solid, after >15 years still work good and not much maintenance cost. Heard that scooter might need frequent change v-belt and cvt pulley stuff... Just worry after bought it will regret, any forum or page that could get more info on all those stuffs ?
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v-belt sets not that expensive (Yamaha). My Ego LC Fi, as stated in manual, need to change every 20k. My annual mileage only 6k. So it'll take years before I need to change it.

I still have my first scooter (Yamaha Nouvo first edition), pass it to my brother. Still kicking strong. Only the plastic cover faded.


QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 21 2016, 11:30 AM)
Cubchai definitely cheaper to maintain in the long run...

1. Scoot need to change the CVT parts.. Belt, Roller and Clutch  just its need different KM distance on those parts.
2. Engine oil will need to change with oil filter (compare to EX-5), and good quality of engine oil needed since Scoot with CVT will need to operate in higher RPM most of the time...
3. Those fat but small Tyre definitely more expensive than those cubchai rubber (unless you take the standard size 14 or 17 inc tyres like those PCX or Nouvo)
4. Bodyparts.. more plastic cover need to maintain.. if you tend to leave your scoot under the sun most of the time.. forget abt it.. will fade and crumbled..
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1. Mileage base. Not that expensive.
2. Every 4k km. Similar with kapchai. Similar engine oil spec. Nothing fancy.
3. True. Can be significantly expensive.
4. Similar to kapchai too. Most kapchai also covered with plastics.


QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 02:09 PM)
Ajaibman,
Thank you for the info.

Still struggle between cub and scoot.  hmm.gif
Really like the leg-space of scoot, and no need up/down gear. By the way, Honda BeAT / Spacy are good to go basic scoot? Or Yamaha EGO series / Modenas Karisma better option?
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I use Ego LC Fi. Good enough to go to pasar malam and work (10 mins ride only). The only thing that lacks is fuel tank too small 3.8L.


QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM)
I have PCX150, RM10 petrol last me one month. but then my office is only 5 minutes away.
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Which version do you have?

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post Dec 31 2016, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM)
Which version do you have?
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version 3.0, the one with 8 litre tank. nod.gif

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post Dec 31 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 09:47 AM)
version 3.0, the one with 8 litre tank.  nod.gif
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Interested to upgrade to smart key?


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post Dec 31 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 07:55 PM)
Nice  thumbup.gif

Interested to upgrade to smart key?


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yes, most definitely. I don't know its possible before this.

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post Dec 31 2016, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 08:18 PM)
yes, most definitely. I don't know its possible before this.
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It's just plug and play. I have all the parts number for the modules required. Just need to buy from Honda Thailand / Vietnam.

Over there, all PCX is keyless.
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post Dec 31 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:07 PM)
It's just plug and play. I have all the parts number for the modules required. Just need to buy from Honda Thailand / Vietnam.

Over there, all PCX is keyless.
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hit me up, once you get it. details on price and setup.

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post Jan 1 2017, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM)
1. Mileage base. Not that expensive.
2. Every 4k km.  Similar with kapchai. Similar engine oil spec. Nothing fancy.
3. True. Can be significantly expensive.
4. Similar to kapchai too. Most kapchai also covered with plastics.
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1. For small capacity scoot... 150cc and below, however the Sprocket and Chain still much cheaper.
2. For the sake of engine longevity, if no oil filter please change it every 2500 or 3000 km.. similar spec but perhaps different formula needed.
3. Agreed.
4. Look at Modenas Elit, Mosquito and older Elegan, the plastic still covered much surface compare to cubchai..

I rode 2005 Elegan 150 until 2009, Honda Scoopy in 2011 then Kymco Xciting 400i till 2015.

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post Jan 1 2017, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM)
Ride that far daily? Salute you 
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No choice actually...got transfer to putrajaya last year....with the cost of toll, fuel and time travel going from rawang to putrajaya is too much to bear...i decide to ride scooter to work and manage to save almost rm500 permonth traveling cost compare driving
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post Jan 1 2017, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 10:31 PM)
hit me up, once you get it. details on price and setup.
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Sure will do. I'll ask my bro in law in Thailand to get the quote.


QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 1 2017, 12:12 AM)
1. For small capacity scoot... 150cc and below, however the Sprocket and Chain still much cheaper.
2. For the sake of engine longevity, if no oil filter please change it every 2500 or 3000 km.. similar spec but perhaps different formula needed.
3. Agreed.
4. Look at Modenas Elit, Mosquito and older Elegan, the plastic still covered much surface compare to cubchai..

I rode 2005 Elegan 150 until 2009, Honda Scoopy in 2011 then Kymco Xciting 400i till 2015.
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I have Nouvo first edition (2002), then moves to Aprilia SportCity 250 for a few years, then 'downgrade' to Ego LC Fi... sweat.gif


QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Jan 1 2017, 08:23 AM)
No choice actually...got transfer to putrajaya  last year....with the cost of toll,  fuel and time travel going from rawang to putrajaya is too much to bear...i decide to ride scooter to work  and manage to save almost rm500 permonth  traveling cost compare driving
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Ouch rclxub.gif Seriously salute you notworthy.gif
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post Jan 2 2017, 12:56 PM

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I am not very familiar with motorcycles.
What is cupcai or kapcai? Can you all show me the pictures on cupcai or kapcai?
ikengkai
post Jan 8 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM)
Ride that far daily? Salute you  flex.gif
v-belt sets not that expensive (Yamaha). My Ego LC Fi, as stated in manual, need to change every 20k. My annual mileage only 6k. So it'll take years before I need to change it.

I still have my first scooter (Yamaha Nouvo first edition), pass it to my brother. Still kicking strong. Only the plastic cover faded.
1. Mileage base. Not that expensive.
2. Every 4k km.  Similar with kapchai. Similar engine oil spec. Nothing fancy.
3. True. Can be significantly expensive.
4. Similar to kapchai too. Most kapchai also covered with plastics.
I use Ego LC Fi. Good enough to go to pasar malam and work (10 mins ride only). The only thing that lacks is fuel tank too small 3.8L.
Which version do you have?
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Thank for the info.
The plastic fade problem seem to be issue for scooter. So far I saw those kapcai, even my honda kapcai, after 15 years, the plastic still look like new. For scooter, the black plastic tend to fade.
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM)
I have PCX150, RM10 petrol last me one month. but then my office is only 5 minutes away.
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Hi, I plan to get a secondhand one, want to ask what mileage to change oil and belt? What about the roller? Which service center you go . Thanks a lot mate.
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post Jun 9 2017, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(petergoh @ Jun 8 2017, 10:36 PM)
Hi, I plan to get a secondhand one, want to ask what mileage to change oil and belt? What about the roller? Which service center you go . Thanks a lot mate.
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change oil every 4000 km, and belting recommended every 10,000km although can be used up to 25,000km. unfortunately I live in an Island, i just go to local mechanic one. though i've seen members who used pcx speak glowingly about EE Tiong Honda Impian Shop KL for maintenance service.

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post Jun 9 2017, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(petergoh @ Jun 8 2017, 10:36 PM)
Hi, I plan to get a secondhand one, want to ask what mileage to change oil and belt? What about the roller? Which service center you go . Thanks a lot mate.
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2nd hand PCX not easy to get, if you're looking for v3 one. Older generation plenty.
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 31 2016, 09:07 PM)
It's just plug and play. I have all the parts number for the modules required. Just need to buy from Honda Thailand / Vietnam.

Over there, all PCX is keyless.
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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 10:31 PM)
hit me up, once you get it. details on price and setup.
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hi there, sorry to bring up an old post but i wonder after 6 months, did you manage to use the 2017 smart keyless module for PCX 150 older generation i.e. (2012 - 2014 v1 and 2014 - 2016 v2)? pls share as i'm quite interested. didn't know earlier that it's possible to retrofit it.

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post Mar 21 2018, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(aiskrimcup @ Nov 29 2016, 10:50 AM)
for >250cc i like both Xciting 400, but the new Downtown 250 tu pun macam cun gak. In term of price, beza about 10K juga tu. What say you bro?
Nmax roadtax is RM30 yearly, while PCX v3 is RM2 only.

I used in dilemma also last time, to choose between Pcx and Nmax. As for me, the petrol tank is really the upper hand and big advantage compared to Nmax. Plus the idling start stop, Pcx easily can achieve early 300KM per tank, very good deal tak penah nak asyik stop isi minyak.

But at the end, I choose Nmax mainly because of the selling price.
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Hi bro , i also plan to buy Nmax 155 . pls give me some review since u r using it ?
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post Mar 31 2018, 07:31 PM

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kapcai user here, planning to migrate to scooter after married
planning to get ego avantiz, just want to know about scooter maintenance, is it cheap?
need to change what every month?
appreciate your feedback

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