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haturaya
post Nov 29 2016, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(starsaber2000 @ Nov 29 2016, 01:26 AM)
I would suggest you don't get suzuki models as suzuki has announced to retreat from m'sia market... you may expose the risk of getting spare parts with expensive price or even hard to get the spare parts...

I am living in KL as well... tend to change my 20-year-old modernas kriss 110 recently...

I am thinking to get 250cc big bike or scooter... but feeling hard to move around super jammed KL city center...

Hence, I am start to look for smaller cc scooter with bigger fuel tank... currently looking for honda pcx150 and yamaha nmax 155... the coming yamaha nvx 155 even look nicer in term of the look but smaller fuel tank compare to yamaha nmax 155...

I would like to share with you... I like pcx150 more because:
- pcx150 having 8 liter ++ fuel tank but nmax155 just 6 liter ++
- pcx150 engine capacity 149cc just right below 150cc no need pay roadtax but nmax have to pay roadtax
- pcx150 has bigger underseat storage
- pcx150 chromed handlebar and meter looks awesome compare to nmax155

Unfortunately, I have not gone for test ride yet... I am doubt is there any shop in KL offer test ride for pcx150 and nmax155 or not...
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And PCX150, you can change to keyless. around RM600 - RM700 for original keyless system. Plug & play. Can buy the system set from Thailand / Vietnam. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 31 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Nov 29 2016, 02:34 PM)
if you want to buy nmax or pcx....plz consider the new modenas elegan...just topup sikit some money and get bigger cc scooter compare those 2....just rm13000, the cheapest 250cc new scooter in malaysia right now

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i myself a scoot rider....everyday ulang alik from rawang to putrajaya....lucky i'm using daelim s3 250cc....so quite jimat
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Ride that far daily? Salute you flex.gif


QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 12:07 AM)
Hi all scooter fellows here, I am interested to get a scooter, just for a convenient transport like go mini-market, or send kid to school in early morning (2-3km distant).
I am looking for <150cc scooter, anyway, previously cub user (honda 110cc cub), and feel want to switch to automatic.

A few concern, since the honda cub is super reliable and solid, after >15 years still work good and not much maintenance cost. Heard that scooter might need frequent change v-belt and cvt pulley stuff... Just worry after bought it will regret, any forum or page that could get more info on all those stuffs ?
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v-belt sets not that expensive (Yamaha). My Ego LC Fi, as stated in manual, need to change every 20k. My annual mileage only 6k. So it'll take years before I need to change it.

I still have my first scooter (Yamaha Nouvo first edition), pass it to my brother. Still kicking strong. Only the plastic cover faded.


QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 21 2016, 11:30 AM)
Cubchai definitely cheaper to maintain in the long run...

1. Scoot need to change the CVT parts.. Belt, Roller and Clutch  just its need different KM distance on those parts.
2. Engine oil will need to change with oil filter (compare to EX-5), and good quality of engine oil needed since Scoot with CVT will need to operate in higher RPM most of the time...
3. Those fat but small Tyre definitely more expensive than those cubchai rubber (unless you take the standard size 14 or 17 inc tyres like those PCX or Nouvo)
4. Bodyparts.. more plastic cover need to maintain.. if you tend to leave your scoot under the sun most of the time.. forget abt it.. will fade and crumbled..
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1. Mileage base. Not that expensive.
2. Every 4k km. Similar with kapchai. Similar engine oil spec. Nothing fancy.
3. True. Can be significantly expensive.
4. Similar to kapchai too. Most kapchai also covered with plastics.


QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 02:09 PM)
Ajaibman,
Thank you for the info.

Still struggle between cub and scoot.  hmm.gif
Really like the leg-space of scoot, and no need up/down gear. By the way, Honda BeAT / Spacy are good to go basic scoot? Or Yamaha EGO series / Modenas Karisma better option?
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I use Ego LC Fi. Good enough to go to pasar malam and work (10 mins ride only). The only thing that lacks is fuel tank too small 3.8L.


QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM)
I have PCX150, RM10 petrol last me one month. but then my office is only 5 minutes away.
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Which version do you have?

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post Dec 31 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 09:47 AM)
version 3.0, the one with 8 litre tank.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 08:18 PM)
yes, most definitely. I don't know its possible before this.
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It's just plug and play. I have all the parts number for the modules required. Just need to buy from Honda Thailand / Vietnam.

Over there, all PCX is keyless.
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post Jan 1 2017, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(MrWrath @ Dec 31 2016, 10:31 PM)
hit me up, once you get it. details on price and setup.
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Sure will do. I'll ask my bro in law in Thailand to get the quote.


QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 1 2017, 12:12 AM)
1. For small capacity scoot... 150cc and below, however the Sprocket and Chain still much cheaper.
2. For the sake of engine longevity, if no oil filter please change it every 2500 or 3000 km.. similar spec but perhaps different formula needed.
3. Agreed.
4. Look at Modenas Elit, Mosquito and older Elegan, the plastic still covered much surface compare to cubchai..

I rode 2005 Elegan 150 until 2009, Honda Scoopy in 2011 then Kymco Xciting 400i till 2015.
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I have Nouvo first edition (2002), then moves to Aprilia SportCity 250 for a few years, then 'downgrade' to Ego LC Fi... sweat.gif


QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Jan 1 2017, 08:23 AM)
No choice actually...got transfer to putrajaya  last year....with the cost of toll,  fuel and time travel going from rawang to putrajaya is too much to bear...i decide to ride scooter to work  and manage to save almost rm500 permonth  traveling cost compare driving
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post Jun 9 2017, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(petergoh @ Jun 8 2017, 10:36 PM)
Hi, I plan to get a secondhand one, want to ask what mileage to change oil and belt? What about the roller? Which service center you go . Thanks a lot mate.
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2nd hand PCX not easy to get, if you're looking for v3 one. Older generation plenty.
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post Apr 1 2018, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(hasan_sas @ Mar 31 2018, 07:31 PM)
kapcai user here, planning to migrate to scooter after married
planning to get ego avantiz, just want to know about scooter maintenance, is it cheap?
need to change what every month?
appreciate your feedback
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What's the primary use of the scooter? If just to go to 'Pasar Malam', then it's good enough. The fuel tank a bit small.

I've used Ego LC Fi before, used it for 3 years, very cheap to maintain. Good scooter IMHO but lack travelling range due to smallish fuel tank.

You cannot measure what to change every month... if you don't ride it much, then nothing to be change. For example, it can be months before it's due for an engine oil change. It's about km distance covered, not month. As for engine oil, if I'm not mistaken it's due for a fresh engine oil every 5,000km. Do check with the user's manual. It's all there. 0.8L engine oil just RM19 icon_rolleyes.gif

Refresh brake fluid every 24 months. Simple job.

As for CVT (belting, weight, & stuffs) do it every 20,000km.

Air filter need to be change as well, but I can't remember the details. All in the manual. Do read and follow. It's there for a reason whistling.gif

This post has been edited by haturaya: Apr 1 2018, 03:00 PM
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post Apr 1 2018, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(hasan_sas @ Apr 1 2018, 07:46 PM)
primary function is going to work and beli grocery kat pasar etc
tmpt kerja is just 7-8 minutes from house
changing to scooter coz the seat is much more surface area in compare to my current motor hihi

ya, will read the manual , thx for the head ups smile.gif
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Should be good then. thumbup.gif Practical for your needs.

Happy scootering thumbup.gif

ps - as for spare parts, you can always get direct from Yamaha factory Sungai Buloh. You also can service the scoot there. thumbup.gif cool2.gif ezpz


 

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