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 Scooters or motorcycles, which is better?

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post Nov 29 2016, 11:18 AM

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scoot more comfortable, less police kacau.
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QUOTE(starsaber2000 @ Nov 29 2016, 01:26 AM)
I would suggest you don't get suzuki models as suzuki has announced to retreat from m'sia market... you may expose the risk of getting spare parts with expensive price or even hard to get the spare parts...

I am living in KL as well... tend to change my 20-year-old modernas kriss 110 recently...

I am thinking to get 250cc big bike or scooter... but feeling hard to move around super jammed KL city center...

Hence, I am start to look for smaller cc scooter with bigger fuel tank... currently looking for honda pcx150 and yamaha nmax 155... the coming yamaha nvx 155 even look nicer in term of the look but smaller fuel tank compare to yamaha nmax 155...

I would like to share with you... I like pcx150 more because:
- pcx150 having 8 liter ++ fuel tank but nmax155 just 6 liter ++
- pcx150 engine capacity 149cc just right below 150cc no need pay roadtax but nmax have to pay roadtax
- pcx150 has bigger underseat storage
- pcx150 chromed handlebar and meter looks awesome compare to nmax155

Unfortunately, I have not gone for test ride yet... I am doubt is there any shop in KL offer test ride for pcx150 and nmax155 or not...
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And PCX150, you can change to keyless. around RM600 - RM700 for original keyless system. Plug & play. Can buy the system set from Thailand / Vietnam. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(one punch man @ Nov 29 2016, 11:16 AM)
Xciting 400i >rm30k?, i thought rm28k++ only...last time i bought 26k only
ya downtown is newer, modern design but priced at rm23k, the small diff better opt for bigger cc...the maintenance cost are similar
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Dah almost ~33K otr dah bro. 26k tu masa mula2 masuk sini je.

Xciting ni what most attract me is the design belakang tu, lampu belakang dia, pehhhhhh memang smart. Suppose haritu waktu launch Elegan tu patut nya Modenas introduce Downtown sekali dengan Xciting, tak tau kenapa Xciting delay lak. Hopefully ada price reduction la
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post Nov 29 2016, 01:24 PM

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Yamaha Ego AVANTIZ and Suzuki Address, which is better?
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post Nov 29 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(aiskrimcup @ Nov 29 2016, 11:51 AM)
Dah almost ~33K otr dah bro. 26k tu masa mula2 masuk sini je.

Xciting ni what most attract me is the design belakang tu, lampu belakang dia, pehhhhhh memang smart. Suppose haritu waktu launch Elegan tu patut nya Modenas introduce Downtown sekali dengan Xciting, tak tau kenapa Xciting delay lak. Hopefully ada price reduction la
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ya xciting rear light the best rclxms.gif ,if dt250 front + xct400 rear even better
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post Nov 29 2016, 02:34 PM

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if you want to buy nmax or pcx....plz consider the new modenas elegan...just topup sikit some money and get bigger cc scooter compare those 2....just rm13000, the cheapest 250cc new scooter in malaysia right now

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i myself a scoot rider....everyday ulang alik from rawang to putrajaya....lucky i'm using daelim s3 250cc....so quite jimat

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post Dec 21 2016, 12:07 AM

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Hi all scooter fellows here, I am interested to get a scooter, just for a convenient transport like go mini-market, or send kid to school in early morning (2-3km distant).
I am looking for <150cc scooter, anyway, previously cub user (honda 110cc cub), and feel want to switch to automatic.

A few concern, since the honda cub is super reliable and solid, after >15 years still work good and not much maintenance cost. Heard that scooter might need frequent change v-belt and cvt pulley stuff... Just worry after bought it will regret, any forum or page that could get more info on all those stuffs ?
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post Dec 21 2016, 11:18 AM

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Xciting beware of the King Coil problem.. the 1.5 L engine oil wont help to cooled down the coil in Malaysia condition...

I owned one before.. this definetely something you need to change after 10 to 15k Km....

No cure whatsoever, some can getaway with recoil but it depends on your luck... Ask Mansheng in Pudu if you need further info....

And note.. the spare part is lesser compare to SYM... due to Modenas didn't bring the 400i officially and the current dealership (MBB) already not carrying Kymco Anymore (AP given to Modenas)
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post Dec 21 2016, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 12:07 AM)
Hi all scooter fellows here, I am interested to get a scooter, just for a convenient transport like go mini-market, or send kid to school in early morning (2-3km distant).
I am looking for <150cc scooter, anyway, previously cub user (honda 110cc cub), and feel want to switch to automatic.

A few concern, since the honda cub is super reliable and solid, after >15 years still work good and not much maintenance cost. Heard that scooter might need frequent change v-belt and cvt pulley stuff... Just worry after bought it will regret, any forum or page that could get more info on all those stuffs ?
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Cubchai definitely cheaper to maintain in the long run...

1. Scoot need to change the CVT parts.. Belt, Roller and Clutch just its need different KM distance on those parts.
2. Engine oil will need to change with oil filter (compare to EX-5), and good quality of engine oil needed since Scoot with CVT will need to operate in higher RPM most of the time...
3. Those fat but small Tyre definitely more expensive than those cubchai rubber (unless you take the standard size 14 or 17 inc tyres like those PCX or Nouvo)
4. Bodyparts.. more plastic cover need to maintain.. if you tend to leave your scoot under the sun most of the time.. forget abt it.. will fade and crumbled..
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post Dec 21 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 21 2016, 11:30 AM)
Cubchai definitely cheaper to maintain in the long run...

1. Scoot need to change the CVT parts.. Belt, Roller and Clutch  just its need different KM distance on those parts.
2. Engine oil will need to change with oil filter (compare to EX-5), and good quality of engine oil needed since Scoot with CVT will need to operate in higher RPM most of the time...
3. Those fat but small Tyre definitely more expensive than those cubchai rubber (unless you take the standard size 14 or 17 inc tyres like those PCX or Nouvo)
4. Bodyparts.. more plastic cover need to maintain.. if you tend to leave your scoot under the sun most of the time.. forget abt it.. will fade and crumbled..
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Ajaibman,
Thank you for the info.

Still struggle between cub and scoot. hmm.gif
Really like the leg-space of scoot, and no need up/down gear. By the way, Honda BeAT / Spacy are good to go basic scoot? Or Yamaha EGO series / Modenas Karisma better option?
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post Dec 21 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 02:09 PM)
Ajaibman,
Thank you for the info.

Still struggle between cub and scoot.  hmm.gif
Really like the leg-space of scoot, and no need up/down gear. By the way, Honda BeAT / Spacy are good to go basic scoot? Or Yamaha EGO series / Modenas Karisma better option?
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Since Suzuki withdraws Malaysia market, I choose Yamaha Ego.
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post Dec 21 2016, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 21 2016, 02:09 PM)
Ajaibman,
Thank you for the info.

Still struggle between cub and scoot.  hmm.gif
Really like the leg-space of scoot, and no need up/down gear. By the way, Honda BeAT / Spacy are good to go basic scoot? Or Yamaha EGO series / Modenas Karisma better option?
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Those scoot you mention does not guarantee long space for your leg, just same as cubchai... but if you really into those choices..

I would suggest Honda Spacy as 1st option then follow by the Ego .. dont go for Modenas.. how many you see on the road this bike?


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post Dec 22 2016, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 21 2016, 03:10 PM)
Those scoot you mention does not guarantee long space for your leg, just same as cubchai... but if you really into those choices..

I would suggest Honda Spacy as 1st option then follow by the Ego .. dont go for Modenas.. how many you see on the road this bike?
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Thank ajaibman.
Will visit shop to has a serious look on the actual unit.
Personally prefer Honda, as it famous for "tahan lasak". But i don't want limit the choice, since it is scoot, Suzuki/Yamaha had long history of scoot in Malaysia, so they should had build up some eco-system.
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post Dec 22 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ikengkai @ Dec 22 2016, 09:26 AM)
Thank ajaibman.
Will visit shop to has a serious look on the actual unit.
Personally prefer Honda, as it famous for "tahan lasak". But i don't want limit the choice, since it is scoot, Suzuki/Yamaha had long history of scoot in Malaysia, so they should had build up some eco-system.
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And don't go for Suzuki as well.. their principal close shop in Malaysia only Lion Suzuki as distributor now... even in Thai and Indon Suzuki not mainstream brand...

However, Suzuki tend to build their engine tahan lasak...

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post Dec 22 2016, 01:39 PM

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i choose scooter because my legs won't get splashed with puddle water after rain. that's good enough reason for me
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post Dec 23 2016, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 21 2016, 03:10 PM)
Those scoot you mention does not guarantee long space for your leg, just same as cubchai... but if you really into those choices..

I would suggest Honda Spacy as 1st option then follow by the Ego .. dont go for Modenas.. how many you see on the road this bike?
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Might I know Honda Spacy save petrol or not?

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post Dec 23 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Dec 23 2016, 07:28 AM)
Might I know Honda Spacy save petrol or not?
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compare to?

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post Dec 23 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 23 2016, 10:09 AM)
compare to?
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Yamaha Ego AVANTIZ.
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post Dec 23 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Dec 23 2016, 10:41 AM)
Yamaha Ego AVANTIZ.
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From the displacement .. sure Honda Spacy more fuel saving since 109 vs 125cc ....

but from the power to weight ratio.. they might be at the similar level of fuel consumption..

At the end for this low capacity scooter.. the determining factor of fuel efficiency ... depends on how much weight its carry..


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post Dec 23 2016, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 23 2016, 10:53 AM)
From the displacement .. sure Honda Spacy more fuel saving since 109 vs 125cc ....

but from the power to weight ratio.. they might be at the similar level of fuel consumption..

At the end for this low capacity scooter.. the determining factor of fuel efficiency ... depends on how much weight its carry..
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Thank you very much

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