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Fat & Fluffy
post Nov 17 2016, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 05:22 PM)
Just like tank on land, if the gun is fully stabilized then it should be pretty accurate.

This reminds me of the Soviet WW2 river gunboats. To simplify production, they simply installed tank turrets onto armored hulls to patrol the riverways of Russia.

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their tank boat can go on land no? hmm.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:24 PM

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Indonesian Army Kostrad's Leopard 2RI & Leopard 2A4 MBTs. Credit to Khin's Photography.

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post Nov 17 2016, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 03:52 PM)
their tank boat can go on land no?  hmm.gif
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No. What made you think they could? They are boats after all. confused.gif

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 17 2016, 03:50 PM)
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Why nobody call this tank boat? laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 04:37 PM)
Why nobody call this pt boat? laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 07:34 PM

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China lost a Z-8 helicopter during exercise in Thailand

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China’s Ministry of National Defense disclosed that a burning helicopter was pushed off the deck of Type 071 LPD Changbai Shan during the ASEAN Defence Ministers’ Meeting (ADMM)-Plus Military Medicine (MM) / Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief (HADR) Exercise in September.

The aircraft is likely to be a Changhe Z-8, a Chinese copy of the SA 321 Super Frelon, according to an earlier press release by the ministry.

It had to make a force landing aboard the ship and was on fire, the deputy commanding officer of the vessel made a decision to push the aircraft off the deck after he discovered fuel was leaking while putting out the fire.


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
suka dia org.. boat plane ke, tank plane ke, boat car ke.. janji indon bahagia.. anyone tried out such a platform before? i wonder how accurate is the gun while on water..
integrated force.. indons are getting smarter... their konstrad seems to be well trained
the last time a ruski vessl berth and was stranded at indon port near kalimantan due to demurrage issues.. 18 of the 40 crew died after bringing on board moonlighted drinks laced with industrial alcohol.. noone expected them to drink so much
hidup prc!!! msia boleh serbis byk byk.. syukur myr jatuh..
i think he shit in his pants laughing  laugh.gif
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I shouldnt laugh
But I did doh.gif
Indon alcohol just as deadly to foreign invaders as the army
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 06:34 PM)
No. What made you think they could? They are boats after all.  confused.gif
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lol.. no idea mang... not familiar biggrin.gif

QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 17 2016, 08:44 PM)
they tough every clear alcohol must be Vodka  sad.gif  kesian
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well, they hantam aje.. anything goes since they were stuck and i think the captain was trying to prevent mutiny.. not mistaken they were unpaid too

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:20 PM)
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Indon alcohol just as deadly to foreign invaders as the army
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biggrin.gif poor buggers..

i dun like bintang either
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post Nov 17 2016, 10:25 PM

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Negotiations under way on additional equipment package for Indonesia's PKR frigate

Richard Scott, London - IHS Jane's Navy International
17 November 2016
 
Key Points

• Damen has been contracted by Indonesia to procure a range of 'fitted for but not with' systems
• Specific equipments include MBDA's VL Mica point defence missile system and its MM 40 Block 3 Exocet anti-ship missile system, and the Rheinmetall Millennium 35 mm cannon

Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) is in negotiations with several suppliers for the procurement of a package of weapons and equipments for backfitting to two SIGMA 10514 Perusak Kawal Rudal (PKR) frigates being delivered to the Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL).

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KRI Raden Eddy Martadinata pictured on sea acceptance trials. The Leonardo (Oto Melara) 76/62 Super Rapid gun visible here was the only weapon system included in the original scope of supply. (Thales)

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) and DSNS as prime contractor, signed a contract in December 2012 for the first PKR.


http://www.janes.com/article/65579/negotia...a-s-pkr-frigate



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azriel is from Indonesia?
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
the last time a ruski vessl berth and was stranded at indon port near kalimantan due to demurrage issues.. 18 of the 40 crew died after bringing on board moonlighted drinks laced with industrial alcohol.. noone expected them to drink so much
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That's an exaggeration. The actual story goes like this (courtesy of wiki):
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On 21 June 2011, after having been anchored off Muara Asam Asam in Kalimantan, Indonesia, for almost two months due to a commercial dispute on a quality of loaded nickel ore, seven crew members managed to purchase three litres of pure spirits from a ship chandler to have a party.

Unbeknownst to them, the captain of the ship had asked the ship chandler to deliver ethanol for the ship's medical kit, but had rejected the suspicious-looking bottles because they had no prints proving that the content was suitable for medical use. Instead of 90–95% ethanol spirit the liquid in the bottles contained 36% of methanol, and four of the seven crew members involved in the party died as a result of methanol poisoning.
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You could imbibe small doses of ETHANOL and it will give you a buzz. Not so much METHANOL though, that stuff is totally toxic to the human body and will kill no matter the dose.
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Wed Nov 16, 2016 | 4:54 AM EST

Japan gives Malaysia two patrol boats

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on Wednesday that Tokyo will give Malaysia two patrol boats, a move that visiting Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak welcomed as an aid to promoting stability in the South China Sea.

Najib arrived in Japan on Tuesday on a visit that comes just weeks after he was in China on a six-day visit in which he agreed to buy four Chinese patrol boats in his nation's first significant defense deal with China.

"Today's agreement - Japan is willing to hand over two decommissioned patrol vessels to our maritime enforcement agency - shows the nature of our relationship is now broad-based," Najib said.

Malaysia, along with three other members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) - the Philippines, Vietnam and Brunei - are among the countries contesting territorial claims with China over the South China Sea. China claims nearly the entire body of water as its territory.

Najib said talks with Abe touched on this issue, adding: "Malaysia continues to play its part to ensure the South China Sea will be an area of peace and stability, without which we cannot achieve prosperity."

Discussions also included the planned high-speed rail link between Singapore and the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur, set to be built by 2026 and with the two neighbors set to finalize a bilateral agreement in December.

Japan has expressed interest in the project, and Najib said he had assured Abe that the bidding process would be conducted in a fair and transparent way.


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13B0X4


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post Nov 18 2016, 07:38 AM

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post Nov 18 2016, 08:06 AM

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I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that? confused.gif

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 18 2016, 08:06 AM)
I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that?  confused.gif
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 18 2016, 08:25 AM)
not only soldier, Human are like that car too big complain no power , great power complain fuel monster, too small car not stable.....
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^^ Every person have their own personal taste. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 17 2016, 03:21 PM)
Watch out....can happen to AV8...and yes, Badak too
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of cos it can to any 8x8. hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 18 2016, 10:06 AM)
I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that?  confused.gif
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that's why have different weapons.. sama je la, ns boy also complain byk byk
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Today I Learned: In WW2, the Nazis awarded 'German Blood Certificates' (Deutschblütigkeitserklärung) to Jewish military officers that served in the Armed Forces

A German Blood Certificate (Deutschblütigkeitserklärung) was a document provided by Hitler to Mischlinge (those with partial Jewish heritage), declaring them deutschblütig (of German blood). This practice was begun sometime after the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, and allowed exemption from most of Germany's racial laws.

These certificates were 300 mm (11¾ in) by 210 mm (8¼ in), with a signature on the front and the red seal of the Office of Racial Research of the Nazi Party. The back listed the ancestry of the individual concerned, back to the grandparents of the father and the mother. Individuals awarded these 'Blood Certificates' were deemed 'Honorary Aryans'.

During the Third Reich, the status of Honorary Aryan was occasionally conferred to certain Jews out of pragmatic considerations. For instance, Jews who had been decorated in World War I by providing military service for the German Empire and who had maintained their support thereafter were unofficially commemorated as "honorary Aryans" and subjected to comparatively less discrimination than most other Jews were.

These were also awarded to currently-serving military officers and soldiers which achievements allowed their racial status as Jewish to be overlooked. A top example is Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who was one of the fathers of the Luftwaffe and who reported directly to Hermann Goering. He was one of the highest recipients of the award. Another Luftwaffe top officer was General Helmuth Wilberg.

Other high-ranking Jewish recipients of the Blood Certificates were Wehrmacht Generals Gottard Heinrici, Artur Zukertort and his brother Karl Zukertort. Others were Waffen-SS General Horst Heyer, Kriegsmarine Admirals Bernhardt Rogge, Harald Netzbandt and Paul Ascher (who was Chief of Staff and first officer to the battleship Bismarck). Besides these high-ranking officers, numerous lower-ranking soldiers also was awarded these certificates. It is speculated that there are more than 150,000 soldiers of various ranks in the armed forces who are recipients of this award.

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Werner Goldberg

Ironically, one of the most recognizable 'Blood Certificate' recipients was Werner Goldberg, the Nazi Party's poster boy for the ideal 'Aryan' Nazi soldier image. Although he was a strapping young man with dark blond hair and piercing blue eyes, he was actually half-jewish.



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