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Saga VVT 2016 Review, With updates
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Nov 7 2016, 09:56 AM
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Nov 7 2016, 10:01 AM
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just bought a saga premium 2016.
anyone know a way to reduce the brightness for the reverse-cam display because when i reverse my car in a low-light surrounding area, the display camera becomes like sun. i tried calling proton service and they said there's no way to reduce the brightness. then after googled around i found a way to reduce the brightness is by installing a led light around the number plate area .. but i never tried that yet.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by littlepotato: Nov 7 2016, 10:02 AM |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 09:48 AM) More cheaper car will come? Persona is supposed to be replacement for Saga in case you still donno.How is it a bad thing? Want cheap. Go saga Want better. Go persona Want better. Go preve Want more better. Go perdana More options. More choice for consumers What's the problem? But last minute decision from P1 that it's the new Persona instead. In 2016, most people expect all cars equipped with ESC, ABS, 4 airbags as standard. But no, this Saga dont even have ABS in the lowest specs. From this on you should understand whats my point. Safety is not supposed to be an option either for those who can afford or cant. It's everyone's right. Now those who cant afford to pay more have no option but to choose the low spec no ABS variant. Silly decision from P1. This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 7 2016, 10:07 AM |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 10:05 AM) Persona is supposed to be replacement for Saga in case you still donno. no.its notBut last minute decision from P1 that it's the new Persona instead. In 2016, most people expect all cars equipped with ESC, ABS, 4 airbags as standard. But no, this Saga dont event have ABS. From this on yiu should understandwhats my poiny Safety is not supposed to be an option either for those who can afford or cant. Its everyone right. Now those who cant afford to pay more have no option but to choose the low spec no ABS variant. Silly decision from P1 persona is persona the first one was sold alongside saga this new persona is sedan version of iriz bigger space inside while saga remain as cheap sedan. even the space inside is small of course dont have abs its cheap what do u expect? its like buying pizza with no topping of course no topping,its cheap u want abs buy car that have abs spend more money no one force u to buy abs-less saga |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 10:07 AM) no.its not Nope its not. This new Persona is supposed to replace the Saga.persona is persona the first one was sold alongside saga this new persona is sedan version of iriz bigger space inside while saga remain as cheap sedan. even the space inside is small of course dont have abs its cheap what do u expect? its like buying pizza with no topping of course no topping,its cheap u want abs buy car that have abs spend more money no one force u to buy abs-less saga This info is from someone ins CoE told by himself to me. Owh now its cheap because it dont have ABS thingy sound reasonable? LMAO. The 2008 Saga dont even have airbags and ABS. 8 years have passed. After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary. Now all cars comes with 2 airbags. And price is cheaper or almost same. They made it even in the cheapest spec. Tell me why after 8 years still have no ABS? Gomen need to force only want to put ABS? |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 10:14 AM) Nope its not. This new Persona is supposed to replace the Saga. er...axia cheapest dont have absThis info is from someone ins CoE told by himself to me. Owh now its cheap because it dont have ABS thingy sound reasonable? LMAO. The 2008 Saga dont even have airbags and ABS. 8 years have passed. After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary. Now all cars comes with 2 airbags. And price is cheaper or almost same. They made it even in the cheapest spec. Tell me why after 8 years still have no ABS? Gomen need to force only want to put ABS? ok je lol dont even have radio my point is,its cheap u want abs,pay more they only give options up to consumer which one to sell if true persona suppose to replace sag then thats dumb persona way too expensive to be a cheap sedan unless they can price it very cheap, they still need saga to fill the space for "cheap sedan" |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 10:17 AM) if true persona suppose to replace sag then thats dumb persona way too expensive to be a cheap sedan unless they can price it very cheap, they still need saga to fill the space for "cheap sedan" |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 10:17 AM) er...axia cheapest dont have abs From the start, in this thread, i never talked about Perodua or their cars. (except about Saga vs Bezza in diff context)ok je lol dont even have radio my point is,its cheap u want abs,pay more they only give options up to consumer which one to sell if true persona suppose to replace sag then thats dumb persona way too expensive to be a cheap sedan unless they can price it very cheap, they still need saga to fill the space for "cheap sedan" That's why Proton having roller-coaster ride in improvement, Because they're not consistent. Like, Owh P2 dont have this and that, we also can minus this and that and look our price is cheaper. They become like this because they only look at P2 as competitor. And user are comparing P1 and P2 like you do. This is the reason why the cant improve, they're not consistent i want Proton to improve. Why can't they back to Preve era, nobody expected them to put 6 airbags, ESC, ABS, EBD, TC, HFP, great handling in even a basic RM60k C segment. Then, after that people always talked nout ESC and put it in the their personal requirement in choosing cars. BTW this is news from India. Malaysia bila lagi? Ke sudah ada? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/indust...ow/52544569.cms This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 7 2016, 10:27 AM |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Nov 7 2016, 10:24 AM) that's why they changed decision. because persona 1.3 cannot be priced under 40k. supposedly same like iriz, offers both 1.3 and 1.6, another reason why there won't be 1.6 saga so won't reduce persona sale. exactlyso they did it right they cant sell persona cheap so just match iriz price range and make saga as the cheapest sedan they sell in fact,its good many report saga has better nvh than persona probably cuz saga build from ground up while persona just an elongated iriz i own iriz,and the nvh,isnt that great.need some improvement so im quite jeles with who own new saga now their ride must be more comfortable cuz less noise |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 10:25 AM) From the start, in this thread, i never talked about Perodua or their cars. i cannot say anymore than i already didThat's why Proton having roller-coaster ride in improvement, Because they're not consistent. Like, Owh P2 dont have this and that, we also can minus this and that and look our price is cheaper. They become like this because they only look at P2 as competitor. And user are comparing P1 and P2 like you do. This is the reason why the cant improve, they're not consistent i want Proton to improve. Why can't they back to Preve era, nobody expected them to put 6 airbags, ESC, ABS, EBD, TC, HFP, great handling in even a basic RM60k C segment. Then, after that people always talked nout ESC and put it in the their personal requirement in choosing cars. BTW this is news from India. Malaysia bila lagi? Ke sudah ada? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/indust...ow/52544569.cms they didnt take abs out,cuz they evil or want to kill u they take abs out to keep the price low to make it cheap if any customer want abs they can opt for pricier car simple nobody put gun to anyone head willing buyer willing seller |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 10:14 AM) Nope its not. This new Persona is supposed to replace the Saga. i really don't understand your pointThis info is from someone ins CoE told by himself to me. Owh now its cheap because it dont have ABS thingy sound reasonable? LMAO. The 2008 Saga dont even have airbags and ABS. 8 years have passed. After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary. Now all cars comes with 2 airbags. And price is cheaper or almost same. They made it even in the cheapest spec. Tell me why after 8 years still have no ABS? Gomen need to force only want to put ABS? got two option.. 1. no ABS 2. with ABS you can just choose right? |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:19 AM
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Nov 7 2016, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 11:17 AM) er...axia cheapest dont have abs I agree. its a matter of paying more and giving options.ok je lol dont even have radio my point is,its cheap u want abs,pay more they only give options up to consumer which one to sell if true persona suppose to replace sag then thats dumb persona way too expensive to be a cheap sedan unless they can price it very cheap, they still need saga to fill the space for "cheap sedan" Expecting ALL VARIANTS to have ABS for saga is marketing failure. We all know there are Malaysians who dont fucking care about safety in car.... and one should fulfil such needs. otherwise. there will be complaint of "why basic variant so expensive. ABS is unnecessary tech LAH!! " btw, there are hot discussion on safety in FnF section including ABS etc etc and end up some really defended the USELESSNESS of having em... LOL. We cant please everybody, really. This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Nov 7 2016, 11:23 AM |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Nov 7 2016, 11:22 AM) I agree. its a matter of paying more and giving options. Kek.Expecting ALL VARIANTS to have ABS for saga is marketing failure. We all know there are Malaysians who dont fucking care about safety in car.... and one should fulfil such needs. otherwise. there will be complaint of "why basic variant so expensive. ABS is unnecessary tech LAH!! " btw, there are hot discussion on safety in FnF section including ABS etc etc and end up some really defended the USELESSNESS of having em... LOL. We cant please everybody, really. Pls post the link bruhh. Cant find it |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:28 AM
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Whoa, still got ppl here who don't care whether a car has abs or not. Amazing
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Nov 7 2016, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 11:19 AM) but still what's the problem?you can still choose if you got no option and got fucuked anal without any option then that's a problem. since you cannot choose but you can choose so wtf is your problem? |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 11:19 AM) aikgot option to choose also salah? u dont like free will? prefer dictatorship? QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Nov 7 2016, 11:22 AM) I agree. its a matter of paying more and giving options. ya lor.weird la humanExpecting ALL VARIANTS to have ABS for saga is marketing failure. We all know there are Malaysians who dont fucking care about safety in car.... and one should fulfil such needs. otherwise. there will be complaint of "why basic variant so expensive. ABS is unnecessary tech LAH!! " btw, there are hot discussion on safety in FnF section including ABS etc etc and end up some really defended the USELESSNESS of having em... LOL. We cant please everybody, really. QUOTE(ashestoashes @ Nov 7 2016, 11:30 AM) but still what's the problem? he masochist kotyou can still choose if you got no option and got fucuked anal without any option then that's a problem. since you cannot choose but you can choose so wtf is your problem? want everything shove into him with him has no say or choice |
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Nov 7 2016, 11:32 AM
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Nov 7 2016, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 7 2016, 11:32 AM) aik this kind of people... later if all variants got ABSgot option to choose also salah? u dont like free will? prefer dictatorship? ya lor.weird la human he masochist kot want everything shove into him with him has no say or choice "why why why the fucuk you not giving me the option to not have ABS!!!" doubt he even knows what ABS does. and how useless it is to good drivers |
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