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post Nov 7 2016, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Nov 7 2016, 08:46 PM)
still own it.. touched 110k km already..
the Iriz for the mrs..
depends on what you are looking for in a car..

FC is decent.. ~8l/100km on extra urban roads..
in town around 10l-12l/100km..
even the iriz hovers at the same FC..
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I see. Haha, thought you sell off your surprima. Scared me haha
Is a very exotic car to me haha
QUOTE(UnknownH @ Nov 7 2016, 09:02 PM)
So new saga and persona, do their signal and wiper stick position still like foreign car?
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Yep, still the same. I test drove it today, I am impressed la... Really more refine
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 10:14 AM)
Nope its not. This new Persona is supposed to replace the Saga.

This info is from someone ins CoE told by himself to me.

Owh now its cheap because it dont have ABS thingy sound reasonable?  LMAO.

The 2008 Saga dont even have airbags and ABS. 8 years have passed.

After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary.

Now all cars comes with 2 airbags. And price is cheaper or almost same. They made it even in the cheapest spec.

Tell me why after 8 years still have no ABS?

Gomen need to force only want to put ABS?
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Is it true? Then why Almari E still have an airbag?

http://www.carbase.my/nissan/almera/n17-fa.../1.5l-e-mt-2016

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post Nov 7 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(NielWooWoo1205 @ Nov 7 2016, 09:26 PM)
Is it true? Then why Almari E still have an airbag?

http://www.carbase.my/nissan/almera/n17-fa.../1.5l-e-mt-2016
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Why u ask me?

As far as i concern, we are talking about Proton arent we. I comment about Nissan when there is a thread about it here
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Nov 7 2016, 01:57 PM)
I'd get a used preve if i were u, not difficult to see rm30k preve manual on mudah. They're 3,4 years old at most, not like the condition can be so run down it's not buyable at all.
I blame it on talibanism. Ala, ajal maut kat tangan Tuhan, kalau da sampai masa, dekat rumah pun boleh mati!

They can go die then, but annoyingly, they become sohai drivers endangering me n other users. Fuuuuuuu
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Islam teaches us to USAHA then doa and lastly tawakal. Pandai-pandai aje dia,lebih Muslim dari Muslim lol

Lol out of topic
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Nov 7 2016, 09:28 PM)
Why u ask me?

As far as i concern, we are talking about Proton arent we. I comment about Nissan when there is a thread about it here
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Because you mentioned

"After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary."
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(NielWooWoo1205 @ Nov 7 2016, 09:39 PM)
Because you mentioned

"After that gomen forced manufacturers to equiped with 2 airbags for all cars as compulsary."
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Again. Why ask me? Ask la Nissan.

The new regulation start on 2012
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post Nov 8 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Nov 7 2016, 07:56 PM)
I think i will prefer city/jazz over suprima. Just bcs good handling doesnt means good car. With turbo bocor alot, unrealible car, bad fc and no rv. City floating because of thin tyre 175 width laugh.gif

I'm also planning want to buy suprima 2nd bcs that is the only car that good looking and good to drive with price around 40-50k. But when you said like that.. Need to re-think hmm.gif
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Turbo hose already fixed after the recall.

I mean, the handling, gadgets and safety is what makes the car stand out compared to others. You really cannot find such a fully loaded spec car aside from the Suprima for the price, if 2nd hand then even better deal.

The only downside is fuel consumption and noise.. the car itself is reliable. It all depends on your luck, for many people they have a perfect car even after 50k mileage while some people encounter issues within the first few weeks of driving.
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post Nov 8 2016, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Nov 7 2016, 07:56 PM)
I think i will prefer city/jazz over suprima. Just bcs good handling doesnt means good car. With turbo bocor alot, unrealible car, bad fc and no rv. City floating because of thin tyre 175 width laugh.gif

I'm also planning want to buy suprima 2nd bcs that is the only car that good looking and good to drive with price around 40-50k. But when you said like that.. Need to re-think hmm.gif
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Preve manual would be the car to get, no need pening turbocor, noisy CVT. Already Proton no RV, it being manual make it even lower RV. But that's good news if buying it used, very value for money, yet, being NA and manual, it's more reliable and cheaper to run.

QUOTE(NielWooWoo1205 @ Nov 7 2016, 09:26 PM)
Is it true? Then why Almari E still have an airbag?

http://www.carbase.my/nissan/almera/n17-fa.../1.5l-e-mt-2016
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This puzzled me, I was certain govt got made 2 airbags compulsory, how Tan Chong got away with it is a mystery. Until now the almera E still only single airbag.

I remember during launch, read on pauline tan, the TC top people got say 1 airbag is enough cuz Almera has tough body, topkek. Just shows the management got chinaman mentality, stingy to even give 2 airbags, but rather promote stupid Nismo bodykit.

QUOTE(NielWooWoo1205 @ Nov 7 2016, 09:35 PM)
Islam teaches us to USAHA then doa and lastly tawakal. Pandai-pandai aje dia,lebih Muslim dari Muslim lol

Lol out of topic
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Same thing with car seats. Many orang kite no use car seat cuz anak meraung tak nak duduk car seat. Bodo parents like that sila meninggal, I'll laugh at them padan muka if one day their kids' cacat or death preventable had only they used car seat. So much for ujian Tuhan, if and when that happens, tau pula meraung, menyesal nasi da jadi bubur, ptuih.

The Myvi killer club case, all those Mitsu Pajero occupants would probably be still alive had only all occupants belted up. But they didn't, I think the baby even tercampak keluar far from the car. That's why it's not enough to just be good driver, drive slow2. Suddenly idiot drivers come, you're not in seat belts, sia2 died not your fault at all. Why they didn't care about safety? Cuz of this very mentality ajal di tangan Tuhan la, I hate this mentality.

Every Proton topic bound to relate to talks about safety, cuz Proton do make some safe cars. So that's why it's a shame new Saga lower spec don't even have ABS.

It's absolutely unacceptable to me, die2 I'll never ever recommend anyone get non-premium specs. If too tight budget, please get used Preve, they're safer yet cheaper than brand new top spec Saga.

But then there's resistance cuz again, the mentality "Oh takpe la, ABS ke apa benda ntah tu takyah la, ajal di tangan Tuhan, takpe la." Top up rm6k kedekut, tapi if nak hella flush, pasang rim 18" (tapi use caplang brand tyres), bodykit caplang, LED strip here, sticker there, etc nonsense mampu pula. Idunwannaliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg
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post Nov 8 2016, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Nov 8 2016, 12:51 AM)
Preve manual would be the car to get, no need pening turbocor, noisy CVT. Already Proton no RV, it being manual make it even lower RV. But that's good news if buying it used, very value for money, yet, being NA and manual, it's more reliable and cheaper to run.
This puzzled me, I was certain govt got made 2 airbags compulsory, how Tan Chong got away with it is a mystery. Until now the almera E still only single airbag.

I remember during launch, read on pauline tan, the TC top people got say 1 airbag is enough cuz Almera has tough body, topkek. Just shows the management got chinaman mentality, stingy to even give 2 airbags, but rather promote stupid Nismo bodykit.
Same thing with car seats. Many orang kite no use car seat cuz anak meraung tak nak duduk car seat. Bodo parents like that sila meninggal, I'll laugh at them padan muka if one day their kids' cacat or death preventable had only they used car seat. So much for ujian Tuhan, if and when that happens, tau pula meraung, menyesal nasi da jadi bubur, ptuih.

The Myvi killer club case, all those Mitsu Pajero occupants would probably be still alive had only all occupants belted up. But they didn't, I think the baby even tercampak keluar far from the car. That's why it's not enough to just be good driver, drive slow2. Suddenly idiot drivers come, you're not in seat belts, sia2 died not your fault at all. Why they didn't care about safety? Cuz of this very mentality ajal di tangan Tuhan la, I hate this mentality.

Every Proton topic bound to relate to talks about safety, cuz Proton do make some safe cars. So that's why it's a shame new Saga lower spec don't even have ABS.

It's absolutely unacceptable to me, die2 I'll never ever recommend anyone get non-premium specs. If too tight budget, please get used Preve, they're safer yet cheaper than brand new top spec Saga.


But then there's resistance cuz again, the mentality "Oh takpe la, ABS ke apa benda ntah tu takyah la, ajal di tangan Tuhan, takpe la." Top up rm6k kedekut, tapi if nak hella flush, pasang rim 18" (tapi use caplang brand tyres), bodykit caplang, LED strip here, sticker there, etc nonsense mampu pula. Idunwannaliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg
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Cant agree more brah

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 8 2016, 07:53 AM
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post Mar 7 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Smoochy poohh @ Nov 6 2016, 12:06 PM)
Saga VVT 1.3 CVT Premium Fire Red

Review after driving it for 1000 km around Malaysia

Cons
-Brake pedal too high for my liking
-No mist function in wiper setting
-No auto down power window for driver side
-Will get you into trouble with speedtrap and AES because you don't even realize you had go above the speed limit.
-Clutch based cvt made the car jerked when moving from stop position.
-Seat belt warning goes off if you unbuckle the seat belt even the car is not moving.

Will update later if I find another one.

Pros
+Ride and Handling, it's balance between those two.
+Steering feedback is very direct.
+Can easily go up to 140km/h in a short distance, I reached that speed in small town road at 3am.
+Chassis felt stiff and planted on the road, Saga is a fun car to drive in the twisty.
+Factory strut bar helps in high speed cornering and minimizing chassis flex. I once go up to 120 km/h while taking a corner without realizing it.
+ - Air con is too cold
+the CVT felt smoother than conventional automatic, better that the older punch CVT, and I love it. You guys should try CVT in Saga vvt and Persona vvt.
+More confidence when overtaking because it just accelerate when I step on the throttle, no more downshift like conventional auto
+Didn't felt underpowered, just put it in L the rpm will go above 3k and can effortlessly climb  Janda Baik hill (KLK) and the hill before Menora tunnel
+NVH are the best on a car with this price.
+When it's raining only the sound of rain droplets hitting the windshield and the sound of the wipers.
+Sound System are better from the Japanese car (CARETA journalist also said this). The bass can shake the car.
+Rear fog light is useful in a very bad weather, for example very heavy rain in east coast
+No more accidentally left the fog lights on because the switch will cancel itself if you turn off the headlights.
+Fuel efficiency gets better after 5000km.
+Not a single rattle heard even after 8000km.

Defect
-Front left panel clip unattached, from the factory. ( already solved by SC )
-Front left absorber/coil making sound when going through speed bump that's too high. ( Can be replaced at SC under warranty ) (Solved)

Very rare Evo 9 Wagon parked beside my car, only 2500 unit were made.
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Which service centre you went to?
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QUOTE(asura32 @ Mar 7 2017, 02:11 PM)
Which service centre you went to?
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Raub, Pahang service center. Just a small SC.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Nov 7 2016, 01:57 PM)
I'd get a used preve if i were u, not difficult to see rm30k preve manual on mudah. They're 3,4 years old at most, not like the condition can be so run down it's not buyable at all.
I blame it on talibanism. Ala, ajal maut kat tangan Tuhan, kalau da sampai masa, dekat rumah pun boleh mati!

They can go die then, but annoyingly, they become sohai drivers endangering me n other users. Fuuuuuuu
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sebab diorg tak paham maksud tawakal. usaha dlu nk safety habis2an baru boleh tawakal. apa yang diorg buat tu bodoh serta malas kemudian sandar kepada agama. bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(the_forsaken @ Mar 21 2017, 11:58 AM)
sebab diorg tak paham maksud tawakal. usaha dlu nk safety habis2an baru boleh tawakal. apa yang diorg buat tu bodoh serta malas kemudian sandar kepada agama.  bangwall.gif
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Geram kan?

Tak leh tegur plak tu, kang kena tuduh percaya hasutan liberal, yahudi, cina, etc, nak berlagak lagi pandai dari ustaz etc.

Bila nampak rempit, kereta, mati tragik, dah tak rasa nak kesian. They made their choices, live and die by it.
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QUOTE(tortiz87 @ Mar 21 2017, 12:02 PM)
if it got abs and ebd i would hv buy it ( manual version)
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Whichever bezza you get will have it, and much more fuel efficient.

So takyah pening, takyah fikir, beli je perodua.

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