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post Jan 10 2019, 07:21 AM

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Radeon Vega II -> Radeon VII? hmm.gif

https://www.techpowerup.com/251369/amd-anno...eforce-rtx-2080

16GB HBM for 699USD!? brows.gif

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post Jan 10 2019, 11:04 AM

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That 16GB.. but what games will really utilize it atm? Very future proof I guess
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post Jan 10 2019, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 10 2019, 11:04 AM)
That 16GB.. but what games will really utilize it atm? Very future proof I guess
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They could've make it 8GB and lower the price imo.
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post Jan 10 2019, 11:30 AM

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they're basically targeting both content creators and gamers with a single card
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post Jan 10 2019, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(wikzs @ Jan 10 2019, 11:30 AM)
they're basically targeting both content creators and gamers with a single card
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Does content creator actually need that much VRAM?
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post Jan 10 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 10 2019, 07:21 AM)
Radeon Vega II -> Radeon VII?  hmm.gif

https://www.techpowerup.com/251369/amd-anno...eforce-rtx-2080

16GB HBM for 699USD!?  brows.gif
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699 United States Dollar equals 2,862.06 Malaysian Ringgit

Minus the markup prices. I bet at least RM3299.
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post Jan 10 2019, 12:23 PM

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Expensive man..... But in any case, still better value than rtx2080
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post Jan 10 2019, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2019, 11:39 AM)
Does content creator actually need that much VRAM?
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usually nope..4GB is more than enough..the mobo RAM are more important
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post Jan 10 2019, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 10 2019, 11:48 AM)
699 United States Dollar equals 2,862.06 Malaysian Ringgit

Minus the markup prices. I bet at least RM3299.
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7nm tech brutally boost to 1.8ghz.. managed to match RTX2080 not Ti.
Felt a bit let down, skip this to Navi. sad.gif
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post Jan 10 2019, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ Jan 10 2019, 12:23 PM)
Expensive man..... But in any case, still better value than rtx2080
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2080 has those features like RT & DLSS which AMD lack of...

AMD doesn't make more profits as Nvidia did. 7nm tech is more expensive than 12nm. GCN architecture is not gaming friendly.
Hope the incom Navi which will be more competitive than the aging GCN.
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post Jan 10 2019, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2019, 11:29 AM)
They could've make it 8GB and lower the price imo.
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Agree on this one. I came across article by gamers nexus stating that 8GB HBM2 cost about USD150 (excluding the interposer).

I wonder if 8GB is shaved off, can the price be around USD549-599?
~RM2248-RM2453, after tax and markup probably RM2699? Kinda sucks for us gamers though, 16GB is a huge waste in games.
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post Jan 10 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 10 2019, 12:47 PM)
2080 has those features like RT & DLSS which AMD lack of...

AMD doesn't make more profits as Nvidia did. 7nm tech is more expensive than 12nm. GCN architecture is not gaming friendly.
Hope the incom Navi which will be more competitive than the aging GCN.
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RT is legit, but DLSS is just a snake oil imo.
I wont put my money on Navi until i see real world performance.

GCN could be a gaming friendly arch but AMD simply didn't have enough budget to do it like Nvidia did.
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post Jan 10 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2019, 11:39 AM)
Does content creator actually need that much VRAM?
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if the program does not use the gpu frame buffer, nope,
vram mostly utilized by game, larger texture/AA require more vram, also DXVA accelerated 4K h265 does use 4GB of vram, you can at least play 3 4K of h265 video without choking the system to death, with Radeon VII tongue.gif
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post Jan 10 2019, 03:42 PM

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Just gonna wait to see some real benchmarks later on. Before I judge laugh.gif
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post Jan 10 2019, 05:29 PM

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So Radeon VII spec is similar to Radeon Instinct MI50, that explain 16GB VRAM on that.
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post Jan 10 2019, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2019, 02:26 PM)
RT is legit, but DLSS is just a snake oil imo.
I wont put my money on Navi until i see real world performance.

GCN could be a gaming friendly arch but AMD simply didn't have enough budget to do it like Nvidia did.
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Based on the gaming performance slides presented by AMD. The VII gaming performance gained against 2080 is very little. However, on the productivity(against V64, why no nvidia products?) performance is more impressive than gaming.


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post Jan 10 2019, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 10 2019, 05:37 PM)
Based on the gaming performance slides presented by AMD. The VII gaming performance gained against 2080 is very little. However, on the productivity(against V64, why no nvidia products?) performance is more impressive than gaming.
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Actually compare to Vega64 performance gain in gaming is higher compare to productivity.
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post Jan 10 2019, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 10 2019, 03:42 PM)
Just gonna wait to see some real benchmarks later on. Before I judge laugh.gif
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(During CNY)on Feb 7th will know the results. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2019, 11:29 AM)
They could've make it 8GB and lower the price imo.
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i totally agree, amd just dont have anything to compete with nvidia at the moment. Nvidia is also betting on RTX tech. 16gb HBM is insane totally not needed.
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 11 2019, 09:01 AM)
i totally agree, amd just dont have anything to compete with nvidia at the moment. Nvidia is also betting on RTX tech. 16gb HBM is insane totally not needed.
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Many speculated they add a display output on Radeon Instinct Mi50 and rebrand it as Radeon VII.

Big ass Radeon VII DIE shot render.
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