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post Dec 2 2018, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 1 2018, 10:34 PM)
Hmm, I don't have any overlay issue with POE.  hmm.gif
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There are two kinds of overlay:
- one that is basically another window on top of the game, this won't cause issue to PoE
- one that is inject into the game's visual output, this one causing problem with the game sweat.gif

I wiped and reinstall the driver again, hopefully the goat-damn ReLive don't go missing again doh.gif
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post Dec 2 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Dec 2 2018, 06:37 AM)
Any single threaded game must be old and should run flawlessly on these cards anyway so why bother laugh.gif

You cant compare to nvidia card prices like that because they have newer faster new gen cards while AMD dont.
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Nah, even in 2018 there are games that rape that single core.

Why i can't compare price like that? laugh.gif I thought buying GPU is mostly about performance/price within your budget unless you're bangsawan.

QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Dec 2 2018, 09:11 AM)
There are two kinds of overlay:
- one that is basically another window on top of the game, this won't cause issue to PoE
- one that is inject into the game's visual output, this one causing problem with the game  sweat.gif

I wiped and reinstall the driver again, hopefully the goat-damn ReLive don't go missing again  doh.gif
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I'm currently using Reshade + MSI Afterburner for PoE, both use inject method iinm.
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post Dec 2 2018, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 2 2018, 12:45 PM)
Nah, even in 2018 there are games that rape that single core.

Why i can't compare price like that?  laugh.gif  I thought buying GPU is mostly about performance/price within your budget unless you're bangsawan.
I'm currently using Reshade + MSI Afterburner for PoE, both use inject method iinm.
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enable layer.fx and see what happens laugh.gif
other effects are fine, it's overlaying something through injection is the problem.
but then again it might be just isolated cases that only certain people have problem with.
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post Dec 2 2018, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Dec 2 2018, 02:18 PM)
enable layer.fx and see what happens  laugh.gif
other effects are fine, it's overlaying something through injection is the problem.
but then again it might be just isolated cases that only certain people have problem with.
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Nothing dramatic happen other than the picture i put shows up. tongue.gif
Most probably that, AMD got their own overlay thingy right? Maybe that's conflicting when u try to mix with another overlay?

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post Dec 2 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 2 2018, 12:45 PM)
Nah, even in 2018 there are games that rape that single core.

Why i can't compare price like that?  laugh.gif  I thought buying GPU is mostly about performance/price within your budget unless you're bangsawan.
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No, game strong emphasis on single thread performance is not single thread games. New games mostly multithreaded now, having enough thread could mean smooth or jittery performance even with strong single thread performance.

Of course, but second hand market really depends on new cards thats replacing it or the prices wont drop. Vega has no replacement yet, while GTX1070/1080/ti already has.
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:08 AM

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Nvidia open sourced PhysX https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/PhysX-3.4
GPU accelerated Physic might be possible with Radeon, and any other GPU.
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post Dec 4 2018, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Dec 2 2018, 08:34 PM)
No, game strong emphasis on single thread performance is not single thread games. New games mostly multithreaded now, having enough thread could mean smooth or jittery performance even with strong single thread performance.

Of course, but second hand market really depends on new cards thats replacing it or the prices wont drop. Vega has no replacement yet, while GTX1070/1080/ti already has.
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I worded it wrongly then. Even when the game is multithreaded, performance will still drop if it's not balance across all CPU cores/threads.

That is true if you're Apple. Nobody going to buy a 2nd hand Vega if they can get 1080 cheaper or 1080 Ti for slightly higher price. No?

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Dec 4 2018, 11:08 AM)
Nvidia open sourced PhysX https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/PhysX-3.4
GPU accelerated Physic might be possible with Radeon, and any other GPU.
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A little bit too late? hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2018, 01:31 PM

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people that run gahnoo leenox will get vega instead of 1080.
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post Dec 4 2018, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Dec 4 2018, 01:31 PM)
people that run gahnoo leenox will get vega instead of 1080.
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Why? hmm.gif I know Hackintosh dude will get AMD but Leenox too?
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post Dec 4 2018, 04:55 PM

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no nvidia driver in gahnoo leenox
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post Dec 5 2018, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 4 2018, 01:18 PM)
I worded it wrongly then. Even when the game is multithreaded, performance will still drop if it's not balance across all CPU cores/threads.

That is true if you're Apple. Nobody going to buy a 2nd hand Vega if they can get 1080 cheaper or 1080 Ti for slightly higher price. No?
A little bit too late? hmm.gif
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Its good if there is unused CPU while gaming so background task is uninterrupted. If you mean CPU scheduler that distribute the load to proper cores, is up to the operating system to distribute it and not games, that's why Linux have superior CPU performance with HT/SMT CPU compared to Windows.

I'm still buying Vega despite the price, a lot of people did. Because Freesync, and its the best AMD have right now, the control panel looks better and offers more control than nvidia pathetic and slow control panel. AMD don't locked down the card as much as nvidia did (locking the VBIOS, finicky frequency and voltage table) so I can play with powerplay table and tune the card to my liking. If you tune Vega right it will performs great; low temps and higher performance.
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post Dec 6 2018, 11:38 PM

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Hello all,

I just bought a MSI RX580 online and found out there is free games promotion by AMD when buying a RX580. How do I check if I can get for the free games? Is it from retailer, MSI or from AMD?
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post Dec 7 2018, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Dec 6 2018, 11:38 PM)
Hello all,

I just bought a MSI RX580 online and found out there is free games promotion by AMD when buying a RX580. How do I check if I can get for the free games? Is it from retailer, MSI or from AMD?
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amd website i believe.
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post Dec 8 2018, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Dec 7 2018, 04:43 PM)
amd website i believe.
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Thanks. The redeem is from amdrewards website. But it require code from "participating retailer". After a chat with seller, they said that this promotion is not available for Malaysia region. This is weird as I saw this promotion from MSI Malaysia website. I have raised a query to MSI for this.

https://my.msi.com/Promotion/raise-the-game-fully-loaded-re2

Any forumer here able to get this promotion?

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post Dec 9 2018, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Dec 8 2018, 10:51 AM)
Thanks. The redeem is from amdrewards website. But it require code from "participating retailer". After a chat with seller, they said that this promotion is not available for Malaysia region. This is weird as I saw this promotion from MSI Malaysia website. I have raised a query to MSI for this.

https://my.msi.com/Promotion/raise-the-game-fully-loaded-re2

Any forumer here able to get this promotion?
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register your card at MSI website. they will send you a code
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post Dec 10 2018, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Dec 5 2018, 07:37 AM)
Its good if there is unused CPU while gaming so background task is uninterrupted. If you mean CPU scheduler that distribute the load to proper cores, is up to the operating system to distribute it and not games, that's why Linux have superior CPU performance with HT/SMT CPU compared to Windows.

I'm still buying Vega despite the price, a lot of people did. Because Freesync, and its the best AMD have right now, the control panel looks better and offers more control than nvidia pathetic and slow control panel. AMD don't locked down the card as much as nvidia did (locking the VBIOS, finicky frequency and voltage table) so I can play with powerplay table and tune the card to my liking. If you tune Vega right it will performs great; low temps and higher performance.
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Frametime fluctuates/dip when you max out one core, thats bad for sure. Yeah window is not quite great in that regards, that's why i really like Nvidia's approach of intercepting and balancing the load on driver side instead of relying on windows. It increase overall CPU load but not that significant in most games and the result shows.

NVCP is garbage by today standard, that true. I tried my best not to open that PoS. laugh.gif
AMD already start locking VBIOS modding with Vega anyway, they probably will keep doing that for upcoming GPUs. What you mean by finicky frequency?

That's a thing, majority of consumer if not all want their shiny new purchase to work great out of the box unlike you?. If i'm just a typical consumer i probably return or sell my old 7950 when it start artifacting out of the box.

Yeah Freesync is great, but some lower end Freesync monitor is not great.

I mean do you really skip this and purchase a 2nd hand Vega56 for 1.5k instead?
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post Dec 10 2018, 01:56 PM

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I wonder anyone here know wat heppen if you encounter the "Application has been blocked from accessing Graphics hardware"?
windows 10, used R9-280x, with a i5 750 and 6gb ram.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 10 2018, 01:49 PM)
What you mean by finicky frequency?

That's a thing, majority of consumer if not all want their shiny new purchase to work great out of the box unlike you?. If i'm just a typical consumer i probably return or sell my old 7950 when it start artifacting out of the box.

Yeah Freesync is great, but some lower end Freesync monitor is not great.

I mean do you really skip this and purchase a 2nd hand Vega56 for 1.5k instead?
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What I mean by finicky frequency and voltage table is MSI Afterburner allows to control the voltage as per frequency curve on Pascal cards but it seems to have a mind of its own, everytime I undervolt too much it refuses to reach that frequency and stuck on lower frequency. A lot of new cards too seems to do this, Vega included. If I undervolt, example 900mV on Vega the frequency will hover around 1350MHz on complex games and 14xxMHz on simpler games disregard whatever I set. Its ok-ish since the card clever enough to know its own limit and keeps stable but very hard to do clock-to-clock comparison.

I love tweaking, almost everything I have is non-stock and modded in some way or another whether in software or hardware so Im a big exception from regular people.

I traded 980Ti with Vega56 for RM300 so win-win for me laugh.gif
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Dec 10 2018, 02:00 PM)
I traded 980Ti with Vega56 for RM300 so win-win for me laugh.gif
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you definitely got a great deal.
980ti is faster than 1060 6gb but slower than 1070. doh.gif

if i want to buy a 980ti i would only pay rm500 max. even that i don't want it.
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QUOTE(acapniamaxtor @ Dec 9 2018, 11:12 PM)
register your card at MSI website. they will send you a code
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I have registered the card, but I didn't get any code. I have raised a query to MSI for this.

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