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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Ramjade
post Dec 18 2016, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 18 2016, 09:47 AM)
Cool.. how much do you need for all that?
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Test is free of charge. POEMS application is also free of charge. Most funds in SG also like Malaysia. Min 1k (but in SGD) except those US funds where it might be USD1k. POEMS insist on commission of oath for documents unless you're walk in customer. No online application. All have to do old fashion way (mail in to them). sweat.gif Sekarang zaman apa??? bangwall.gif ranting.gif

If you have OCBC/DBS SG, you can do ninja trick (different from FSM MY ninja trick biggrin.gif ), buy at 0% SC from FSM, transfer all out (SG transfer is not like Malaysia UT where we have to sell first)

If transfer, will try with money changer SGD100-200. If can masuk, then increase rclxms.gif But first thing first wait for bank application to be approved. No bank account, No POEMS.

Reason for trying to buy SG UT:
1. FSM MY does not have the list of funds as their SG counterpart.
2. Cheaper SC at only 0.75% or 0% (malaysia is 2% ranting.gif )
3. When I sell, the money won't be in Malaysia (which means the value is preserved)

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 18 2016, 09:48 AM)
Sure to be.. although there are probably better returns for that kind of money smile.gif
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I personally know a few platinum status people in FSM/UT through agents, not in this forum, because they believe that UT is too slow for small amount of money, therefore need to play by volume. Every small % movement is a huge amount which you can skim it off when you feel right. Could go both ways of course.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 18 2016, 09:55 AM)
Test is free of charge. POEMS application is also free of charge. Most funds in SG also like Malaysia. Min 1k (but in SGD) except those US funds where it might be USD1k. POEMS insist on commission of oath for documents unless you're walk in customer. No online application. All have to do old fashion way (mail in to them). sweat.gif Sekarang zaman apa???  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif

If you have OCBC/DBS SG, you can do ninja trick (different from FSM MY ninja trick  biggrin.gif ), buy at 0% SC from FSM, transfer all out (SG transfer is not like Malaysia UT where we have to sell first)

If transfer, will try with money changer SGD100-200. If can masuk, then increase  rclxms.gif But first thing first wait for bank application to be approved. No bank account, No POEMS.
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Can you open a bank account as a non-resident?

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 18 2016, 09:57 AM)
Can you open a bank account as a non-resident?
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Hard but I submitted my application from Malaysia side. Let's see if it works. If not, I have to walk into Singapore. Walk in is hard as they need working permit (all SG banks but there are exception). Before this, just walk in any banks and they will accept you. Singapore tighten the rules after you know what la whistling.gif ranting.gif bangwall.gif

That's why the test is important. That way, I can show them that I am serious about investing by passing their test even though I don't have a SG work permit. That's also my backup plan.

Test:
1) SGX test
2. SAS-ABS E-Learning

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post Dec 18 2016, 11:02 AM

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I am not at 93% Equities... Aligned with FSM recomendation... tongue.gif
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post Dec 18 2016, 11:34 AM

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Did you guys use the fsm apps in Google play?
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 18 2016, 11:34 AM)
Did you guys use the fsm apps in Google play?
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me. I'm lovin it
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post Dec 18 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 18 2016, 11:34 AM)
Did you guys use the fsm apps in Google play?
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Buggy piece of software, not for serious use. Only for casual fund monitoring or graphing.

Often need to enter fund name two times, then only sticks.

And then when FSM server restart, no way to remove stale cookies except delete/reinstall or root remove certain cookie files.
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 18 2016, 11:34 AM)
Did you guys use the fsm apps in Google play?
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I don't install/touch any financial stuff with my phone other than TAC.
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post Dec 18 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 18 2016, 01:16 PM)
I don't install/touch any financial stuff with my phone other than TAC.
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Mobile financial apps are usually written not to remember the user name and password, ie every time one has to relogin.

If you use a mobile browser to login, and it usually is set to remember username and password, that is more terrible than an app. If one steals your phone he will be able to relogin using Chrome or Firefox, but cannot relogin using the apps.

The same happens to many of the Internet banking apps.

In other words, apps are actually safer ( if the apps have been written following safety ).

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 18 2016, 11:34 AM)
Did you guys use the fsm apps in Google play?
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Not enough features to justify it, space is limited smile.gif I can get more info with the website, why would I need an app smile.gif

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QUOTE(opticc @ Dec 18 2016, 03:10 PM)
platinum is howmuch, no one have that here?
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That info Is available in FSM website, u can find there smile.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 18 2016, 09:57 AM)
Can you open a bank account as a non-resident?
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Yes possible as an OCBC premier banking customer, but apparently the rules are gonna be stricter come 1/1/17. In order to have an SG account, need to transfer about $200K and all will be sorted by the RM there.
I was considering earlier but due to multiple responsibilities, I had to delay the transfer. Still considering though. However OCBC SG has many products that promise returns which are not too bad , but then again, it's a bank we are talking about.

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QUOTE(drbone @ Dec 18 2016, 03:26 PM)
Yes possible as an OCBC premier banking customer, but apparently the rules are gonna be stricter come 1/1/17. In order to have an SG account, need to transfer about $200K and all will be sorted by the RM there.
I was considering earlier but due to multiple responsibilities, I had to delay the transfer. Still considering though. However OCBC SG has many products that promise returns which are not too bad , but then again, its a bank we are talking about.
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Can some explain to me why it is necessary to have a Sg bank account ? How about just TT money and invest into money market and then later move to your target funds ? When selling, dump it back to money market.

Wait a minute ,.... How to bring back the money later ?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 18 2016, 03:31 PM)
Can some explain to me why it is necessary to have a Sg bank account ? How about just TT money and invest into money market and then later move to your target funds ? When selling, dump it back to money market.

Wait a minute ,.... How to bring back the money later ?
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hmm.gif try this...hope the answer is hidden indirectly in there....
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/home/...strictions.svdo
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 18 2016, 03:31 PM)
Can some explain to me why it is necessary to have a Sg bank account ? How about just TT money and invest into money market and then later move to your target funds ? When selling, dump it back to money market.

Wait a minute ,.... How to bring back the money later ?
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You can.
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Wire / Telegraphic Transfer

Payment instructions will be available at the confirmation page of the buy process. If you need help, drop us an e-mail at clienthelp@fundsupermart.com. Note that bank charges will be incurred for Wire / Telegraphic Transfer.

Foreign cheque is not advisable due to higher bank charges incurred and a longer clearance time before the order can be processed.

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When you execute a 'Sell' transaction to sell your funds, we can arrange to remit the sales proceeds back to your bank account in USD or SGD. At the moment, we do not remit any other currencies internationally. Any telegraphic transfer charges incurred will be deducted from your sales proceeds.


Keep TT, the TT charges and bank rates will kill you.

For me, I am not bringing that money back. Unless really needed. That money stays overseas.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 18 2016, 04:49 PM)
You can.
Keep TT, the TT charges and bank rates will kill you.

For me, I am not bringing that money back. Unless really needed. That money stays overseas.
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That's why i say TT into money market first a lump sum, no need to do so many times.

TT rate is much worse than from Malaysia bank account to Sg bank account ?
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Guys, with China's boom in Information Technology sector and the emergence of giant tech companies modeling western's one, what do you guys think about CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity Fund? I was quite skeptical about China but a lot of recent articles convinced me to try it. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(em0kia @ Dec 18 2016, 05:04 PM)
Guys, with China's boom in Information Technology sector and the emergence of giant tech companies modeling western's one, what do you guys think about CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity Fund? I was quite skeptical about China but a lot of recent articles convinced me to try it.  hmm.gif
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IMHO, I think china is a bit scary. Look at all the news article. Property bubble, capital control, international china shopping spree sanction, china's fx reserve falling rapidly, the weakening yuan, Latest seizure of US underwater drone...

No harm putting 5-10% in it. Btw, TA tech does invest in china tech.

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