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FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Dec 14 2016, 03:37 PM) Okey...that methodology was for recommendation of existing funds. What I probably wanted to know more is how FSM selects which funds to bring in for investor like us. You see, there are a lot more funds in the market which are not offered in FSM. Thanks. it's not fsm that is to blame for this but the way BNM regulates how we invest our monies. Singapore is a financial hub and rightly so but the protectionist Goverment of ours continues to hinder us. then again some may disagree that it's better to have less choices than too many choices.
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kimyee73
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Dec 14 2016, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 14 2016, 02:45 PM) So when you are old, you will dedicate 10% of your life savings to an ultra-high-risk investment, and depend on it to finance your living expenses? No.no.no.. you misunderstood. I'll depend on the other 90% for my living expense. The projection is your life saving will last for your life time, for example, by next 20 or 30 years, you'll used up all your life saving. Assuming your ROI will take care of inflation and extra spending. The 10% is to grow your capital or at least maintain it. That is the plan anyway. If you screwed-up the 10%, you're still ok, may be nothing left for your kids after you die on schedule
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 14 2016, 04:36 PM) No.no.no.. you misunderstood. I'll depend on the other 90% for my living expense. The projection is your life saving will last for your life time, for example, by next 20 or 30 years, you'll used up all your life saving. Assuming your ROI will take care of inflation and extra spending. The 10% is to grow your capital or at least maintain it. That is the plan anyway. If you screwed-up the 10%, you're still ok, may be nothing left for your kids after you die on schedule  I do not intend to have kids anyways so care for much about passing on. maybe sell my house and live in an apartment then place it in a will to be passed on to charity.
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puchongite
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Dec 14 2016, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 14 2016, 02:29 PM) I think it should be the same as any other portfolio. Just need to top-up and rebalance regularly. One thing, when stock market crash like 2007/8, don't hesitate to move large portion to bond or money market, and remember to move back to equity when things going from bad to less bad  When the market is crashing, how does not identify it early ? If we wait until it is fairly obvious, a large part of it is already gone. This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 14 2016, 04:56 PM
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SUSDavid83
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Dec 14 2016, 04:56 PM
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Strategists Predict Growth in Asian Markets for 20171. China, India remain overweight targets among strategists 2. Trump trade policies, stronger U.S. dollar to impact Asia URL: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...egy-predictions
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2016, 04:55 PM) When the market is crashing, how does not identify it early ? If we wait under it is fairly obvious, a large part of it is already gone.  just like stock trading. you can set a notification for yourself when is the lowest comfort level you want to lose your capital. with stocks we have a floor price but with UT it is a bit hard. maybe we could skim the profits and lock it into money market? let the capital run through the course and weather the storm. once it has passed then reinvest the profit back in?
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puchongite
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Dec 14 2016, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 14 2016, 04:56 PM) Strategists Predict Growth in Asian Markets for 20171. China, India remain overweight targets among strategists 2. Trump trade policies, stronger U.S. dollar to impact Asia URL: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...egy-predictions So it is China, India, not Asia Pac .....
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2016, 05:19 PM) So it is China, India, not Asia Pac .....  some articles mention China as all doom and gloom and India too. take everything with a pinch of salt
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spiderman17
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Dec 14 2016, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 14 2016, 02:17 PM) Sell them almost monthly. For sustaining I'm following some concept from the book The Art of Investing and Portfolio Management, using 3-tiered portfolio strategy. Tier 1 is for short term consisting of bond & cash that can provide 2 years of cash flow need. Mine are FI UT, cash etc. Tier 2 is for mid term, 2 to 10 years need consisting a balanced of stock & bond. Mine are EPF, UT, stocks & ETF. Tier 3 is long term growth, mainly growth stocks. I'm using resources UT & stocks, stock options & forex for this. interesting...thank you very much for sharing. i read about a recently retired blogger in Sg...he uses his 3-tap solution to sustain his retirement. quite like yours too
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TakoC
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Dec 14 2016, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 13 2016, 11:12 PM) I'm curious. how much did you make from two years in Ponzi 1 2 years+ = 45% ROI there about. Good times. Now cannot already. No one answered means no one invest in Quantum already? Lol. This post has been edited by TakoC: Dec 14 2016, 07:03 PM
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TakoC
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Dec 14 2016, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 14 2016, 10:27 AM) Let see... I have some since 3 years ago, and last top up end of last year My IRR is 10.95% for this fund  don't have IRR figure. But i suspect higher than that for mine. Not by big margin
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 14 2016, 07:02 PM) 2 years+ = 45% ROI there about. Good times. Now cannot already. No one answered means no one invest in Quantum already? Lol. a few of us here have picked up Quantum just that they may be busy trying to chase for last week of 2016 sales to get bonus. kimyee73 aye I read through your 3 tiered approach and this is similar to the pocket within the pocket approach. one pocket for unit trust and within that pocket there's a long term, mid term and short term pockets and another pocket called stocks which has the same only in different industry with varying dividends and returns. thank you for putting a name onto this. I'll read up more.
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twhong_91
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Dec 14 2016, 08:43 PM
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titan all time high yo. 8.xx% now.. lol
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puchongite
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Dec 14 2016, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Dec 14 2016, 08:43 PM) titan all time high yo. 8.xx% now.. lol Not just titan. Almost all US funds are performing well. Manulife US. Ta global tech. EI global leader. ...... This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 14 2016, 08:58 PM
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T231H
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Dec 14 2016, 09:03 PM
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Unit Trust Investment Fair: What and Where to Invest in 2017 https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...st-in-2017-78147 Jan ...Penang 14 Jan ..KL 0.5%SC on all participation FHs....
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drbone
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Dec 14 2016, 09:48 PM
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How safe is it investing using FSM? A noob question.
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kimyee73
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Dec 14 2016, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2016, 04:55 PM) When the market is crashing, how does not identify it early ? If we wait until it is fairly obvious, a large part of it is already gone.  There is no sure fire method of identifying. Some would set a stop limit, such as -10% from high watermark. Some would use moving average crossover. Some would probably asking for opinion in this forum. Personally I would use indicator on S&P 500. Beware of false-call though. Once triggered, you can either skim all your profit into MM like what mentioned by Avangelice, or reallocate certain percentage from equity to MM. If the crash is really big like 2008, it is better late than never. In 2008, the indicator actually triggered couple of months before the other 80% of drop from S&P 500 all time high. Based on about 40% drop in 2008, if you take action then, it already drop 8% but would have avoided the other 32% drop.
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T231H
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Dec 14 2016, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(drbone @ Dec 14 2016, 09:48 PM) How safe is it investing using FSM? A noob question.  safe as in what? chances of losing invested monies due to DIY or chances of being cheated or FSM platform being sort of just a Ponzi scheme? or what do you mean by "safe"?
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adele123
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Dec 14 2016, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(drbone @ Dec 14 2016, 09:48 PM) How safe is it investing using FSM? A noob question.  https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...-and-Safety-230part of the FAQ you should read. not noob, valid question although FAQ is there. if word of mouth is what you need, i guess the number of respondents here are a fairly good number?
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Avangelice
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Dec 14 2016, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2016, 08:57 PM) Not just titan. Almost all US funds are performing well. Manulife US. Ta global tech. EI global leader. ...... too late to purchase tho. I saw the charts if we buy now we will be purchasing at the apex curve. that's just me lah. if wanted to buy should have purchased right after the elections
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