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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Dec 11 2016, 06:11 PM

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post Dec 11 2016, 06:24 PM

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post Dec 11 2016, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 10 2016, 09:24 PM)
I don't suggest you to read all the post here. To be fair, the post in this version is trending one direction. Alot of new investors talking about rebalancing and skimming profits. And to be fair, they are new, while they mean good intention in giving their opinions, please understand a certain level bias exist...

I think it may be more beneficial for you to read the articles on fsm. Take the information but form your own judgement. After all, fsm articles are written by humans not fortune tellers.

On a more objective view, if you do comparison between malaysia funds and non-malaysian funds and looking at performance over long period >5 years, you will find that definitely the malaysian funds are better.

2 reasons i can think of:
1) cause lack of forex to make it more volatile.
2) non-malaysian funds have not always been that great last time (possibly due to lack of expertise, or other reasons, but i think pinkspider here mentioned once, many years ago people suffering badly due to china fund and barely struggling to break even, even now). Caveat: Lately it has been really good, but please note that this is mainly due to weak ringgit. I am unable to objectively assess whether without this effect, would the funds be showing such good return or a positive return in fact (a message i have been trying to caution new investors but falling on deaf ears).
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I thought your portfolio is almost entirely foreign? tongue.gif
Anyway, I think MY funds did really well in 2009 to 2013 due to the hot money from QE in the developed nations and we were promising in terms of GDP growth etc. Until you know what blew up basically

And yeah, bias do exist in every forum, typically forums would be dominated by people who talk the loudest, not necessary the one with the right views.

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PS. I cannot stand people who do not give any input to the conversation and never once above I read any facts or numbers from them to back up their principles but instead chose to be passive aggressive by calling us nay sayers. I would suggest if you cannot be nice or be productive do kindly not post anything at all
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Well, since you asked me not to post sarcastic remarks, I thought you could use the same feedback as well. I know your post count on this version is remarkably high, but doesn't mean that some of the old timers don't have good and objective views to share. IMHO adele is one of the more level headed ones around, even more so than me

QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 11 2016, 02:05 PM)
On a more serious note:

eUT which is Phillip Cap's UTF distribution division is not their main bread and butter business. Phillip Capital is actually a fund house, that is. their main core business is stock-broking, asset management (they actually have their own in-house UTF - which suxs actually when compared to KGF / Kapchai).

The eUT biz is more of a by the way kind of biz. That is why you will notice they do not put much effort into it, unlike FSM. FSM is more serious into this biz.

Phillip Cap has their own UTF and they also create mini customized UTF for individual HNWI (min invest RM 400K). Those are their core biz, not those RM 100.00 per transaction kucing kurap biz.

Xuzen.
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I think these days the mini portfolio goes all the way down to retail investors; with EPF-MIS they are willing to do even for 30k. But returns sucks la, so what if can custom made

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post Dec 12 2016, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 11 2016, 11:07 PM)
And yeah, bias do exist in every forum, typically forums would be dominated by people who talk the loudest, not necessary the one with the right views.
Well, since you asked me not to post sarcastic remarks, I thought you could use the same feedback as well. I know your post count on this version is remarkably high, but doesn't mean that some of the old timers don't have good and objective views to share. IMHO adele is one of the more level headed ones around, even more so than me

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it's one thing about having different views but another when she's being a little passive aggressive about it and disrespectful when the vocal views do not match hers by telling a new comer that we are wrong. as always I provide objective information behind the reason as to why I invest my monies. any criticism is good as long as it is respectful.

being rude and sarcastic, this I cannot take and she's never around to provide input to new members so why start with one by insulting others? also she clearly edited her comment right after I called her out.

Anyways I'll just ignore her from now on since I care not of what she thinks. either way my belief is that we keep the thread going with informative post, it will be archived to educate the next generation of investors so that it can be a quick tuition for them.

so let us not derail the topic further and hope for a fruitful week ahead.

Regards

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post Dec 12 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 12 2016, 01:33 AM)
it's one thing about having different views but another when she's being a little passive aggressive about it and disrespectful when the vocal views do not match hers by telling a new comer that we are wrong. as always I provide objective information behind the reason as to why I invest my monies. any criticism is good as long as it is respectful.

being rude and sarcastic, this I cannot take and she's never around to provide input to new members so why start with one by insulting others? also she clearly edited her comment right after I called her out.

Anyways I'll just ignore her from now on since I care not of what she thinks. either way my belief is that we keep the thread going with informative post, it will be archived to educate the next generation of investors so that it can be a quick tuition for them.

so let us not derail the topic further and hope for a fruitful week ahead.

Regards
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Friend,

Why you so serious?

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post Dec 12 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 11 2016, 11:07 PM)
Anyway, I think MY funds did really well in 2009 to 2013 due to the hot money from QE in the developed nations and we were promising in terms of GDP growth etc. Until you know what blew up basically

I think these days the mini portfolio goes all the way down to retail investors; with EPF-MIS they are willing to do even for 30k. But returns sucks la, so what if can custom made
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MYR 30K? Biz must be bad huh?

I have always thought that their main business, their signature dish so to say is where they allow EPF-MIS participant to manage their own stock trading in the KLSE? What was it called? ..... Discretionary or Advisory account or something like that.

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post Dec 12 2016, 11:25 AM

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What's wrong with Asian market today? Seems to be in shit. Lucky no trading for Malaysia, else will also in deeper shit.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 11 2016, 06:24 PM)
1 of the Ten Golden Rules of Investing by Aberdeen Assets Mgmt
http://www.aberdeenasset.com.au/aam.nsf/te...eshk/rules7to10
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It's very challenging for individual investors to subscribe to rule #8 completely as v r human beings
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eunittrust do have more 1% sales charge promo compare to FSM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 12 2016, 11:27 AM)
eunittrust do have more 1% sales charge promo compare to FSM
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How many times in a year?
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post Dec 12 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 12 2016, 11:25 AM)
What's wrong with Asian market today? Seems to be in shit. Lucky no trading for Malaysia, else will also in deeper shit.
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Feds going to rise rates what.
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almost everymonth
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post Dec 12 2016, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 12 2016, 11:35 AM)
Feds going to rise rates what.
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Is this fed rates hike going to bring down Europe or USA?

USA was all time high last Friday.
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post Dec 12 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 12 2016, 11:27 AM)
eunittrust do have more 1% sales charge promo compare to FSM
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What about 0%sc, how frequent?
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post Dec 12 2016, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 12 2016, 11:36 AM)
almost everymonth
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fsm is catching up. i believe 2015/16 they only had the Merdeka promo. this year I see more and more 1% charges on selected funds.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 12 2016, 11:45 AM)
Is this fed rates hike going to bring down Europe or USA?

USA was all time high last Friday.
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I think they have already priced their assets based on the possibility of the Fed hike. they as in fund managers and stock brokers
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 12 2016, 01:33 AM)
it's one thing about having different views but another when she's being a little passive aggressive about it and disrespectful when the vocal views do not match hers by telling a new comer that we are wrong. as always I provide objective information behind the reason as to why I invest my monies. any criticism is good as long as it is respectful.

being rude and sarcastic, this I cannot take and she's never around to provide input to new members so why start with one by insulting others? also she clearly edited her comment right after I called her out.

Anyways I'll just ignore her from now on since I care not of what she thinks. either way my belief is that we keep the thread going with informative post, it will be archived to educate the next generation of investors so that it can be a quick tuition for them.

so let us not derail the topic further and hope for a fruitful week ahead.

Regards
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Just chill bro..
Don't be so serious..
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:31 PM

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Tried login to FSM today and got error. Anyone else seeing the same thing? Thanks.
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 12 2016, 09:27 AM)
Friend,

Why you so serious?

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 12 2016, 12:13 PM)
Just chill bro..
Don't be so serious..
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lol I'm cool as a cucumber after a hearty breakfast. thanks brothers


QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 12 2016, 12:31 PM)
Tried login to FSM today and got error. Anyone else seeing the same thing? Thanks.
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I think they are either doing maintenence to their system or maybe revamping/upgrading the layout. two weeks back I noticed a change in the website layout
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 12 2016, 12:31 PM)
Tried login to FSM today and got error. Anyone else seeing the same thing? Thanks.
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They use cookies heavily, even for the mobile apps. If you are technical enough, you can choose to only clears all cookies belong to fundsupermarket, that will fixed the problem. Or you less technical, you clear all web data (which includes cookies).

Everytime they restart their web server such problem will come back.

Despite the advanceness of their web interface, they are still bugged with this. LOL.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 12 2016, 12:43 PM)
They use cookies heavily, even for the mobile apps. If you are technical enough, you can choose to only clears all cookies belong to fundsupermarket, that will fixed the problem. Or you less technical, you clear all web data (which includes cookies).

Everytime they restart their web server such problem will come back.

Despite the advanceness of their web interface, they are still bugged with this. LOL.
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I'll try clearing my cookies or cache on mobile. I don't want to Uninstall and reinstall the app and having to build up the watch list all over again.

add on.

remove cache on the app. doesn't work. looks like I have to remove all data. fml.looks like i need to redo my watch list and portfolio on the mobile app.

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