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 【Micro Four Thirds】Olympus & Panasonic Thread V8, OM System OM-3 Arriving In Malaysia 2025

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post Dec 16 2017, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Dec 15 2017, 11:38 PM)
I have been searching for a pocket dynamite for some time but mainstream reviews seem to promote Sony and Fuji so somehow m43 till now never in the spotlight...

How's the AF and low light performance?
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Panasonic and Olympus re-invented photography using small-sized bodies way back in 2009 with their offerings GF1 and EP1 in an entirely new m4/3 sensor enabling affordable and small camera bodies, which I think is epic. It is the turning point in how small-bodied camera came into the mainstream by storm, eating up the FF and large-sensor camera market bit-by-bit. The big boys laughed at us m4/3 early adopters. They are not laughing now and in fact they have become new converts in mirror-less camera system throwing out their own version of proprietary mirror-less cameras to counter m4/3. Sadly or not they are nowhere near the m4/3 system. Just look at the number of lenses we have and the number of innovations from the m4/3 camp.

The Panasonic 12-32mm f3.5-f5.6 is quite an engineering feat (to give credit where they are due) so hats off to those engineers behind it. It is a mega O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilisation) lens meaning it has a stabiliser built into its tiny body and it can work in tandem (DUAL IS) with capable m4/3 bodies. It also has tiny AF motors built in and they are really quite.

AF is pretty fast. Faster on newer bodies (comparing G6 vs GX8). Low light performance is average considering at best its widest opening is f3.5 (at 12mm) and progressing towards f5.6 at the longest end (32mm). However, if you have a newer body you can always crank-up the ISO . It is originally offered as the kit lens on the GM series body, GM1 and GM5. It now lives on my G6 permanently.
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post Dec 21 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(meamth @ Dec 20 2017, 06:09 PM)
Hi this is shot entirely with GH5!
3 days of shoot at Yogyakarta!
My MTV

Lens used:
Nocticron 17.5mm
Laowa 7.5mm
Oly 45mm 1.2

Gears used:
Glidecam HD2000
DJI Phantom 4
GH5x2

Another example of my work:

Elfiraloy youtube channel
Hands down, GH5 is the camera of the year.
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Another Laowa 7.5 user, great!

Fantastic work!
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post Dec 21 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(meamth @ Dec 21 2017, 01:53 PM)
Thank you! rclxms.gif
7.5mm laowa is an amazing lens! bang for buck.. Planning to get another stabilizer just to accommodate different lenses.
For instance my primary lens is Nocticron 17.5mm for glidecam,
planning to get another stabilizer maybe a gimbal to put my 7.5mm or 45mm settings on it. That stabilized tight tracking shots are amazing with Gh5 IBIS.
and auto focus using GH5 is great if used right.
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I have just received my Stiffen's Steadicam Volt, meant for mobile phones and action cameras but I want try a small m4/3 body (slapped with the Laowa 7.5/f2) and see if the setup can balance well or not. Haven't find any time to do it yet. But your videos dang good, especially when we know its taken with a gh5!

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post Feb 3 2018, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 2 2018, 04:21 PM)
Didn't get to shoot the Blood Moon 2 days ago cause i suck, but yesterday's Full Moon was super bright so I tried to shoot it again with my 100-400

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Panasonic Lumix DMC-G85 + Panasonic Leica 100-400mm f4.0-6.3 | 400mm | ISO 100 | 1/160 sec | f6.3 |
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If a series of images are shot and stacked, the panny 100-400 sure will churn out some incredible photos.

I only had a MF Tokina 100-300mm on my GX8 and this is what i managed to get, not the sharpest but sure is a rare sight, 300mm f8 or f11, a little cloudy at just after 10pm when the blood moon started to fade:

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post Feb 3 2018, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 3 2018, 10:36 AM)
Kakaka it was only from 1 photo,and I ran it through Lightroom and ON1 Photo Raw 2017
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The lowest I had come across for the Panny 100-400 was on ebay, for about RM4,600! I am still waiting, patiently sweat.gif
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post Feb 21 2018, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 21 2018, 10:12 PM)
looks like this  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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Nice thumbup.gif

How much you got your G9 for?
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post Feb 22 2018, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 21 2018, 11:51 PM)
RM8k lor
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Local seller in Penang/KL?
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post Feb 23 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 21 2018, 10:12 PM)
looks like this  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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Size bigger than FF Sony A9 and aps-c Canon 77d already LoL rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 23 2018, 05:48 PM)
lol

after trying on with the grip liao, i'm considering to sell of the other unopened grip later on. too heavy liao and can't fit my bag ad

the A9 and A7Rmk3 really don't feel good when i tried them at KLCC last weekend. the shutter clicks are so lame, and the body feels like a rectangular box  sweat.gif
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True, I dislike the A9 styling too, can't imagine me paying over 20k for a FF with that kind of design, I rather go for Canon's or Nikon's FF and buy a few lenses with the same amount of money. I am now thinking either a 80d or an FF for birding purposes but I am also considering the G9 too, but with the specs coming the G9, I am not too excited. I am thinking of Tamron 150-600 G2 for the lens.
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And I found this on Ebay:

G9


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post Feb 24 2018, 10:52 AM

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Has anybody considered this for bird photography using a m4/3 body:

1. Tamron 150-600 g2 + Electronic Adapter w/AF (+/- rm5.5k)

2. Tamron 100-400 OR Sigma 100-400 + Electronic Adapter w/AF (+/- rm4k)

3. Pana L 100-400 (+/- rm5k)

I am kind of leaning towards option 1 for reach but scared of the size and weight, option 2 seems the cheapest but may not necessarily the best in view of the adapter used and option 3 might probably the best for image quality and I wonder if there's any official teleconverter for the PL lens.

Any thoughts ideas comments are most welcomed and appreciated and have my thanks in advance. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Feb 24 2018, 11:23 AM)
Cheap! But the seller is trustworthy or not? Later kena con die

And I doubt Panasonic Malaysia will entertain any warranty claims for these units
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With any kind of purchase, whether local or overseas, there's always a risk involved, just pray that the copy you get is without fault. However judging from track record the seller is top notch moreover a 12mths wrty is provided and the item comes with a return policy. In any case, caution is always advised.
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I have got GAS attack during the CNY holidays and this is what I have gotten myself into😅

A Canon EF 70-300mm f4 - 5.6 IS II USM lens + a Viltrox EF-M1 (EF-M4/3) electronic adapter

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AF works perfect at all zoom except the long end which it hunts a bit. Images were very sharp. The IS is awesome too. I am also acquiring the super tele Tamron sp 150-600mm g2 for use either on my GX8 or the Canon 80d.

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Feb 26 2018, 06:15 PM)
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(FT5) Full Leica 50-200mm f/2.8-4.0 specs leaked

https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-full-leica-50-...0-specs-leaked/

    Supports 4K movie shooting with latest optical design and high speed / high precision AF
    Telephoto zoom lens compatible with teleconverter
    Filter diameter: 67 mm
    Size: φ 76 mm × 132 mm
    Weight: 655 g
    Japanese reservation start date: February 27, 2018
    Expected release date: May 24, 2018
I really love Panasonic approach to lens design. They are always lighter and smaller than Olympus. At 655g and the size similar to 100-300mm and compatible with teleconverter, I need to save money to buy this!!!!
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I have been thinking of the PL 100-400 for sometime already but just couldn’t bring myself to fork out 5-6k for it, until recently when I came across the Tamron 150-600 which is adaptable on a micro 4/3 body through the use of an electronic adapter with full functionality between camera and body, not all of course but features like autofocus is working fine, lens IS is working fine. Recent products from companies like Kipon and Viltrox are chasing up with metabones, the only company who produces electronic adapters and charging exorbitant prices by the thousands.

I got Viltrox EF M1 for about rm450 and the Canon EF 70-300 IS II USM lens for about rm1500 and after testing today they do work on my GX8, meaning from now on the possibilities of lenses is endless! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Feb 28 2018, 04:49 PM)
You look like a magician to me. Haha. The idea is good too because Canon lenses can be sold easier than m43 and at much higher prices.  thumbup.gif
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Ha ha LoL laugh.gif

I just bought yesterday a Canon 50mm f1.8 STM and now arranging a Tamron 150-600mm G2 + a Canon EFS 10-18mm lens, I will see how they go. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Mar 1 2018, 01:00 PM)
nice!
the canon ef 70-300mm f4 lens is an average lens.
i guess using it on smaller sensor body makes it excellent as it covers mostly at the center where it is sharpest.
another advantage of using smaller crop sensor hehe!

give sample pics bro!  thumbup.gif
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This Canon EF 70-300mm IS USM II is actually a new breed unlike its earlier siblings, this particular lens has some newest technology especially its NANO USM 1st introduced in a consumer grade lens not even found in the L series, very fast and silent AF. This lens costs me about RM1.5k bought in HK unlike its other siblings which cost 700-800rm only vs rm2-2.5k for this new lens in local stores. And it is very very sharp compared even to the L series 100-400 mk II.

On smaller crop sensor especially like our 2X m4/3 sensor the IQ is quite far compared to if this 70-300 II is mounted on a FF like the 5d or 6d, which this lens is designed for. Nevertheless it is still very very sharp to my eyes even at the long end of 300mm. Haven’t got a real chance to really test it out yet but I will.

Look what the GAS syndrome has done to me sweat.gif

The cheap but awesome 50/1.8 STM

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QUOTE(foodskiver @ Mar 1 2018, 06:14 PM)
I have always wondering, if 50mm lens, adapted on MFT, whats the focal length?

50mm x 2 = 100mm?
aperture become f3.6?
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You are correct thumbsup.gif

Although the aperture are argued on by different groups who says the aperture will also double, however if one look through the viewfinder the info on the screen will say its the largest aperture in this case f1.8, and you would notice too that the bokeh (blurred out-of-focus area) and the focal plane (very thin) appears to be consistent with a large aperture, not double at f3.6, and which is 2 -3 stops away.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 1 2018, 09:44 PM)
Cool, where did you bought the adapter from ?  hmm.gif
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Lazada malaysian site bro, Viltrox EF-M1 for rm466. Here's the page: viltrox ef-m1

OR this one:

viltrox ef-m1

Got it in about 8 days.
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Mar 2 2018, 07:54 AM)
some adapter got increase aperture by 1 stop and magnification 0.71x
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Yes you are correct, the Viltrox EF-M2 will do that, known commonly as the speed booster/focal reducer, having a group of glasses built-in to increase magnification and aperture at least by 1 stop. Using the EF-M2 will reduce your focal length by .71x, for example if I mount a Canon 50mm f1.8 I will get a 35.5mm FOV and gain a one stop aperture of f1.3 due to its light gathering ability.


QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Mar 2 2018, 01:15 PM)
m43:-
focal length is doubled.
DOF is doubled.
Aperture remains the same - meaning the amount of light getting through to your sensor remains the same.
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I beg to differ with the statement that "the amount of light getting through to your sensor remains the same" as this will defeat the purpose of the speed booster, some of which cost a lot of money. Speed booster, as the term suggest it is to boost the speed of the lens. However the statement is true if is for the "no-glass"version like the Viltrox EF-M1.

It has been reported that some camera bodies is capable of showing a lower f value on the camera Lcd screen as oppose to what the lens is capable of. How is this possible is beyond my understanding but that is what a speed booster is supposed to do, boosting the lens speed from what it actually is capable of.


QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Mar 2 2018, 01:15 PM)
dang the poison here is still strong.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Mar 2 2018, 03:21 PM)
Speed boster explaination:
If we now consider the f-number of the converted lens, the aperture diameter is unchanged as before, but the focal length is shorter, so overall the f-number has got smaller – that is, the lens has become ‘faster’. In reality, the lens is still transmitting the same amount of light, but it has just been packed into a smaller area by the extra power of the (speed booster) lens – which is why the ‘speed booster’ only works well if the sensor of the camera it is used with is smaller than that of the camera for which the lens was designed.

another advantage of using m43 smaller sensor.  thumbup.gif
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Nice to know thanks thumbup.gif

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