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post Oct 9 2016, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Oct 9 2016, 11:12 AM)
What are the charges incurred to maintain FSM account?
fyi, recently registered with FSM, and subscribed to the PRS.

Was charged RM10.60 (not sure whether this is one-off, or per annum).

What about the other charges? For argument's sake, i am not planning to increase/transfer/switch/decrease anything.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 9 2016, 11:18 AM)
That is the PPA account opening fee (RM10 + GST) charged by PPA (one time charge)

For future calendar year, you will be charge fund annual fee (RM8 +GST) for each fund that you invest during the calendar year (meaning if you make contribution for fund A and didnt make contribution for fund B in 2017, fund A will be charge annual fee but fund B won't)

For each new PRS fund you invest, their first calendar year will be exempted from annual fee
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Ah, what is this forum without such great help from fellow forumers. Thanks @AIYH!

Noted on the PPA account opening. But is it based on each PPA provider, or not?
I mean, I open an account with Kenanga PPA. Should I open another account with CIMB, do I get charged too?

As for the calendar year, you meant 1/1 - 31/12, or the annual date of subscription (e.g. 1/9 - 31/8) ?


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post Oct 9 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Oct 9 2016, 12:53 PM)
Ah, what is this forum without such great help from fellow forumers. Thanks @AIYH!

Noted on the PPA account opening. But is it based on each PPA provider, or not?
I mean, I open an account with Kenanga PPA. Should I open another account with CIMB, do I get charged too?

As for the calendar year, you meant 1/1 - 31/12, or the annual date of subscription (e.g. 1/9 - 31/8) ?
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Quote : "The Private Pension Administrator (PPA) is the central administrator for the Private Retirement Schemes (PRS)."

PPA is like the governing body for all the PRS providers. The PPA account is an account that contains the PRS funds you invest in, kinda like master account that consolidate your PRS funds in one place.

So the PPA account will be opened when you invest on your first PRS fund. Afterwards, you don't need aother PPA opening form moving forward.

However, you do need to submit a new PRS form for each provider you are new to.

Say for first time you submit PPA form and Kenanga PRS form.

Next time say you wanna invest in CIMB PRS, you dont need another PPA form as you had the PPA account, but you need to submit the CIMB PRS form as this your first time invest in CIMB PRS.

I asked about this before to PPA and they say calendar year, which I assumed is 1/1 to 31/12, if is from the time you start invest, that would be anniversary year, not too sure about it, anyone can kindly verify it? smile.gif

p/s: In case someone bombard me on this, you may ask on the PRS forum here: Private Retirement Fund @ Lowyat Forum
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post Oct 9 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 9 2016, 10:41 AM)
Since they are different asset classes, would you recommend that for people like me who RSP every month, to keep CIMB APDIF to take advantage of the larger volatility compared to RHB AIF?

If I am considering to shift from RHB AIF to RHB EMBF instead of RHB ATR, I can't really understand the region break as there is a lot of others region that neither FSM nor morningstar is helpful in breaking down on that  sad.gif

Anyone can kindly enlighten me more on the region breakdown in RHB EMBF (I know is emergin market, but with 67% others, is kinda really hard to understand more  laugh.gif )

p/s: noticed that the target fund of RHB EMBF, united emerging market bond fund, the SGD and USD class performance were similarly to a bond fund. While the RHB counterpart performace similar to equity.

Is this due to different currencies' appreciation/depreciation at different time that results in such a different in return and volatility?  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif
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I don't see much difference among all these funds despite them claiming to be in different market.

I only see some differences for 1 year result. The further away the more similar they are.
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post Oct 9 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 9 2016, 01:19 PM)
I don't see much difference among all these funds despite them claiming to be in different market.

I only see some differences for 1 year result. The further away the more similar they are.
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Both had also been "filtered" by FSM as both are also in the recommended fund list....
the noticed able different is the composition in each funds.
one is ASIAN focused and the other more diversified....

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post Oct 9 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 9 2016, 12:35 PM)

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 9 2016, 01:19 PM)
I don't see much difference among all these funds despite them claiming to be in different market.

I only see some differences for 1 year result. The further away the more similar they are.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 9 2016, 01:40 PM)
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Both had also been "filtered" by FSM as both are also in the recommended fund list....
the noticed able different is the composition in each funds.
one is ASIAN focused and the other more diversified....
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My portfolio currently overweight on greater asian region, so I will go for RHB EMBF to explore into south american and african region's emerging market smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 9 2016, 01:57 PM)
My portfolio currently overweight on greater asian region, so I will go for RHB EMBF to explore into south american and african region's emerging market  smile.gif
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Same here.... cheers.gif
heart shake shake... hmm.gif

Now NAV high kah? devil.gif
Better Tunggu NAV down abit, more Untung? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 9 2016, 02:21 PM)
Same here....  cheers.gif
heart shake shake... hmm.gif

Now NAV high kah?  devil.gif
Better Tunggu NAV down abit, more Untung?  tongue.gif
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Cannot la laugh.gif

RSP date is coming soon, not enough ammo to even meet minimum initial investment laugh.gif

Gotta sell of AIF next week then repump into EMBF via RSP biggrin.gif

Rather than wait for the timing, might as well just invest it when decision made with RSP for this month coming soon biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 8 2016, 08:15 PM)
U guys don't seem to get xuzen's sarcasm.

He's indirectly telling, guys who are comfortable with FDs and eGIA don't belong here. Come here talk bulls and cocks then at the end chicken out...come for what?

Investments are not for u.
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Different people have different levels of risks tolerance. Some people are willing to take more risk for potentially higher returns. That does not mean they have to take the highest level of risk to get the highest level of returns. Some people invest 100% into EQ funds, some 90% EQ : 10% FI, some 50% each, some 100% FI. To each his own. To imply that only people who are willing to take a lot of risk should consider investment is wrong. Otherwise, why bother with volatility, Sharpe ratio and correlation.
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post Oct 9 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Oct 9 2016, 03:08 PM)
Different people have different levels of risks tolerance. Some people are willing to take more risk for potentially higher returns. That does not mean they have to take the highest level of risk to get the highest level of returns. Some people invest 100% into EQ funds, some 90% EQ : 10% FI, some 50% each, some 100% FI. To each his own. To imply that only people who are willing to take a lot of risk should consider investment is wrong. Otherwise, why bother with volatility, Sharpe ratio and correlation.
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rclxms.gif yes, that is very true in the context of the investment sphere.
but, if you refer to his post, he mentioned about Xuzen's post.....
xuzen's post is here at page# 60, post# 1185,
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4047177/+1180

he is responding to those that is comparing apple, oranges and pineapple pens just to try to select the winner for the minute gains of liquidity and lag time...
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post Oct 9 2016, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Oct 9 2016, 12:18 PM)
I see every post so long I also don't feel like reading already. Lol
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Welcome back!

How's it going with your UT and stocks?
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post Oct 9 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Oct 9 2016, 12:18 PM)
I see every post so long I also don't feel like reading already. Lol
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Me too... Few days didnt come here so many pages already...
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2016, 03:59 PM)
Me too... Few days didnt come here so many pages already...
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may missed some thing "NEW".. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 9 2016, 02:21 PM)
Same here....  cheers.gif
heart shake shake... hmm.gif

Now NAV high kah?  devil.gif
Better Tunggu NAV down abit, more Untung?  tongue.gif
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I think u better tunggu nav drop... Maybe put a target nav buying price to get in. If nav hit ur expected price, then go buy..
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2016, 04:02 PM)
I think u better tunggu nav drop... Maybe put a target nav buying price to get in. If nav hit ur expected price, then go buy..
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mad.gif you no read post# 1216 kah?
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 9 2016, 04:00 PM)
may missed some thing "NEW".. biggrin.gif
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I think i missed many steamed up discussions... But too many pages to read up... sad.gif


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post Oct 9 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 9 2016, 04:06 PM)
mad.gif you no read post# 1216 kah?
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Using smartphone la now, hard to navigate.. I think i didnt read thst post
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2016, 04:07 PM)
Using smartphone la now, hard to navigate.. I think i didnt read thst post
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goto page# 61,...
2nd post by Cherroy...
timed 7.43AM
now you can navigate liao biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 9 2016, 03:24 PM)
Welcome back!

How's it going with your UT and stocks?
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UT doing alright. But on the downside, want to top up and increase my portfolio size also cannot.

So now monitor stocks more closely. See got buy opportunity or not.

QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2016, 03:59 PM)
Me too... Few days didnt come here so many pages already...
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Yeah. And I don't remember seeing all these new names hmm.gif
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post Oct 9 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Oct 9 2016, 04:14 PM)
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Yeah. And I don't remember seeing all these new names  hmm.gif
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many had been silent readers...now very vocal...
good....I liked that.....
more new perspective and insights....
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2016, 03:59 PM)
Me too... Few days didnt come here so many pages already...
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Oct 9 2016, 04:14 PM)
Yeah. And I don't remember seeing all these new names  hmm.gif
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good there's new people here.
more info & opinions thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
if not so boring see the same person name only innocent.gif

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