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melz84
post Apr 30 2007, 02:06 PM

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i agree with you too...
futhermore this thread kinda active...
and most of the stuffs we talk here are regarding paypal and how to verify accounts using debit card...
i wonder if the mod will consider about this..
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post Apr 30 2007, 02:13 PM

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y dont u ask 1 of them since ur the sifu here notworthy.gif
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post May 1 2007, 12:07 AM

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I believe a summarized version would be helpful, maybe after I get back from my trip I'll do one smile.gif
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post May 1 2007, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Apr 30 2007, 02:13 PM)
y dont u ask 1 of them since ur the sifu here  notworthy.gif
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who ? me?
i'm still considered a n00bie to them.. dun think they'll even consider if i ask.. LOL...
maybe someone here with higher post count... reputable... could lend a hand in this..

let's just wait for Diligent Sloth to do a summarize post before asking a mod to pin the thread.. =)
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post May 1 2007, 01:47 AM

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Should make everything in a easier understanding steps by steps for verifying paypal.

Cautions steps of using paypal. Transfering funds, accepting funds from varies sources...

When face limited access, what proper steps to do with the fastest responce from paypal account department. The money need to spend when facing the problem to resolved limited access.

Ebay users,merchants. and whoever that use paypal share their experience..
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post May 1 2007, 02:03 AM

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spaceop... good suggestion..
anyway.. i'll try to talk to the mod later about pinning this thread.. dunno can or not.. haha


Added on May 1, 2007, 3:07 amasked my friend about getting this thread Pinned but he says it's beyond his power to do so... sorry guyz.. did ma best.. haha.. i guess we have to count on diligent.. see if he can do something bout it =p

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post May 1 2007, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(spaceop @ May 1 2007, 01:47 AM)
Should make everything in a easier understanding steps by steps for verifying paypal.

Cautions steps of using paypal. Transfering funds, accepting funds from varies sources...

When face limited access, what proper steps to do with the fastest responce from paypal account department. The money need to spend when facing the problem to resolved limited access.

Ebay users,merchants. and whoever that use paypal share their experience..
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I'll be back the day after but I don't think I can ensure the thread will be pinned either, but at the very least it would be a good resource for others to see.

@SpaceOP
There's really not much you can do regarding Limited access except wait for paypal to finish its 'investigations'. You may be interested to know that paypal recent lost a few lawsuits to people with Limited Access accounts and had to pay a substantial amount.


By the way, before everyone jumps on the paypal wagon, please keep these facts in mind.

1. According to PayPal accepting their ToS (Terms of Service) in effect means you waive your rights to credit card consumer protection laws if you want to use their service, and that you may not issue a chargeback for unauthorized use of your credit card and PayPal account, or if you do, then they have the right to limit your account.

2. Their terms of service are not completely disclosed upon signup and some key "conditions" are not disclosed. They fail to mention their total lack of security to prevent your account from being compromised by phishing & spoof sites. That if your account is accessed by a criminal using one of these methods, PayPal will hold YOU monetarily & legally responsible! Also, no place do they openly tell potential members that their money is 100% at risk. That PayPal can, will, and has in the past, completely cleaned out customers' accounts, (including your checking or savings account) with no appeals process available. Instead they bury in the fine print of 37 pages of their "Terms of Service" (ToS) where they disclose to you that PayPal can close your account for any reason what-so-ever, or no reason, and then you have to wait 180 days to get your money.

4. If PayPal feels your actions are questionable, PayPal is the investigator, judge, jury and executioner. "Telling your side" of what happened, in most cases seems to be irrelevant. They also refuse to provide you with the details of their investigation and withhold documents they relied upon to make their decisions. Your only contact will be an email that says:

Thank you for contacting PayPal. We apologize for the delay in responding to your service request.

After review, the decision has been made to keep your account locked. This decision cannot be appealed.

If you have any further questions, please reply to this email.

That will be the end of it as far as PayPal is concerned. You can email back, but you'll just get more of the same. Oh yea, and you'll have to wait 180 days to get your money.

5. If you are a bona fide, up-standing individual with hundreds of successful transactions, but someone pays you with a stolen credit card, your account (by PayPal's own admission) is immediately flagged as being "criminal behavior" and any money in that account is confiscated. If a customer "disputes" the charge, same thing happens. (See email above.) PayPal claims that they will fight chargebacks, but read this before you fall for that one.


Added on May 1, 2007, 12:34 pmReally offtopic here but Melz has been around LYN a year longer than me tongue.gif

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post May 1 2007, 03:32 PM

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Off topic : lol... been here a year longer than u.. but wasn't really active til 3 months back... =p btw.. u were doing bulk for CFOS rite?

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post May 1 2007, 06:48 PM

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Nope, wasn't me... I don't use cfos mainly because

1. I'm multihomed
2. I've got more than 3 PC's sharing the connections
3. Cfos does not play nice in networked environments
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post May 1 2007, 06:55 PM

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Hi!

I got USD15 paypal left ,and in my mastercard got RM30 balance,i want to buy USD18 things from Internet.Can ah? biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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Why not? You should be able to complete the purchases succesfully
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QUOTE(Diligent Sloth @ May 1 2007, 07:00 PM)
Why not?  You should be able to complete the purchases succesfully
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But i got USD15 only left in my paypal account.. sweat.gif

sry i dun understand coz still new in paypal biggrin.gif
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post May 1 2007, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Diligent Sloth @ May 1 2007, 06:48 PM)
Nope, wasn't me... I don't use cfos mainly because

1. I'm multihomed
2. I've got more than 3 PC's sharing the connections
3. Cfos does not play nice in networked environments
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lol... i mistaken liao.. it's J-Slade ahahaha...
multi homed sumore.. lol

QUOTE(QD_buyer @ May 1 2007, 06:55 PM)
Hi!

I got USD15 paypal left ,and in my mastercard got RM30 balance,i want to buy USD18 things from Internet.Can ah? biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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i think u better top up another 15-20 bucks to ur card leh.... Rm25 in ur card is deposit only cannot be used one... u have imagine that ur only got Rm5 LOL...
but i not sure what's the min top up for NexG tho..
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em....wanna enquiry something...about PB Visa Eletron...

The card just use for paid on buying something, right?

in contrast, can it using for received money from transfer?
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post May 1 2007, 11:02 PM

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To : Diligent Sloth,

Paypal protect buyers but not sellers. That is what I had faced and concluded. Although there are some lawsuit winning but then people try their business in internet because there is ease to use and hassle free. I'm using my paypal to do some business but ended up limited access due to the fraud payment by buyer. Just like a crime sentenced to death. You see you money in your account but then they are useless.


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post May 1 2007, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(steven824 @ May 1 2007, 10:52 PM)
em....wanna enquiry something...about PB Visa Eletron...

The card just use for paid on buying something, right?

in contrast, can it using for received money from transfer?
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if a transfer originated from Msia banks... maybe still can...
i usually use internet banking to transfer/pay $$ t6o my debit card...

u can even do that from the atm...

anybody who has your card number.. they can pay $$ to that card...
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QUOTE(melz84 @ May 2 2007, 12:13 AM)
if a transfer originated from Msia banks... maybe still can...
i usually use internet banking to transfer/pay $$ t6o my debit card...

u can even do that from the atm...

anybody who has your card number.. they can pay $$ to that card...
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Ok, i c, thx..

another asking about...

i have register the services from the pb website
Do i need enclose the "cheque(deposit)" at once with the application form& IC?
without the cheque, the application is validate or not? rclxub.gif
Thank! doh.gif
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post May 2 2007, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(steven824 @ May 2 2007, 12:27 AM)
Ok, i c, thx..

another asking about...

i have register the services from the pb website
Do i need enclose the "cheque(deposit)" at once with the application form& IC?
without the cheque, the application is validate or not? rclxub.gif
Thank!  doh.gif
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err.. i don't really get your question.. what is it that u're trying to ask??
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QUOTE(melz84 @ May 2 2007, 01:56 AM)
err.. i don't really get your question.. what is it that u're trying to ask??
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ya, just visit www.pbebank.com.my and apply(debit card) from internet

after filling the form, it's need print out by hardcopy and in order mailing back to public bank

the web tell me enclose a Photo IC with the form into envelope at once.....


Okay!
simplely say, once you receive the card, the card include deposit(rm25) or rm0?


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post May 2 2007, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(spaceop @ May 1 2007, 11:02 PM)
To : Diligent Sloth,

Paypal protect buyers but not sellers. That is what I had faced and concluded. Although there are some lawsuit winning but then people try their business in internet because there is ease to use and hassle free. I'm using my paypal to do some business but ended up limited access due to the fraud payment by buyer. Just like a crime sentenced to death. You see you money in your account but then they are useless.
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It protects itself, freezing accounts for 180 days before you can get a refunds allows them a serious amount of float capital to play with. I used to get rid of my paypal rather quickly when I used to earn a lot... I've got 2 accounts that I use smile.gif They will only freeze the account that has been complained against.




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