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Michael J.
post Jul 27 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jul 27 2014, 01:23 PM)
Key lime = Limau nipis = Kat (Chinese) that use to make juice?

Limau Kapa = key lime?

The more I check, the more confuse i get  rclxub.gif
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Ahahaha.... yea, the local names for them are very confusing. I myself can't differentiate sometimes! Only after looking at the fruits personally, then only I will know.

Limau nipis is normally used to describe Key Lime, but it is not the Kat used to make juice. That one is limau kasturi, aka Calamondin/Calamansi. Some people do refer to calamansi as limau nipis.

In addition, there are distinctions between the closely related, but vastly different, Persian Lime. It too is called limau nipis, but differs from Key Lime in being seedless, 3-4 times larger, and recognizably more bitter and sour in taste.

I have not heard of the term limau kapa before... so can't help you there, unfortunately.

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post Jul 27 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jul 27 2014, 10:02 AM)
Doing some research on Jin Huang

Jin Huang = Jing Huang = Golden Queen = Kam Hong = Kam Loong ( literally translate to Golden Dragon)?

I check with my supplier he only have Kam Loong from Taiwan, He describe the fruit as big, up to 1.2 kg, sweet & firberless.

Say, anyway for us to identify the tree,  of varieties of mangoes?
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Mmmm.... could be the same. Often the names changes in order make the crop more marketable. Like red tilapia was once marketed as Cherry Snapper at a time when there was a lot of stigma against eating the fish. Now that tilapia is so well received, most just call it as it should be... tilapia. Incidentally, I've found a fresh produce seller in Sekincan (Selangor) selling Kam Loong mangoes. They look exactly like Nam Duc Mai.

As far as I know, Jin Huang marketed by Taiwan Agri Board is a fixed, trademarked name. But if it is anything like the ones being sold at Tesco, then it is NOT the Taiwanese Jin Huang, but actually Nam Duc Mai from Thailand, or elsewhere like Hainan Island. Refer to this visual link: http://anazra.blogspot.com/2009/06/golden-dragon-mango.html

The Taiwanese Jin Huang mango is as shown in this link:
http://www.chinasuppliers.jqw.com/sp/2011/...show-85302.html

Also read this link:
http://kcginfo.kcg.gov.tw/Publish_Content....apt=6856&sort=1

The most noticeable difference is the pink blush on the shoulder of the fruit, as well as the lack of white dots all over. Jin Huang typically have a very clean, golden-yellow peel which contrasts with Nam Duc Mai's greenish yellow peel with pearl spots.


I want to point out that if you are wondering why Jin Huang and Nam Duc Mai look so similar, it is because Jin Huang is rumored to be an improved version of Nam Duc Mai. The story goes that the Jin Huang mango was originally selected from a chance seedling of a Nam Doc Mai fruit by the owner, which he tested extensively, and then later grafted onto multiple trees for mass production. He later entered the fruit into a local mango competition, and it beat every other mango produced by Taiwanese growers. In fact, it was so damn good the Japanese were the first to import huge quantities of it into their country, which then spurred other Taiwanese growers to start grafting the Jin Huang onto their own trees.

Even today, there is an annual competition for the best Jin Huang strain in Taiwan. The winning strain then goes on to become the next generation of budwood. It is possible that the runner-ups, denied of such honor, decide to sell grafts of their materials anyway, just not naming them as Jin Huang but something similar. Maybe some decided to call them Kam Loong?

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post Jul 27 2014, 11:02 PM

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As for identifying mangoes based on tree appearance, it isn't always so easy.... There are sufficient differences between non-hybrids, but most new commercial varieties are either recent hybrids, or improved strains that are too closely related that morphological comparison is not sufficient to determine pedigree anymore.

However, as an interest, the same standards used to differentiate durian trees in Malaysia are also applicable to mangoes. The canopy formation, branch formation, leaf patten and length, petiole length, new leaf flushing coloration, and flower structure, pattern and coloration are all helpful indicators. Fruiting habit (i.e. when it fruits) is not particularly helpful, since flowering and fruit set are largely shaped by external influences like water stress, relative humidity etc.
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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jul 27 2014, 10:04 PM)


I have not heard of the term limau kapa before... so can't help you there, unfortunately.
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Sorry wrong typo it's Limau Kapas. blush.gif
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post Jul 28 2014, 12:01 PM

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Wah, I stumbled into this topic. You guys are doing great job! Keep it up
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post Jul 28 2014, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jul 28 2014, 08:44 AM)
Sorry wrong typo it's Limau Kapas.  blush.gif
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Oh, if Limau Kapas then yes. I did come across that term at a border market between Sarawak and Indonesia. They do call Key Lime/Persian Lime as limau kapas. However, it appears rather indiscriminate lar...
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QUOTE(juniortok @ Jul 28 2014, 12:01 PM)
Wah, I stumbled into this topic.  You guys are doing great job! Keep it up
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Thanks and welcome!
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post Jul 28 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jul 28 2014, 12:08 PM)
Thanks and welcome!
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Do you guys allow people to visit your farms?
Michael J.
post Jul 28 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Jul 28 2014, 12:13 PM)
Do you guys allow people to visit your farms?
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I will leave that question up for the rest to answer. Me, I'm an academician/scientist so unfortunately no farm. At least not yet. Haa...
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post Jul 29 2014, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jul 28 2014, 10:34 PM)
I will leave that question up for the rest to answer. Me, I'm an academician/scientist so unfortunately no farm. At least not yet. Haa...
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Michael, maybe you can set up a green house or 2 to aide your trial. A laboratory Farm, rclxms.gif

Well, all are welcome to our place, but it's out of the way and deep in the jungle. You can even come & play farming. I have friends coming from the city, stay for 3 days to De-stress, biggrin.gif

Say any of you people in FaceBook? I have just set up 1 account.
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post Aug 5 2014, 08:31 AM

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let us know the fb acc name
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post Aug 5 2014, 10:18 PM

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Hi everyone, how is everybody doing?
I'm still very much look up to agriculture/aquaculture business.
Some of you may remember me, I'm still in Feed business and Tilapia farming.

Anything interesting lately?
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post Aug 6 2014, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(M_century @ Aug 5 2014, 10:18 PM)
Hi everyone, how is everybody doing?
I'm still very much look up to agriculture/aquaculture business.
Some of you may remember me, I'm still in Feed business and Tilapia farming.

Anything interesting lately?
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hi Mcentury,
wanna ask i've been told there is difference on the tilapia grade, some fish will not grow after it reached palm size. is that true? Any place to get good quality fish fry?

MrFarmer
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Hi Guys, I had just started a FaceBook page for my farming activities.

FigWholesale FigWholesale

Kindly like my page, thank you.
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https://www.facebook.com/FigWholesale/timeline


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post Aug 13 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Aug 13 2014, 08:40 PM)
Hi Guys, I had just started a FaceBook page for my farming activities.

FigWholesale FigWholesale

Kindly like my page, thank you.
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https://www.facebook.com/FigWholesale/timeline
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Wow, nice. I just liked your page. rclxms.gif
MrFarmer
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 13 2014, 09:58 PM)
Wow, nice. I just liked your page.  rclxms.gif
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Thank you.
TSParaOpticaL
post Aug 16 2014, 05:23 PM

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saw your page bro biggrin.gif. nice work in setting it up biggrin.gif

how's your farm coming along ?? when you are back in Cheras call me...we go yum cha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Aug 16 2014, 05:23 PM)
saw your page bro biggrin.gif. nice work in setting it up biggrin.gif

how's your farm coming along ?? when you are back in Cheras call me...we go yum cha biggrin.gif
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Thank you, thank you.
This trip rather long, 2 months, as need to arrange starting to tapping of our rubber trees. Back sometime in October.
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post Aug 17 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Aug 13 2014, 12:40 PM)
Hi Guys, I had just started a FaceBook page for my farming activities.

FigWholesale FigWholesale

Kindly like my page, thank you.
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https://www.facebook.com/FigWholesale/timeline
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Nice bro! Just liked your page.

Mo tanya bah ging, you got physical store in keningau ka to sell your stuff?, cuz if got i want to ask if can partner up with you to sell my salted eggs and selling farming equipment and tools bah.

If free come bah visit my duck farm saaaaana Ranau ja bei, haha.
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By the way guys, wanna ask, how hard it is if i want to make my own feed for my ducks? Quite similar nutritional facts with chicken layer feed. I need about 300kg per day =.="

Want to save cost bah.

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