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MrFarmer
post Nov 13 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 13 2013, 09:53 AM)
Wow! I've been missing out on a lot of action going on in the thread lei.... haa...

Seriously, Para + Mr Farmer, you guys are awesome in keeping the thread alive!

Before I go on, my apologies to hijacking your current discussion... heh... from the looks of it, it is certainly a lively one.

A little update on my side: I've been testing and propagating a number of heirloom and locally adapted short-term crops lately. Thus far, the number of crops I've been propagating and testing is small, due to space constraint (and my divided time between my "real" research work at the university).

Anyway, the current list of crops being tested and enriched (do note that I only keep heirlooms (H) and non-hybrid, non-GMO open pollinated (OP) variants ):

1. Dimpled Brown Cowpeas (H): Personally selected and bred lines that were drought and wet-feet tolerant. Moderate yielding.

2. Purple-seeded French Beans (H): Does not perform well under drought conditions, in the midst of improvement. Moderate yielding.

3. Dwarf Yellow Popping Corn (OP): Very short stocky plant (about 90cm base-to-tassel). Produces two cobs per plant. Drought tolerant

4. Tadong Groundnuts (H): Unique wet-climate groundnut with bright yellow flowers. Tolerates drought, appears impervious to wet-feet disease (Phytophthora and Fusarium). In the midst of propagation.

5. Crimson Giant Radish (H): Wet weather and drought tolerant variety of giant red radish. Variable performance, will continue selection for local adaptation.

6. Sarawak Butternut Squash (OP): I don't know where this variety originates from, but here in Kuching and Samarahan area, we find them everywhere. Even by the roadside. Amazing squash variant, produce fruits that range between 2kg-5kg each. However, very sensitive to water stress (drought). In the midst of propagating.

7. Blue Jade Corn: Another dwarf variety of corn, multi-purpose (popping, whole, and milling). As the name says it, the corn kernels are purple-blue. Reaches 90+cm height, but produce 2-3 small cobs only. A little sensitive to wet weather and drought. In the midst of propagation.

8. Taragang Groundnut (H): Another peanut variant, from Sabah. Yet to be tested, but supposed to be much higher yielding (average 3 seeds per pod).

9. Red Egg Tomato (OP): A very thick-fleshed tomato, about the size and shape of a large chicken/duck egg. Here is Sarawak, you find them everywhere; gardeners and farmers alike just love them. Not normally sold by weight, but by number (4-5 pieces for RM2). Performance somewhat variable, depending on genes inherited. Some plants known to grow up to 6 feet tall, others 2-3 feet tall. Moderately productive.

10. Cili Goronong (OP): A type of Habanero chili that apparently has been grown in Sarawak for decades. And yes, it is used here in almost everything spicy (especially the sambals). Not as hot as one thinks, and smells real fruity.

11. Cili Antu (OP): Looks, smells, and burns just like the Naga chili famed for its super-hot touch. Could be a recent import. I almost had to be hospitalized for chemical burns while harvested the seeds from this chili. Even the vapor stings your nose. No joke.

12. Javanese Ginseng (OP): Does not look like the famed Sino ginseng roots, although there are some resemblance in the shoots. It is eaten like a vegetable in the interior parts of Borneo island, roots shoots and all. Very easy to seed, almost weed like. Hope it isn't "weed" substitute, as it seems to have some kind of calming effect on people (noticed that with a bunch of hyperactive kids).
Well, those are the crops I've collected thus far. Some are not local, but are being locally adapted. Others seems to have been adapted already, and some appear to be unique to this part of the world.

Aside from seed collecting, I've also been dabbling in a bit of permaculture-ish methods. Namely, I've been trying out companion planting, whereby crops are grown together in a limited space to complement each other. Classic example of this is the "Three-Sister" method of pumpkin-corn-bean. For me, I've been testing bean+tomato+garlic, corn+groundnut and chili+bean. So far, the most successful ones are the corn+groundnut.
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Hello Michael, we miss you. It's been a while since we heard from you. Thank you for your update, you must had been real busy. It must be very interesting propagating all of them. It'll be fantastic if you can hybrid them to be drought / wet feet tolerant and high yield. drool.gif

The Butter squash is popular here too. When I was planting pumpkins, there were request from the wholesaler.
MrFarmer
post Nov 14 2013, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(chris_xi @ Nov 12 2013, 09:23 PM)
My bad I was in a hurry to post that just now. I'm trying to experiment adjuvants with foliar fertilizer, my target is rubber sapling. From what I've gathered penetrating agent (penetrant) seems to work well with foliar fertilizer as it enhances the ability of fertilizer to penetrate the surface of foliage. I also have a wetting agent at my disposal but I'd only use it during wet seasons to minimize losses. Kinda like your idea of spraying at the underside of leaf. Will check out which side of rubber sapling leaf has the bigger pores lol.
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Went to see my supplier at the agrishop this afternoon, to grab some herbicide. Spoke with him on the "penertrant". He don't stock any of those. Sorry, couldn't help. After I explained to him on your requirement, his comment is that just use the foliar spray, it's sufficient. He also said " don't waste your money, buy me tea instead" blush.gif

I guess for maximum penetration, we need to time our spray when the pores (stoma) is opening / maximum.
Stoma open = high light intensity, high humidity.
Stoma close = darkness, low humidity, especially when the root sense a water shortage in the soil.
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post Nov 14 2013, 08:50 PM

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Ooophs, the Monkeys are out of business. Check this out. A very innovative guy.

The Remote Control Coconut Harvesting machine.
http://prakasan.com/
It looks fun.
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post Nov 15 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 13 2013, 09:40 PM)
I usually sees Bonding and Wetting agents in our local agrishops.
I'll check to see if there are any specialized Penetrant on my next visit.
The wetting agent that I am using is also from Halex,  Halexpol which active ingredient polyglycol ether. This reduces the surface tension, ease the osmosis and let it passes into the leafs.

Please do share if you find more infor on the Penertrant. I am interested, maybe it may be of use to me in the future. Thank you.

Speaking on rubber sapling, I had just a few which I spray with Nutra Phos. It's responding well. I shall try to get my hands on some 1 malaysia clone (3001) in the future to produce scion.

Say, can visit your nursery?
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I'm afraid I'm just a layman at the moment as I've to do a tad of research of all the terms you said to get an inkling of what they're hahaha. I use Kenpo 888 as the wetting agent. My boss told me it's more of a sticker but I feel it's more like wetting agent cum spreader after reading the labels. I shall check out the Halex on my next visit to the agrishop. Might be of a use. How many seedlings do you want? I'm more on the production rather than marketing now but if you're looking to buy I can inform the secretary about your order. My nursery is in Beaufort and yes you may come visit any time nod.gif

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 14 2013, 08:39 PM)
Went to see my supplier at the agrishop this afternoon, to grab some herbicide. Spoke with him on the "penertrant". He don't stock any of those. Sorry, couldn't help. After I explained to him on your requirement, his comment is that just use the foliar spray, it's sufficient. He also said " don't waste your money, buy me tea instead"  blush.gif

I guess for maximum penetration, we need to time our spray when the pores (stoma) is opening / maximum.
Stoma open = high light intensity, high humidity.
Stoma close = darkness, low humidity, especially when the root sense a water shortage in the soil.
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Haha that's very kind of you. In fact I sprayed one of the plot nearing one month old into planting with foliar fertilizer yesterday coupled with Kenpo 888 since it showered the night before. It's my first time using the foliar fertilizer so don't know what'll be in store for me, will just wait and see rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 16 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(chris_xi @ Nov 15 2013, 10:32 PM)
I'm afraid I'm just a layman at the moment as I've to do a tad of research of all the terms you said to get an inkling of what they're hahaha. I use Kenpo 888 as the wetting agent. My boss told me it's more of a sticker but I feel it's more like wetting agent cum spreader after reading the labels. I shall check out the Halex on my next visit to the agrishop. Might be of a use. How many seedlings do you want? I'm more on the production rather than marketing now but if you're looking to buy I can inform the secretary about your order. My nursery is in Beaufort and yes you may come visit any time  nod.gif
Haha that's very kind of you. In fact I sprayed one of the plot nearing one month old into planting with foliar fertilizer yesterday coupled with Kenpo 888 since it showered the night before. It's my first time using the foliar fertilizer so don't know what'll be in store for me, will just wait and see  rolleyes.gif
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Ahh, Beaufort, hmmh, kind of 'out of my way'. I usually turn off at Kimanis to Keningau. Went down to KK this morning, didn't see your post. 1 fine day, shall drop by.

No worries on the 3001 sapling, I just want a couple.

Say, I notice that you're from KL. Me heading back on the 20th rclxms.gif
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post Nov 17 2013, 06:50 PM

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Mini Watermelons.

Italy: A lot of interest in the mini-watermelon sector

There is a lot of interest in the mini-watermelon sector, as consumers now tend to prefer 2kg rather than 10-12kg watermelons. These are in fact more difficult to transport and cool, their shelf-life is rather short and often they do not have the taste expected.

Cora Seeds, an Italian seed company that breeds and sells the main varieties on the Italian market, introduced Nikas F1 mini-watermelons.



Plants are compact and very easy to manage, and fruits set very well. The flesh has an excellent colour, it is crunchy and tasty and only has micro-seeds.



As they mostly ripen at the same time, harvesting is done only a few times. They are also more resistant during transport because of thicker rinds.

The fact that there are only a few micro-seeds is not only better for consumers, but also for growers and retailers, because it means there is less air around seeds. Less air means less degradation and longer shelf-life.

Fruits are also appealing to consumers, not only for the flesh and aroma, but also thanks to a particularly shiny dark green rind.

Another advantage of Nikas F1 is that it is an early variety with a 60-day cycle in the Pachino area.



Nikas F1: data sheet
Type: Seeded mini-watermelon (micro-seeds)
Weight: 2kg very regular
Fruit: Round with dark green stripes and few small seeds
Flesh: Red, very sweet and crunchy (12.5 Brix level)
Note: Very productive medium-vigorous plant ideal for exports and retail

Nikas F1 is a brand new product with very few small seeds, which is a perfect alternative to triploid varieties as pollinisers are not necessary and therefore production costs are lower.

Expectations for the next campaign
As Maurizio Bacchi, General Manager of Cora Seeds, told FreshPlaza, "a few years after it was first introduced on the market, Nikas F1 mini-watermelons already gained their share of the market, as it did not take much to convince growers of such high quality. This is why we are very positive about the upcoming campaign and we think we will make a big leap forward. Growers, markets/supermarkets and consumers are already convinced, which is a difficult thing to do if they quality is not excellent."

Click here to discover Cora Seeds' watermelons.

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Publication date: 11/15/201
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post Nov 17 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 16 2013, 07:08 PM)
Ahh, Beaufort, hmmh, kind of 'out of my way'. I usually turn off at Kimanis to Keningau. Went down to KK this morning, didn't see your post. 1 fine day, shall drop by.

No worries on the 3001 sapling, I just want a couple.

Say, I notice that you're from KL. Me heading back on the 20th  rclxms.gif
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No problem mate, any fine day I'll be here hehe. Ya born and hail from KL ahaha and I'm going back on 21st! laugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(chris_xi @ Nov 17 2013, 08:53 PM)
No problem mate, any fine day I'll be here hehe. Ya born and hail from KL ahaha and I'm going back on 21st!  laugh.gif
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Can go Yam Char in KL, Cheras.

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post Nov 18 2013, 06:28 PM

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afternoon have lunch in Cheras can ar ?? i would love to join if possible biggrin.gif


QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 18 2013, 06:26 PM)
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Can go Yam Char in KL, Cheras.
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Nov 18 2013, 06:28 PM)
afternoon have lunch in Cheras can ar ?? i would love to join if possible biggrin.gif
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No problem Bro.
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:57 AM

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Hey guys,

My friend and I are interested in venturing into Ag business mainly fruits and vegetables. Couple of questions:

1) We just graduated, in our early 20s. How can we actually get started in Ag nowadays? We have a full-time job. I am in Oil Palm Plantation; he is in Ag chemicals. Should we go full time or part time into Ag? What is the starting capital? We plan to go all Ag soon if our farm is established.
2) We plan to do integration for fruit or vegetables. Intercropping while waiting for main crop. For newbs like us, which is a better choice, fruit or vegetables? Considering we do not have any land and we would most probably start small, approx. 3-4 ac of land.
3) Any of the seniors here are willing to show us your farm and give us some advice? We can drive to your farm for the visit. Or maybe spare us some land not in cultivation for our trial and error.

We're very serious in venturing into Ag. Hopefully I can get some good response from the seniors.

Thank you very much.

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QUOTE(xeroxphan @ Nov 28 2013, 10:57 AM)
Hey guys,

My friend and I are interested in venturing into Ag business mainly fruits and vegetables. Couple of questions:

1) We just graduated, in our early 20s. How can we actually get started in Ag nowadays? We have a full-time job. I am in Oil Palm Plantation; he is in Ag chemicals. Should we go full time or part time into Ag? What is the starting capital? We plan to go all Ag soon if our farm is established.
2) We plan to do integration for fruit or vegetables. Intercropping while waiting for main crop. For newbs like us, which is a better choice, fruit or vegetables? Considering we do not have any land and we would most probably start small, approx. 3-4 ac of land.
3) Any of the seniors here are willing to show us your farm and give us some advice? We can drive to your farm for the visit. Or maybe spare us some land not in cultivation for our trial and error.

We're very serious in venturing into Ag. Hopefully I can get some good response from the seniors.

Thank you very much.
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Welcome xerophan,
Not a senior, but a willing sharer.
1) Too subjective. You already have some knowledge, but there are plenty more ingredients. Do a proper planning, raising capital, cost study, responsibility allocation, cash projection.....etc. Most importantly exit plan (best / worst scenario). Sit down with your partner start if off and things shall fall into places.
2) I don't think there is "a better choice", (a shit to you may be a gold (fertilizer) to me). I guess most important is what crop you know best, what crop grows best (on your land, working in harmony reduces your cost tremendously), what crops is marketable........ Intercropping is nice, provided you know how. Land can be rented, lease or purchased. 3-4 ac you'll be looking at helpers?
3) You are most welcome to visit / participate if you are near my area. We can learn together.

I'm one of those that feels that Ag need a revamp with new blood (ideas/technology/strategy.....)
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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 28 2013, 01:05 PM)
Welcome xerophan,
Not a senior, but a willing sharer.
1) Too subjective. You already have some knowledge, but there are plenty more ingredients. Do a proper planning, raising capital, cost study, responsibility allocation, cash projection.....etc. Most importantly exit plan (best / worst scenario). Sit down with your partner start if off and things shall fall into places.
2) I don't think there is "a better choice", (a shit to you may be a gold (fertilizer) to me). I guess most important is what crop you know best, what crop grows best (on your land, working in harmony reduces your cost tremendously), what crops is marketable........ Intercropping is nice, provided you know how. Land can be rented, lease or purchased. 3-4 ac you'll be looking at helpers?
3) You are most welcome to visit / participate if you are near my area. We can learn together.

I'm one of those that feels that Ag need a revamp with new blood (ideas/technology/strategy.....)
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So far, we're trying to learn what we can. But I think it's best to visit farms or talk to experienced farmers and learn their management systems. We're willing to travel even if it's not in our vicinity.

Is it hard to get government funding for our Ag business? We will do a proper business plan or any preparations needed.


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Mr Farmer,

I saw in your previous posts that you are planting rubber tree as well.
I have a question; it is advisable to collect seed from existing trees, germinate and plant them in new field?

i have spare land and planning to plant rubber trees biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 28 2013, 01:05 PM)
3) You are most welcome to visit / participate if you are near my area. We can learn together.

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Hi Mr Farmer, can I know where is your farm? I'm pretty interested to visit to gain knowledge and exposure of this industry. smile.gif
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QUOTE(poks @ Nov 29 2013, 12:06 PM)
Mr Farmer,

I saw in your previous posts that you are planting rubber tree as well.
I have a question; it is advisable to collect seed from existing trees, germinate and plant them in new field?

i have spare land and planning to plant rubber trees  biggrin.gif
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Technically yes, but have it grafted. Am trying a simpler way (being a lazy farmer). I just go to "old" plantation after heavy rain, pluck out those young seedlings. icon_idea.gif no need to germinate. Plant them into poly bags. Learning to graft rubber trees, already have maybe 5. Using these for scion harvesting.

Grow from seeds, needs about 6 ~7 years to mature before you can tap.

Grafted can tap when the diameter is 450 mm (taken at 1 m from the ground), trees already fruiting (about 4 years).

Now rubber prices low wor rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 29 2013, 12:29 PM)
Hi Mr Farmer, can I know where is your farm? I'm pretty interested to visit to gain knowledge and exposure of this industry.  smile.gif
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Keningau, Sabah. Land beneath the wind.

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 29 2013, 12:43 PM)
Now rubber prices low wor  rclxub.gif
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that's why i'm planning to plant them biggrin.gif

in anyways, is it necessary to graft the seedling?
or i just germinate them then transplant them when the time comes?
sorry ahh... my knowledge in rubber is 0% laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 29 2013, 12:45 PM)
Keningau, Sabah. Land beneath the wind.
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Are you in Sabah all the time? Will you be coming to Peninsular?
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Hi xeroxphan,

welcome to the club biggrin.gif

1) how long have the both of you been in the field ?? if just starting i would sincerely suggest to work a few years with them to understand the inner works before planning to venture out

2) seldom ppl do integration of fruits and vegetables. mostly do intercropping between fruits OR vegetables. depending on cash flow then only you can decide on doing fruits or vegetables. i would suggest leasing farms for trial runs

3) most welcome to come out and yum cha and talk

where are the both of you from ???


QUOTE(xeroxphan @ Nov 28 2013, 10:57 AM)
Hey guys,

My friend and I are interested in venturing into Ag business mainly fruits and vegetables. Couple of questions:

1) We just graduated, in our early 20s. How can we actually get started in Ag nowadays? We have a full-time job. I am in Oil Palm Plantation; he is in Ag chemicals. Should we go full time or part time into Ag? What is the starting capital? We plan to go all Ag soon if our farm is established.
2) We plan to do integration for fruit or vegetables. Intercropping while waiting for main crop. For newbs like us, which is a better choice, fruit or vegetables? Considering we do not have any land and we would most probably start small, approx. 3-4 ac of land.
3) Any of the seniors here are willing to show us your farm and give us some advice? We can drive to your farm for the visit. Or maybe spare us some land not in cultivation for our trial and error.

We're very serious in venturing into Ag. Hopefully I can get some good response from the seniors.

Thank you very much.
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