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chris_xi
post Oct 5 2013, 09:40 PM

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hello everyone! stumbled upon this thread and loved it! great to see there's an ongoing forum about agriculture as it's rare to locate a place where stuff about agriculture can be discussed under one roof just like every other thing else. i used to be an active member in LYN but took a long hiatus until my first job (yes, in the agriculture line) sent me looking for any possible channel of information regarding rubber and oil palm. i see there's relatively little information about rubber and oil palm in this thread. my job at the moment is a supervisor for a rubber nursery. my experience is still somewhat at a young stage like sapling but i would love to share what i know and learn what i yet to know, all under learning purposes, and at the same time getting to know more friends, as the agriculture industry can be rather mundane after some time in it, especially when you're alone smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Oct 5 2013, 09:47 PM)
Hi Chris,
Welcome to this thread.
Just to check with you, which is the easiest grafting method for rubber. Am going to do some test grafting tomorrow. My first test was a total failure  cry.gif
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rubber grafting is not an easy job. in fact my first test was a total failure too. biggrin.gif
haven't done subsequent test after the first one so i could only speak from experience exchanging conversation with professional grafters (they can graft up to 1000 stocks in a day with 90% success rate shocking.gif). methods are more or less the same. it's the aspects that you need to take care of, like a larger socket on the stock to accommodate the scion, making sure the underside of scion is free from any object. the budding stick should be kept as fresh as possible during grafting as the success rate deteriorates if exposed under the sun for a long period. if you're re-grafting from the same stock, you should graft on the opposite and on top of the first grafting since the first grafting might cause wounds to its backside. hope it helps in your test tomorrow. good luck!
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post Nov 12 2013, 11:05 AM

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Hi fellow farmers, what are the adjuvants that go well with foliar fertilizer, say Bayfolan?
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 12 2013, 06:52 PM)
Hello Chris,
I think your question is a bit subjective. I shall assume that you are trying to apply foliar fertilizer by spraying onto the plant leaves. I am not familiar with Bayfolan as I've not used it. Most of the foliar fertilizer has "small molecule" as the "wetting agent" built in. Also depending on what type of plant and method of spraying.

I think you can look for just any wetting agent if you feel that it helps.

I test out Halex Nutra-Phos N, powder form. Was told that wetting agent blended in. I mix it with my DIY EM (fish). I spray with knack pack, pressurized it to max before releasing, aiming at the underside on the leafs (pores are larger on the underside). On my Jackfruit sapling I can see them "penetrating" into the leafs.

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Happy farming.
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My bad I was in a hurry to post that just now. I'm trying to experiment adjuvants with foliar fertilizer, my target is rubber sapling. From what I've gathered penetrating agent (penetrant) seems to work well with foliar fertilizer as it enhances the ability of fertilizer to penetrate the surface of foliage. I also have a wetting agent at my disposal but I'd only use it during wet seasons to minimize losses. Kinda like your idea of spraying at the underside of leaf. Will check out which side of rubber sapling leaf has the bigger pores lol.
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post Nov 15 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 13 2013, 09:40 PM)
I usually sees Bonding and Wetting agents in our local agrishops.
I'll check to see if there are any specialized Penetrant on my next visit.
The wetting agent that I am using is also from Halex,  Halexpol which active ingredient polyglycol ether. This reduces the surface tension, ease the osmosis and let it passes into the leafs.

Please do share if you find more infor on the Penertrant. I am interested, maybe it may be of use to me in the future. Thank you.

Speaking on rubber sapling, I had just a few which I spray with Nutra Phos. It's responding well. I shall try to get my hands on some 1 malaysia clone (3001) in the future to produce scion.

Say, can visit your nursery?
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I'm afraid I'm just a layman at the moment as I've to do a tad of research of all the terms you said to get an inkling of what they're hahaha. I use Kenpo 888 as the wetting agent. My boss told me it's more of a sticker but I feel it's more like wetting agent cum spreader after reading the labels. I shall check out the Halex on my next visit to the agrishop. Might be of a use. How many seedlings do you want? I'm more on the production rather than marketing now but if you're looking to buy I can inform the secretary about your order. My nursery is in Beaufort and yes you may come visit any time nod.gif

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 14 2013, 08:39 PM)
Went to see my supplier at the agrishop this afternoon, to grab some herbicide. Spoke with him on the "penertrant". He don't stock any of those. Sorry, couldn't help. After I explained to him on your requirement, his comment is that just use the foliar spray, it's sufficient. He also said " don't waste your money, buy me tea instead"  blush.gif

I guess for maximum penetration, we need to time our spray when the pores (stoma) is opening / maximum.
Stoma open = high light intensity, high humidity.
Stoma close = darkness, low humidity, especially when the root sense a water shortage in the soil.
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Haha that's very kind of you. In fact I sprayed one of the plot nearing one month old into planting with foliar fertilizer yesterday coupled with Kenpo 888 since it showered the night before. It's my first time using the foliar fertilizer so don't know what'll be in store for me, will just wait and see rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 17 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 16 2013, 07:08 PM)
Ahh, Beaufort, hmmh, kind of 'out of my way'. I usually turn off at Kimanis to Keningau. Went down to KK this morning, didn't see your post. 1 fine day, shall drop by.

No worries on the 3001 sapling, I just want a couple.

Say, I notice that you're from KL. Me heading back on the 20th  rclxms.gif
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No problem mate, any fine day I'll be here hehe. Ya born and hail from KL ahaha and I'm going back on 21st! laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(poks @ Nov 29 2013, 12:56 PM)
that's why i'm planning to plant them  biggrin.gif

in anyways, is it necessary to graft the seedling?
or i just germinate them then transplant them when the time comes?
sorry ahh... my knowledge in rubber is 0%  laugh.gif
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the purpose of grafting is to uniform your plant into a desirable characteristic of your choice and eventually yield a better result after years of planting. if you just sow from raw seed, you might end up getting myriad kind of mature rubber tree (oversized/slender trunk, susceptible to diseases, low latex yielding etc). actually there are more pros than cons in getting your plant grafted before planting them into the field. one simple example (grafted VS non-grafted) is you have the option to graft the seedling into the clone that is suitable based on your land geography (say hilly land, choose clone that is wind-resistant to prevent tree from breaking off), and if you just sow the raw seed, you have little control of what it will become. as an extra note, grafting is not an easy process, so if you want to save the hassle just purchase the seedlings from any nursery. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 30 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 29 2013, 10:29 PM)
Hehe, grafted some, it's taking.  rclxms.gif
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Say Chris, you still in KL? We are meeting up at Cheras, Taman Midah Old Town, Monday 12 ~ 13 hr. Want to come?
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how come the sapling grow like out of place? the one of the right, looks weird to me.. shocking.gif
i'm back in Sabah already cry.gif

 

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