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 Venturing into Agriculture & Aquaculture, Co-Ordination & Implementation is KEY

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chinyen
post Jan 5 2013, 10:35 PM

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hi, can shifu here help me identify these types of chillis? can make a profit from them? many told me they are rarely sold at market..

type 2 chilli is slightly longer than the other two, thinner with sharper tip and a bit crumpled looking.


and is the last one peppermint plant? any commersial value? thanks

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MrFarmer
post Jan 6 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jan 5 2013, 08:54 PM)
Hi guys...still remember my post earlier about my duck farm?

those ducklings are now bigger... they should be layng eggs end of the month


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Congratulation suknat, see you are making good progress. The ducks are big. Wishing you plenty golden eggs to harvest after CNY.
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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jan 6 2013, 12:34 AM)
Congratulation suknat, see you are making good progress. The ducks are big. Wishing you plenty golden eggs to harvest after CNY.
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hahaha, ironically i call my farm as " golden egg agro farm" tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 05:23 PM

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ah_suknat:

Congrats, and thanks for sharing.

chinyen:

Type 1 is a type of cabai burung (bird's eye chili). When immature, it is purple in color, right? It is supposed to be very hot, more so than the much larger cili api. This variant is quite rare on the open market. Type 2 looks like the normal garden chili, with elongated leaves. Type 3 is also a cabai burung variant, but it is very commonly found. In Juru (Penang) and Teluk Intan (Perak), both Type 1 and Type 3 are quite abundant.
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post Jan 15 2013, 06:28 PM

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Hi Agri venturers,

Good day to you. I'm an IT personnel now into tilapia farming in Kuala Selangor for about 4 months. My partner actually has been running the farm for the past 3 years, and i have jumped in the wagon to assist him. We currently growing in semen ponds.

We are revamping filter system and increasing ponds, hopefully to start with new fries by February latest.

I have most of the part covered, except a good source to buy tilapia fry / brood-stocks. I have been following the agri thread , and i believe there is a new hybrid variety is available , and able to reach maturity size in less than 4 months.

Our current batch has been growing slowly, apart from many other issues i believe in-breeding is one them. It will be a great assistance if anyone could provide
contact, whom dealing with hybrid variety / mono sex tilapia fry or brood stocks.





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post Jan 18 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jan 7 2013, 05:23 PM)
ah_suknat:

Congrats, and thanks for sharing.

chinyen:

Type 1 is a type of cabai burung (bird's eye chili). When immature, it is purple in color, right? It is supposed to be very hot, more so than the much larger cili api. This variant is quite rare on the open market. Type 2 looks like the normal garden chili, with elongated leaves. Type 3 is also a cabai burung variant, but it is very commonly found. In Juru (Penang) and Teluk Intan (Perak), both Type 1 and Type 3 are quite abundant.
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i see. i personally like type 1 chilli and meant to propagate it here in kl. Thank you very much for your reply. REally appreciate it.^^
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post Jan 19 2013, 02:39 PM

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Dear all,

Still trying to finish the whole thread, but thanks for the contribution and sharing, very very useful for newbie like me. Currently I'm studying and may venture to agriculture business in the near future.

One of the thing that I'm working on now is to check if it is feasible to use a solar power system. Anyone has tried this before?

Thanks
MrFarmer
post Jan 20 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(AD19BK @ Jan 19 2013, 02:39 PM)
Dear all,

Still trying to finish the whole thread, but thanks for the contribution and sharing, very very useful for newbie like me. Currently I'm studying and may venture to agriculture business in the near future.

One of the thing that I'm working on now is to check if it is feasible to use a solar power system. Anyone has tried this before?

Thanks
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We tried and is running a small 50W solar panel with a small petrol generator. My estimation, basing on our requirement, cost of material, product availability, the petrol or conventional system is still more economical (excluding environmental benefits).

You'll still need to do your own feasibility study as your may turn out to be feasible as it all boils down to your specific requirement. Also solar product cost over here is higher versus cheap hardware/ small engine which are cheaper here.

Do consider about security as well. Good luck.
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post Jan 20 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(shashik28 @ Jan 15 2013, 06:28 PM)
Hi Agri venturers,

Good day to you. I'm an IT personnel now into tilapia farming in Kuala Selangor for about 4 months. My partner actually has been running the farm for the past 3 years, and i have jumped in the wagon to assist him. We currently growing in semen ponds.

We are revamping filter system and increasing ponds, hopefully to start with new fries by February latest.

I have most of the part covered, except a good source to buy tilapia fry / brood-stocks. I have been following the agri thread , and i believe there is a new hybrid variety is available , and able to reach maturity size in less than 4 months.

Our current batch has been growing slowly, apart from many other issues i believe in-breeding is one them. It will be a great assistance if anyone could provide
contact, whom dealing with hybrid variety / mono sex tilapia fry or brood stocks.
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I'm into tilapia breeding and it's feed pellet wholesale.
If for new hybrid variety, if the color and shape vary too much. Middleman would give you plenty of reasons to lower the price. Almost all of them behave the same way.

The normal fry the cheapest I got was 7cents each. I believe can get cheaper with volume.
As for the mono sex. It's not really monosex in male, it's just chemically enhanced so that it don't really breed. But the % is about 95% so it will still breed if you don't feed them enough and after some time it will still breed but not as much as the normal ones.
This however come with a hefty price tag of 30cents each.
This speaks from our experience there we still go for the normal ones, just make sure to get the good fry.

We just feed it sufficiently so the fish focus on eating rather than breeding.
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jan 20 2013, 11:57 AM)
We tried and is running a small 50W solar panel with a small petrol generator. My estimation, basing on our requirement, cost of material, product availability, the petrol or conventional system is still more economical (excluding environmental benefits).

You'll still need to do your own feasibility study as your may turn out to be feasible as it all boils down to your specific requirement. Also solar product cost over here is higher versus cheap hardware/ small engine which are cheaper here.

Do consider about security as well. Good luck.
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thanks for the reply. Still working on the numbers smile.gif

btw, how about water supply? from what I gather, drilling a well and get the underground water is the most common way. Anyone can share any insight, ie your experience, things to consider, rules and regulation that govern (if any) such practice on this?

thanks
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post Jan 22 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(M_century @ Jan 20 2013, 09:23 PM)
I'm into tilapia breeding and it's feed pellet wholesale.
If for new hybrid variety, if the color and shape vary too much. Middleman would give you plenty of reasons to lower the price. Almost all of them behave the same way.

The normal fry the cheapest I got was 7cents each. I believe can get cheaper with volume.
As for the mono sex. It's not really monosex in male,  it's just chemically enhanced so that it don't really breed. But the % is about 95% so it will still breed if you don't feed them enough and after some time it will still breed but not as much as the normal ones.
This however come with a hefty price tag of 30cents each.
This speaks from our experience there we still go for the normal ones, just make sure to get the good fry.

We just feed it sufficiently so the fish focus on eating rather than breeding.
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Dear M Century,

I think we have been in touch before regards your fish feed. I'm waiting for my partner to be back fr travelling, then should arrange an appointment with you.Thanks for the heads up on hybrid marketing issue. Guess i have to try in small batch and try to sell it with my current buyers.

The problem with the common fries, i believe there is no proper control over in-breeding. Unless you know the breeder well, and tested their fries before.
The last batch my partner bought, (somewhere in rawang) exceeded 8 months. Hope you can give me the contact of current breeder your taking from.
And as for the 30cent hybrid, do you any idea whom is dealing it? I wanna check possibility of getting brood stock.



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QUOTE(AD19BK @ Jan 22 2013, 09:22 AM)
thanks for the reply. Still working on the numbers smile.gif

btw, how about water supply? from what I gather, drilling a well and get the underground water is the most common way. Anyone can share any insight, ie your experience, things to consider, rules and regulation that govern (if any) such practice on this?

thanks
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If your requirement is not heavy and you have a structure with roof, you may want to consider harvesting rain water. It may be the cheapest. We erect small sheds in our farm to harvest rain water. It's very low on maintenance.
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:44 PM

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I would like to adda qualifier here: Rain water harvesting works if your area has good average rainfall. What I mean is not total rainfall, i.e. total rainfall each year, but the monthly rainfall spread over the year. You can get this data from the local DOA or meterological department.

Having this data is also good for the farmer, because you can then plan and expect when you will need water to irrigate your crops the most. Thus, you can do rainwater collection, or temporary weir construction before any dry spell. The obverse is also true, i.e. you can anticipate high rainfall seasons, and prepare proper drainage in time.

As for alternative/renewable energy resources, there are many options. You can actually google for them, or look up youtube for guided lessons on building your own wind turbine/solar furnace/hydroelectic generator etc. I've even come across one that uses the temperature differences between two materials to generate electrical pulses.

The one I am particularly interested right now is the so called "perpetual energy generator". Although it is not entirely right to call it "perpetual energy", the fact is that this generator does not burn fuel, does not require direct energy, and is about 94% efficient in converting potential energy into electricity. A lot of physicist and pseudo-physicist are saying this generator is farce, but there are equally as many who've build similar generators that actually work. Unfortunately, none have been made to sizes large enough to power entire villages or cities; one was built in Germany though, and it powered a house.

Also, Nicola Tesla was known to build fantastical machines that scientist used to say could never work.
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Sorry, I should also explain why I said rainwater harvesting works with good average rainfall.

Put simply, the average small farm is limited by space. There's only so much space that you can allocate for structures (including shedhouse, water tanks, etc.). So to store large quantities of water will mean sacrificing space which could otherwise be used for growing crops/livestock etc. By knowing how much water is required each month for your farm, and averaging it out to how many months of dryspell to anticipate (adding a little more for unexpected events), you could build the right storage facility to accomodate the need.

Now in places with a good average monthly rainfall pattern, the amount of water required to be stored will be correspondingly lower, i.e. just need to top-up for the shortage. Therefore, your water storage facility will take up less space, which you can better use for other things.

For places with not-so-good rainfall patterns (and there are many in Malaysia), you might need to adjust your cropping patterns to accomodate this. Or you might need to choose an entirely different crop altogether. Eg., some places in central Malaysia have very high rainfalls in the early part of the year, and later parts of the year (about 300-500mm); the months in between have very low rainfall (150mm or less).

The website from the Met Department below is useful: http://www.met.gov.my/index.php?option=com...47&lang=english

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post Jan 23 2013, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jan 22 2013, 05:13 PM)
Sorry, I should also explain why I said rainwater harvesting works with good average rainfall.

Put simply, the average small farm is limited by space. There's only so much space that you can allocate for structures (including shedhouse, water tanks, etc.). So to store large quantities of water will mean sacrificing space which could otherwise be used for growing crops/livestock etc. By knowing how much water is required each month for your farm, and averaging it out to how many months of dryspell to anticipate (adding a little more for unexpected events), you could build the right storage facility to accomodate the need.

Now in places with a good average monthly rainfall pattern, the amount of water required to be stored will be correspondingly lower, i.e. just need to top-up for the shortage. Therefore, your water storage facility will take up less space, which you can better use for other things.

For places with not-so-good rainfall patterns (and there are many in Malaysia), you might need to adjust your cropping patterns to accomodate this. Or you might need to choose an entirely different crop altogether. Eg., some places in central Malaysia have very high rainfalls in the early part of the year, and later parts of the year (about 300-500mm); the months in between have very low rainfall (150mm or less).

The website from the Met Department below is useful: http://www.met.gov.my/index.php?option=com...47&lang=english
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Hi MJ,

thanks for the reply, however, don't think harvesting rain water will work for me, I'm planning to do fertigation, constant supply of water is very important, but thanks a lot for your suggestion smile.gif
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post Jan 23 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(AD19BK @ Jan 22 2013, 09:22 AM)
thanks for the reply. Still working on the numbers smile.gif

btw, how about water supply? from what I gather, drilling a well and get the underground water is the most common way. Anyone can share any insight, ie your experience, things to consider, rules and regulation that govern (if any) such practice on this?

thanks
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Anyone can help to shed some light on the well drilling part?

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AD19BK
post Jan 26 2013, 02:15 PM

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another question, how do you guys keep track of your crop's price, especially those vege and fruits that changes daily/weekly?

I did survey the price at pasar pagi at my place, however, was told that the price could be vary a lot throughout the year. so, I was wondering if there is anyway I can find out the historical price of fruits or vege from anywhere?

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post Jan 26 2013, 06:01 PM

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AD19BK:

Sure there is. FAMA has a weekly, monthly, yearly pricing, which is arranged by farmgate, wholesale, and average retail, and separated by state.

http://sdvi.fama.net.my/ireport/hargasegar...iturunnaik/form

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Sorry, I just realized the link earlier was a little difficult to navigate. The direct link has been changed as above, and easier to input for information.



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post Jan 27 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jan 26 2013, 06:20 PM)
Sorry, I just realized the link earlier was a little difficult to navigate. The direct link has been changed as above, and easier to input for information.
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thanks for the link, its very helpfule rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

did you check the price before? is it accurate? I check a few just now, compare some of the vege prices, it varies a lot from what I heard. For example, I was told that the kangkong price now at farm gate is < RM1, but the website says its about RM1.50. Any idea why the huge differences, or may be I heard it wrong?

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