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 Venturing into Agriculture & Aquaculture, Co-Ordination & Implementation is KEY

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Michael J.
post Jan 27 2013, 10:25 PM

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AD19BK:

I've checked the prices for some items, not all. And yes, there is quite a bit of variation. But it is useful nonetheless, as a general guide.

I cannot vouche for the way DOA or FAMA compiles its data, but what you need to realise is that at best, the figures provided are averages.

Eg. kangkung in Selangor is RM1.10 average lowest farmgate price, but the national average is RM1.35 per kg. In Sabah, the average lowest farmgate price is RM1.80 per kg. The local variation is only for selected locations, and you can find it under the tab "Pusat".

Do note that all the statistics shows is collectively, how much to expect for your crop. The best price you can get is up to your negotiation skills with the middleman.

That, of course, brings to topic the matter of the middleman. Now, I don't deny the valuable services provided by the middleman, and truthfully, in some places, they are a necessity. However, there are always some bad apples that ruin the reputation of the good ones by forcing down prices ruthlessly at the farmgate. This is especially the case when nearly all farming communities is a given region is planting the same crop, and there is an over-supply (perceived or otherwise).
Michael J.
post Jan 27 2013, 10:27 PM

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I should note: The "Pusat" tab doesn't give data for most crops. So again, how DOA/FAMA gets their data, is beyond me.
MrFarmer
post Jan 28 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jan 27 2013, 10:27 PM)
I should note: The "Pusat" tab doesn't give data for most crops. So again, how DOA/FAMA gets their data, is beyond me.
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smile.gif I was at the wholesale market on Saturday, sending my harvest. As I was too early, went to walk about checking out the other stalls and chatting them up. Met 2 gentlemen, pens and a form with all the names of fruits & vegetables. They go from stall to stall, asking how much, wrote down on their form and proceed to the next one.

Lots of question came up on my mind on the accuracy of the "price". Still, it's a good guide, if you don't know where to start.

Would also like to point out that pricing is not the only factor, as with any other business, there are lots of other factors to consider.
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post Jan 29 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(shashik28 @ Jan 22 2013, 11:11 AM)
Dear M Century,

I think we have been in touch before regards your fish feed. I'm waiting for my partner to be back fr travelling, then should arrange an appointment with you.Thanks for the heads up on hybrid marketing issue. Guess i have to try in small batch and try to sell it with my current buyers.

The problem with the common fries, i believe there is no proper control over in-breeding. Unless you know the breeder well, and tested their fries before.
The last batch my partner  bought, (somewhere in rawang) exceeded 8 months. Hope  you can give me the contact of current breeder your taking from.
And as for the 30cent hybrid, do you any idea whom is dealing it? I wanna check possibility of getting brood stock.
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You should take your time slowly and prepare before going into aquaculture
I don't buy fries just because the previous batch I have good experience or who and who said that the particular breeder good reputation. I inspect the fries myself. I believe in my own eyes and instinct.
As for your last batch 8 months. Reason why it took that long may not exactly problem is the fries. Can be other reason or reasons.
Quite many breeders sell the hybrid. I personally felt it's unnecessary as long as you feed well and manage well because Tilapia is still an economical fish, not those of high value fish. However many of my clients prefer hybrid.
You can contact me if you interested where to get those fries.
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Jan 28 2013, 08:16 PM)
smile.gif  I was at the wholesale market on Saturday, sending my harvest. As I was too early, went to walk about checking out the other stalls and chatting them up. Met 2 gentlemen, pens and a form with all the names of fruits & vegetables. They go from stall to stall, asking how much, wrote down on their form and proceed to the next one.

Lots of question came up on my mind on the accuracy of the "price". Still, it's a good guide, if you don't know where to start.

Would also like to point out that pricing is not the only factor, as with any other business, there are lots of other factors to consider.
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Totally agree that this serve as a good guide and good starting point, of course there are other variables to be taken into account as well. What my friends told me is that always have a few middleman, so that you can cross check and have a better estimate on what's market price.

By the way, may I know if anyone here planting kailan or other vegetables?

thanks
celicacultus
post Feb 4 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(shashik28 @ Jan 15 2013, 06:28 PM)
Hi Agri venturers,

Good day to you. I'm an IT personnel now into tilapia farming in Kuala Selangor for about 4 months. My partner actually has been running the farm for the past 3 years, and i have jumped in the wagon to assist him. We currently growing in semen ponds.

We are revamping filter system and increasing ponds, hopefully to start with new fries by February latest.

I have most of the part covered, except a good source to buy tilapia fry / brood-stocks. I have been following the agri thread , and i believe there is a new hybrid variety is available , and able to reach maturity size in less than 4 months.

Our current batch has been growing slowly, apart from many other issues i believe in-breeding is one them. It will be a great assistance if anyone could provide
contact, whom dealing with hybrid variety / mono sex tilapia fry or brood stocks.
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Hi, I've jumped onto the wagon almost the same time, earlier research has found these 2 suppliers for GIFT/monosex: SQB Agrotech in Kuantan (bank in $ 1 wk prior to collection) & Southern Blue Sea in Thailand (can do COD in Ipoh, have to wait/tumpang his bulk order if want to save cost/our order is small, supplied to Hulu Langat before as he's from Langat).

Please note I have not dealt with them, just thought I'd share the info, we were going to order from SQB but then came across a one-off good deal for normal tilapia fries. So we KIV GIFT/monosex for future.

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MrFarmer
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Going home for the CNY celebration. Happy Chinese New Year.
TSParaOpticaL
post Feb 6 2013, 09:43 PM

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Happy Chinese New Year to all Malaysians.... biggrin.gif

Am now putting the final touches to the chilli fertigation

and fertilising for the Jackfruit and Papaya trees and finishing work on Friday....

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Feb 6 2013, 05:38 AM)
Going home for the CNY celebration. Happy Chinese New Year.
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post Feb 7 2013, 07:50 PM

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What is the current price for 1kg of vermicompost? anyone know?
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post Feb 8 2013, 09:31 AM

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Good day agri-Bossings,

I am a filipino working as an IT professional. My family is in to agri business also more of Organic products such as (For crops) organic fertilizer, organic pest control, (For animals) organic deodorizer and organic animal health suppliment.

With my 2 months stay here I can see that Malaysia has an enourmous potential in agriculture so I was thinking that there might be possibilities for us to share our products organic benefits here in your country. I wanted to ask the masters here if that is possible?

for more information about our product just visit our site http://www.naturesbiorganic.com
Joe wong
post Feb 10 2013, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Apr 11 2007, 07:58 AM)
Last Update before i go to Hong Kong @ 12 Apr

The Pump
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My Tanks in a Row
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Sifu, I know it's was dated back in year 2007....however, I'm sure u still can remember about your RAS system.
I'm interested in this RAS system, can you pls teach me how to set up, where to buy those parts....and of course the cost for the system if you don't mind. Many thanks.
Gong hei Fatt choy!
MrFarmer
post Feb 13 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Feb 6 2013, 09:43 PM)
Happy Chinese New Year to all Malaysians.... biggrin.gif

Am now putting the final touches to the chilli fertigation

and fertilising for the Jackfruit and Papaya trees and finishing work on Friday....
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How's your papaya, bearing fruits? Exotica? Good fruits? Maybe can get some seeds from you.
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post Feb 13 2013, 11:13 PM

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wow..sure promising to venture if i dont have any job.....
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Hi guys, I wanna ask, if there's anyone here has bee farm and would willing to sell their extra hives of bees? I hope that this is the right place to ask around. Can anyone enlighten me where to get the commercial honey bees?
TSParaOpticaL
post Feb 14 2013, 03:14 PM

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Bro, got this from a private company which i dont have their contact anymore. nowadays you can approach MOA and they got info on RAS for you

QUOTE(Joe wong @ Feb 10 2013, 12:19 AM)
Sifu, I know it's was dated back in year 2007....however, I'm sure u still can remember about your RAS system.
I'm interested in this RAS system, can you pls teach me how to set up, where to buy those parts....and of course the cost for the system if you don't mind. Many thanks.
Gong hei Fatt choy!
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Just started but havent tasted the fruit yet. One Feet. Update you soon

QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Feb 13 2013, 11:10 PM)
How's your papaya, bearing fruits? Exotica? Good fruits? Maybe can get some seeds from you.
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There is a private bee farm in Pahang which sells them cheap. Let me find the contact. PM me your contact

QUOTE(max-oasism @ Feb 14 2013, 01:52 AM)
Hi guys, I wanna ask, if there's anyone here has bee farm and would willing to sell their extra hives of bees? I hope that this is the right place to ask around. Can anyone enlighten me where to get the commercial honey bees?
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MrFarmer
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QUOTE(max-oasism @ Feb 14 2013, 01:52 AM)
Hi guys, I wanna ask, if there's anyone here has bee farm and would willing to sell their extra hives of bees? I hope that this is the right place to ask around. Can anyone enlighten me where to get the commercial honey bees?
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I found this site while searching for a course in bee keeping as I am looking into this for future development. You may want to contact them.

http://carambolabeefarm.blogspot.com/

Possible to share your experience / plan to start a bee farm?
MrFarmer
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QUOTE(MyRedz @ Feb 13 2013, 11:13 PM)
wow..sure promising to venture if i dont have any job.....
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As with any other ventures, there are high & low. We're here to share our experience and hopefully smoothen your journey.
TSParaOpticaL
post Feb 17 2013, 08:37 AM

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Bro Mr Farmer,

how's your farm coming along ??

do update us... biggrin.gif
MrFarmer
post Feb 19 2013, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Feb 17 2013, 08:37 AM)
Bro Mr Farmer,

how's your farm coming along ??

do update us... biggrin.gif
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Progressing very slowly.
Just finished harvesting our pumpkins. Next harvest maybe April. Price at the moment is all time low.
The Berangan and other banana that were planted last year are starting to bear fruits, harvested twice.
Papaya, also planted last year is starting to be harvested in stages. Producing new batch of seedlings. Selling off as raw & ripe.

Anticipating a tough time as the dry & hot season now.

Had a productive day today. Planted 70 jackfruits seedling plant & 50 Berangan & Emas sucklings. Managed to clear about 3/4 acre of land, most probably using it to plant soursop.

Back for my holidays tomorrow. A 2 weeks break rclxms.gif

Happy Chinese New Year!
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post Feb 20 2013, 02:45 PM

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Jackfruit Tree attacked by Borer. To be taken care of by 505

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Foot Long Papaya. Had been using Amino Pure for 2 weeks and the result is showing already as the higher 'branches' shows growth and getting bigger than the lower ones.

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