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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V41, BPL - Man City 1 - 3 Chelsea

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post Sep 12 2016, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 12 2016, 01:26 AM)
I said that he will deliver. Sigh~

my original point was, Cesc look better and effective because he came in late in the game, opponent players were tired to close down giving him more time on the ball to deliver great passes. That is all.

not sure which part of the statement that we are arguing about.

oscar and matic was all over the pitch, matic was not defensive midfielder, his role is box-to box with a good defensive skill. to win ball higher in the pitch and yes box to box sometimes play higher than striker, ie Lampard.
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ok. i kasi korek my statement. how to know he cant deliver as much as what he did as a sub when he yet to play from the beginning? give him chances and i can guarantee our attack will become more deadly.

matic is no lampard. he cant score goal. dont bother doing all the forward run. oscar do run all over the pitch but not contribute much.
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post Sep 12 2016, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 12 2016, 01:35 AM)
5-4-1 defensive, 3-4-3 attacking.

come on conte, do this against pool.
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3-4-3 bit hard lol.
I think 4-4-2 or 4-2-4.

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post Sep 12 2016, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 12 2016, 01:31 AM)
Then next game you will see Iva still at right
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if really want to play iva, i would rather let him play on right. infact he was good in this match.

Swansea play the typical epl rough game with no footballing skill at all, no wonder english team or england never go far out side their country. And it even funny is that the referee allow this type of game to go on, if it is la liga it would have been a few sending off already.
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post Sep 12 2016, 01:43 AM

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post Sep 12 2016, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 12 2016, 01:39 AM)
Cahill oh cahill.
So next game luiz-terry partnership again.
Will fabregas given chance on next game. hmm.gif
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JT macam injured after FT.. maybe Cahill + Luiz biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 12 2016, 01:43 AM)
if really want to play iva,  i would rather let him play on right. infact he was good in this match.

Swansea play the typical epl rough game with no footballing skill at all, no wonder english team or england never go far out side their country. And it even funny is that the referee allow this type of game to go on, if it is la liga it would have been a few sending off already.
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Epl referee? Quality terrible and cannot persoal.

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 12 2016, 01:31 AM)
Then next game you will see Iva still at right
Hahaha
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Haha oh well. He was blameless in today's game and contributed a lot going forward. However conte now needs to decide whether he gambles with alonso or luiz in the next game. I have a slight preference for alonso seeing how brana is no stranger playing as a CB, but then again luiz and his speed is a much more vital characteristic to possess vs liverpool and he's no stranger to that position either hmm.gif

Ahhh I just keep remembering hazard's saved one on one as well as diego's missed tap in. Haih. Just had to make it harder for ourselves.
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post Sep 12 2016, 02:36 AM

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We should win this game at the first half! Two point dropped!

Matic kante oscar good and solid but lack of creativity. Hazard forgot to wear his goalscoring boot. We badly need cesc in midfield.


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http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/201...l-costs-chelsea

Cahill tweeted a gif of the incident and complained on twitter.
incoming FA ban/fine on Cahill
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post Sep 12 2016, 05:31 AM

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looking at that again, now I feel kindda sorry for what happened to Cahill.

not the best first touch, but without the foul..he in complete control of the ball..

oh btw, he deleted the tweets.
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Too tired to comment last night. But 1 thing for sure, im done being too positive like last season. Lets rectify the problem asap.

First, we lack of creativity. Oscar at it again and we need a maestro. The only maestro in our current squad is cesc fabregas. So i vote oscar out fab in. Dont ever think bench fab is a good idea coz its not and how many season more we need to see "creative" oscar. But oscar can contribute one thing which is..

Second, defense. Yes oscar can defense. But it will be vice versa on the overall squad performance which is no creativity. To put in fab is to put out oscar/matic. To do that we need to fix our damn defense. So i hope zouma to get well soon and luiz to get ready fast.

Third, if our defense are fix but conte still bench fab, we will be getting kdb 2.0 and from what i know, letting kdb himself go is really a big lost.

Yes we cant put in fab because it will create a hole. But dont expect to have creativity orgasm if we put in oscar. So, last night game can easily be our weaknesses and other managers will use this to counter us more to come that is for sure. Last but not least, draw is better than lose and remember, we still at building stages. Conte done a great job so far despite we draw because he manage to glue most of the team in less than half season
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 12 2016, 01:47 AM)
Epl referee? Quality terrible and cannot persoal.
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Remind me of someting biggrin.gif. Btw i watch over and over again costa goal. Miss the creativity in fab so much. Can we try to play 4141 againts pool? Put matic beside fab and kante to cover .
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Thibo
Azpi Terry Cahill/Luiz Alonso
Kante Matic
Willian Cesc Hazard
Costa

Kante and Matic double pivot will release cesc creativity
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QUOTE(gry @ Sep 12 2016, 08:56 AM)
Thibo
Azpi Terry Cahill/Luiz Alonso
Kante Matic
Willian Cesc Hazard
Costa

Kante and Matic double pivot will release cesc creativity
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I scare fab just receive ball, 2-3 players already near him
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post Sep 12 2016, 09:14 AM

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4-3-3 with matic cesc Kante in the middle should be good enough IMO.

For Friday game, I'm going to go with this lineup

Courtois
Dave Cahill JT Alonso
Matic Fab Kante
Moses / Pedro Costa Hazard

*No iva. Suicidal vs speed of firmino or coutinho
*No Willian. Lazy as fuck last night. I hate the fact that he is still consider as one of the untouchable.
*No Oscar. Too average in both attack and defense.

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 12 2016, 08:58 AM)
I scare fab just receive ball, 2-3 players already near him
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That would be good coz he only need to touch the ball and release it to hazard or costa. 2 3 players surrounding him will lead to a hole that we can exploit. He just need to hold for 1 sec and release it
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Sep 12 2016, 08:54 AM)
Too tired to comment last night. But 1 thing for sure, im done being too positive like last season. Lets rectify the problem asap.

First, we lack of creativity. Oscar at it again and we need a maestro. The only maestro in our current squad is cesc fabregas. So i vote oscar out fab in. Dont ever think bench fab is a good idea coz its not and how many season more we need to see "creative" oscar. But oscar can contribute one thing which is..

Second, defense. Yes oscar can defense. But it will be vice versa on the overall squad performance which is no creativity. To put in fab is to put out oscar/matic. To do that we need to fix our damn defense. So i hope zouma to get well soon and luiz to get ready fast.

Third, if our defense are fix but conte still bench fab, we will be getting kdb 2.0 and from what i know, letting kdb himself go is really a big lost.

Yes we cant put in fab because it will create a hole. But dont expect to have creativity orgasm if we put in oscar. So, last night game can easily be our weaknesses and other managers will use this to counter us more to come that is for sure. Last but not least, draw is better than lose and remember, we still at building stages. Conte done a great job so far despite we draw because he manage to glue most of the team in less than half season
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Actually we can make do with rlc in matic place as well...

Hes more attackinn oriented and i think matic offer little in term of going forward...

Its like a DM being put in an attacking midfielder position

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Sep 12 2016, 02:02 AM)
what can i say conte really late on substitution..he should subs fab n batshuayi earlier

and cahill, why the hell he do dumb mistake like that

can't blame on kortua for the penalty, there is no one to cover him at that time
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Cahill have been subpar and slow decline the past 2 years.

Just hope zouma come back and take his place
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 12 2016, 09:38 AM)
Actually we can make do with rlc in matic place as well...

Hes more attackinn oriented and i think matic offer little in term of going forward...

Its like a DM being put in an attacking midfielder position
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Against pool, i think better put the experience players. But last 2 season we take a risk by putting kalas. So why not with rcl biggrin.gif. Anything can happen. Tbh this season if can achieve top 4 also would be great! Or should i say top 3 since no 4 spot will not guarantee safe spot for cl
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post Sep 12 2016, 10:00 AM

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Just found out the stupid referee is the one DIDN'T SEE aguero elbow last round
his epic was confused between Chamberlain & Gibbs
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