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Looking at preliminary specs, 2016 Persona is a downgrade of Iriz. Proton management is really clueless, lauching Perdana , not Saga/Persona, knowing that Bezza is imminent.

wow, which part is downgrade?

Compare to iriz, no DRL, not projector headlamp, bulb tail lamp. Compare to old Persona, rear multilink suspension and rear disc brake.

The CVT and engine is still a main issue. Own a Preve and test driven iriz, the CVT is almost similar, which is in fact the worst in the market. The engine is severely underpower as well as compared to Almera, City or Vios.

Pricing is also pretty steep for the new Persona. You can get the top range Bezza for the base persona.

The Bezza 1.3L offers pretty good pulling power for 5 adults versus iriz 1.6L. Although 1.6L for iriz, the acceleration is very loud and harsh and feels much slower than the Bezza. The engine responsiveness and CVT gearbox is really bad for the iriz as compared to the myvi or even Axia.

Not sure how much they have improved for the persona I doubt there will be any changes at all.

Ive tested the bezza, no confidence in overtaking.. Even changing lanes need to consider the incoming car from really far, then can only switch. If not youre forcing the incoming car to brake. Even if i push the acceleration, the engine goes up to 5k rpm and the speed rises too slow. Noise is there too. But then again im using 1.6manual, so maybe im not used to it.

they are going the same route as city for disc brake..claim distance different is minimal compared to disc brake.
DRL, headlamp, bulb tail lamp aren't big issues really, i see the drl is more on cosmetic side. LED aren't that cheap to replace

The only Proton getting positive reviews is Proton MT models ie Iriz, Preve with Getrag MT. For AT, should choose only traditional AT or something like DSG.

wise decision put fancy light later that light kaput not replace.. u can already see many proton with those kaput fancy light. Eye sore.

This post has been edited by zaman_chem: Aug 21 2016, 04:02 PM

Hehe.....

NNNOOOOOoooooo......

CVT dah banyak komplen jerking....kalo masuk DSG, owners will set fire to their service centers and dealerships.

Just a conventional Aisin 6AT will do. Heck I'd take a Honda 5AT.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 21 2016, 04:49 PM

have one
the bezza feel faster because it's scarier. can drive relax je on iriz at 160 but on bezza 140kmh is far too scary. personally I think the new persona will employ the same tricks P2/Mazda use, ignore driver command and accelerated slowly, I noticed bezza won't want to go beyond 3k rpm unless you forced it so.

but I agreed that it would be a hard sell at the price they wanted. not unless they stuff the persona with equal amount of toys.

drl is a miss(even if it isnt a regulation in malaysia need for drl), projector n reflector do have a diff,but in this segment,not much diff. led tail light,erm,i think even with bulb,i think its nice,even nicer than any led proton made prev. vw polo or vento tail light kinda.

rear mulilink/independant and disk brake,saving as much cost and weight as possible,but they did improve the braking performance n handling,so,not much diff than original persona n even better.

most of the cost in for me is what matter most. Simple example,the tyre,where the iriz is using sm3 n sm5 for premium,now it use kruizer n assurance for premium,n its not any gajah tunggal anymore.

if u see the indicative price is 47k to 61k,its even cheaper than 1.6 iriz exec as starter,n cheaper than iriz premium,n it has a proper boot.

i have to admit,its hard to beat bezza albeit persona is doesnt mean to beat bezza,same as iriz,it doesnt mean to beat axia,but aiming for myvi,but since as for 2nd car or k car,price does matter,axia not only kill iriz,but also myvi.

if persona beat bezza in sales,i think the proton tops will do a chicken dance...ha..ha..

its hard to make persona as cheap as bezza,as it is based on iriz.

but i think new saga IS interm of price. But sales,depend on how malaysian perceive new persona. if good,then saga will be well.

nothing's wrong with it.. its just the warranty will be ended nxt year & during these unstable economy i need a cheaper optional ride.

Episode 2

Proton Safety 360 Ep 2

This post has been edited by Khai RULE: Aug 22 2016, 04:10 PM

Any further info for exora major feslif?
Sliding door? Dashboard? GB?

Not sure if Bezza dare to show the side impact test?
Look good but need to see the real car before decide.
The extra 10k for 4 airbags, keyless entry, reverse camera and leather seat does worth the money.

Terbaik. Im wondering why proton not advertise this at tv? Not everyone got time to browse internet.

Malaysian ma how many times you shows the safety feature, they only care the outlook instead of safety. No DRLs, no other cosmetic instant reject.