Pity they don't offer the manual trans for executive/premium, can I special order for this kind of thing?
Proton Persona 2016 Booking?
Proton Persona 2016 Booking?
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Aug 15 2016, 12:30 PM
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Pity they don't offer the manual trans for executive/premium, can I special order for this kind of thing?
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Aug 22 2016, 08:37 PM
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Aug 23 2016, 02:12 PM
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Aug 23 2016, 03:57 PM
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Aug 26 2016, 11:35 AM
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Goes to 3 different show room, not even single one have manual persona to test drive on. Pity manual transmission di anak tiri kan :'(
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Aug 27 2016, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2016, 04:20 PM) Just had a short test drive session at Taman Wahyu Proton dealer while i was on the way home sending my iswara for a rear bumper installation/repair lol Tested the car today at the same place as yours, some more I just speed through the road bumper and all and the SA doesn't mind at all pros: - the engine bay is really neat - Made in china Bosch ESP module on the left - very thick looking anti roll bar and neat looking electric powered steering rack - the 510 liter rear boot space is HUGE and really impressive for a b segment. if anything, seemingly same, if not bigger sized than my c segment inspira. - engine response seems better than the Iriz - the new TCU tuning on the punch transmission was really impressive compared to the Iriz experience. Less hesitation and less jerking on low speeds; Makes you forget if you're even on a clutch based CVT. - Suspension/handling was impressive even if it was only short distance with generally straight roads. and while i didn't get to test the ESP on more extreme cornering, i did get to fly through lots of road bumps/uneven roads within Taman Wahyu vicinity and the ride is really supple all the way. really good balance for an a to b comfort oriented family sedan. - NVH is even improved from the Iriz! although my particular car (that has 400km driven despite being a test drive car LOL! looks like good demand/interest!) has dashboard rattling when i bring the RPMs up to 6k (impressive, given its a CVT unit, and without engaging L gear as well!) to emphasize how well it is, besides the engine roar that came up only past 4k rpm, the air cond fan blowing was the only noise i heard. - aircond/fan speed knobs etc was further improved from the Iriz, much sturdier and the clicks are very pleasant from switching it up around. - steering has a damn nice feel to it despite being electric power steering. not too heavy, not too light, just right for me. - i LOVE the frabric seats, more so than the leather really good feel and since it is dark colored, looks like it'll last very long as well with minimal to no maintenance required. - Love the meter cluster design! very high contrast of white/red/black background themed. a bit small though however considering the overall dashboard/panels have shrunk in size as the persona is basically a b segment, understandable i guess. cons: - gear lever position is really far - steering position a bit high after lifting it up for leg clearance - speaking of leg clearance, the foot well in the front is quite cramped. it would be amazing if they can score 5 star NCAP/ANCAP without deducting points from the crash dummy avoiding leg injury as the bottom dashboard portion and the steering is basically in contact with my knees all the time. - and again on the footwell, the left foot rest for the automatic is basically just beside the brake pedal which doesn't leave room for the clutch pedal and a footrest combined if you look at how cramped it is. makes one wonder if the manual would be even feasible or not with the given position - YES AGAIN on the foot positioning, the pedals were pretty weird to me as the brakes were a bit higher up than the accelerator. ignoring that it is quite far apart between each other (yes i know its an auto however usually they don't specifically re-design/re-position the pedals between auto/manual variants) the high/low positioning of the brake and accelerator also leaves much to be desired. Did i mention the accelerator being lowly positioned? yes, oddly enough the travel of said accelerator pedal is very minimal, seemingly in an almost "on/off" switch ish with very little applicable modulation. maybe its just my personal problem with a lead chained intensely heavy right foot, but hey this may actually be a good thing depending on how you look at it. - still apparent throttle lag/response on the DBW system/Clutch engagement of the punch transmission, although from the rough feel, still slightly better than the Iriz. however, once you get it going, it goes, nuff said |
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Aug 27 2016, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2016, 06:32 PM) I'm used to it since modern car (like my late Inspira) also barely can set the front bonnet at all. Same like you my height also 179 ish cm hehe. The front sensor, if i'm not mistaken they'll keep/beep once if there is any incoming object around the car (similar to myvi front sensor but myvi sound so annoying). Queued behind a car at the traffic junction, the sensor will beep once you get near the front car. Btw there is no option to turn off this feature (the female SA told me) I don't know whether it will be annoyance for some user.So ya, leg space for me isn't ideal at all. What about your experience on the leg space? Btw how to know if the front sensor is working? I also didn't really test parking around the car, just speed 1 round around Taman Wahyu and go back show room reverse parking back the end liao lol. The leg room for the driver are quite okay for me, I still got some leg room to move around but the seat need to be set at lowest point. Just that for the passenger especially at the back, for a big guy, they'll have a hard time to comfort themself as the leg room are quite limited, can't move around but my mom said it's comfy enough. Langgar all bumper she said still quite comfy at behind, my mum like 150cm. |
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Aug 27 2016, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2016, 10:33 PM) i see, didnt really get close to any object in front so front sensor never activated i guess. As you said the gear knob are way to far, if the seat are set way behind. Apparently with my short hand I won't be comfortable enough changing the gear. my seating position is lowest and i made sure of that as i was adjusting everything before i begin my drive. i had my seat pulled up quite close as the steering/gear lever positioning wasn't ideal for the slight bend stretched arm and on a full lock to lock turn tests, and of course imagining myself driving a manual car where i'll be frequently having my hand on the gear lever. what is "bang/knock all the bumper" did your mom meant btw? lol my uncle was sitting in front while SA behind so he had no complaints on the seats as the passenger side quite ok since no need to worry about the steering/pedals unlike driver. My mom always complain when shes inside my old car every time we hit a speed bumper, or lubang, passenger will always feel the hardest feedback, sometimes she even levitate (tercampak) abit QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 27 2016, 10:51 PM) huh? how come the one i tested worked differently? I don't know for sure hows the beeping goes, but 1 thing for sure the SA mention theres no switch to turn off the sensor. If the SA were wrong, that's 1 more thing to add not to trust proton SA, misleading information.i know there is a button to manually activate the front parking sensor when needed, i did test it out with my SA. after turning it on, my SA go in front of the car and the buzzer beeped. While off, nothing happened when he stepped in front. btw, thr is an indicator on the dashboard when front sensor is activated |
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Aug 28 2016, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 28 2016, 05:38 AM) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4mQZkonT...LThGa210dUF4N28 Thank you for the image, now I know there is a switch to disable the sensor the 1st switch from left is the front parking sensor switch please dont rely on them to give u correct info btw, not only proton SA, in fact, almost all of the SA that i have talked to give misleading info last time one mazda SA insisted and argued with me that their mazda 2 auto is dual clutch unit QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Aug 28 2016, 11:25 AM) Thinking of getting this car for my wife. CVT ok or not? Also how is the service center experience as compared to P2? Not sure if I should go new Persona / Bezza or used City / Vios. Keyword here, you gotta test drive both car. Gotta feel hows the car drive, especially for your wife since she will be the one who will be driving the car. |
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Aug 28 2016, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Aug 28 2016, 07:26 PM) development,cost(at development of preve/suprima) n ecu lomitation. new ecu in campro nfe is 32bits bosch motronic ems, while cfe n iafm+ using 32bits easyu by continental. I like reading your comment mat79, are you in anyway related with proton or involve with the developement? |
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Aug 31 2016, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 31 2016, 01:18 PM) Well i got a call that the Taman Wahyu proton show room have a manual Persona available. HOWEVER it is not for test drive, only can go in sit sit je. Booked Manual Persona last week, reading your comment on how the gear knob for cvt are way too far, really make me sweat cold because I thought the manual gear knob setup would be the same as cvt one. After reading your comment on the manual variant, I really feel glad.As i had a detour for a supposedly visit to the palace of the golden horses which at last minute got canceled/re-scheduled (or more like sticking back to original schedule), had to spend over an hour on traffic and passing by jalan kucing/ipoh that will surely pass by that show room as well anyways - might as well go look-see and to my surprise the show room is open at almost 9pm LOL! well the normal operating hour is only until 8pm, however there are customer booked a rather late time slot so there's one SA (Zamani, good chap, commendable for his services so i gave a tour to my sister (who was accompanying me since we are car pooling for the time being as i couldn't ride to work for now) and she was quite impressed with how different the new Persona is. Unfortunately we didn't request for a test drive since it's way past the SA's working hours and it would be rather inconvenient to him haha. Now back to main "topic" of the manual variant: - gear knob is removed to prevent theft, problem is the SA didn't know where it was being safe kept so... yea i had to play around the shifter without a gear knob attached to it LOL - shift gating is ALMOST PERFECT for a family sedan, almost similar to a sporty feel WRX STI short throw shift gate that i experienced way back then my visit to motor image. (also without shift knob, and yes imagine shifting a short throw without a knob duh lol) yes it is NOT a short throw shift box and it is NOT a sports car, however given what it is meant for and the crisp shifting feel i get, albeit it is stationary and not on the road while driving (that's where the synchros would come fuck you up lol!) i am fairly satisfied with it. - to my utmost surprise, the brake pedal is ACTUALLY LEVELED with the accelerator pedal! trying out rev matching foot work with the Persona R was a VERY pleasant experience compared to when i was trying it on the CVT variant. The accelerator pedal however no changes from the CVT, and with the "on/off nature" i felt during the test drive, it would definitely take some effort/time to get used to rev matching the Persona i'd reckon/assume. - lastly, NOT surprising AT ALL, THERE IS NO FOOT REST FOR THE MANUAL HAHAHAHAHA no seriously, even my (or rather my sis's) kancil 660 has it |
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Aug 31 2016, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 31 2016, 03:11 PM) you booked a car without test driving? Don't judge me please, I was desperate for what it's worth, the cvt knob is only really far out on p/reverse position. the manual shift stick over all seems fine, even without the shift knob installed lol a "bit" far on gear 1 though if anything. |
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Sep 1 2016, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 1 2016, 03:56 AM) bro, i got news that COSE got manual available for test drive, jom this Saturday? Sadly I'm not available the rest of the weekend i'll need to make a call before heading over to confirm if it is available on that day itself, as availability is very low and it might be transported to other dealer on rotation basis and what not. (or possibly even car wash/service/whatever else) QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Aug 31 2016, 10:21 PM) Keep us posted on the manual version please From what my SA told me, Every part (Plug, Engine Oil, Timing Belt, CVT oil and etc) that needed to be change during service will be cover by proton. You just need to come to service centre, service your car and go home without paying anything. If there is an extra part that needed to be change, the will notify you first whether it need to be change or not.BTW anyone knows what parts are covered under the 3 year warranty? |
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Sep 1 2016, 08:16 AM
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Sep 1 2016, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Sep 1 2016, 12:40 PM) contacted proton care about the free 3 years parts here's what they have to say 120K KM? my saga need to change every 50K KM.[attachmentid=7437210] not bad imo beltings are not covered unfortunately but unless travel a lot then shouldnt worry since need 120k before replacing so the first 3 years should be okay |
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Sep 1 2016, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Invader Zim @ Sep 1 2016, 04:26 PM) Saga blm? The factory's timing belt can last untill 100k or even 120k.. but i changed mine at 80k just to be on the safe side. Changing at 50k is a waste of money and any workshop tell you otherwise is trying to cheat you QUOTE(dares @ Sep 1 2016, 04:46 PM) Oh my god, is this really true? I changed mine twice already. Afraid the belt suddenly putus like that. FML |
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Sep 1 2016, 04:46 PM
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Sep 4 2016, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(pauh @ Sep 4 2016, 08:24 AM) Should get the car by the end of this week, if your loan already approved. My SA said, once loan is approved, apporx 1 week will get the car.QUOTE(BrotherTan @ Sep 3 2016, 04:54 PM) I just got my new car, the car plat is installed but still cannot drive back, reason is the proton salesman cannot register my car under proton, they cannot pay the custom excess duty thru online. Have been waiting it from last thursday until now, hope Monday can gao dim or else what can I do? Any clue why they didn't pay the excise duty before installing the car plate, from what I known. Everything need to be settled first before the car can get the plate no and all.Notes: Who asked my loan approved so much and the car so fast delivery to me but unfortunately I can't drive back, just show my car on engine, on light. Lol~ |
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Sep 4 2016, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(hahacom @ Sep 4 2016, 11:43 AM) Wow. Both of you are so lucky to be the earliest Persona owner. Not really looking to change the rim and also the tyre. Changing the rim especially different rim size will void the warranty btw did you planning to straight away change the car tyre and rim after get the car? change with light weight 16" rim + Advan DB (quiet tyre) = comfort setting ![]() Or Change with light weight 16" rim + Re003 (stick like glue tyre)= sport setting The car would look nicer with 16" rim. Especially solid white persona + black sport rim ![]() Just go to showroom today with my dad for new Persona The price is very very hard to say no Worth every cent Plss keep the update ones receive the car yaa.. |
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Sep 7 2016, 08:20 AM
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Schedule to get the car this saturday, but I'm not hoping to get it on time as no chassis number were given yet.
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