why?
seem like iriz still the premium model
same hardware different software
all we need to do is nagged P1 to flash the new ecu

Personally I think they Pandan the ecu
Bezza has a Pandan ecu that never allowed pipu to redline
So NHV is quite good

Win some lose some.

what they gonna do next year?
got preve facelift or not?

don't think the MPV market is good now though. it's more of a MPV that look like a SUV market rite now

not really
that 30k is from the discriminatory protection policies design to make DRB rich and not towards paying off any parts of the car.

so proton could/should have better engine and build quality for the price they are asking

you talk so long then finally prove my point
the policy is designed to make DRB rich

why want to sell high
when they could sell more?

by matter of free trade, someone's being some small Japanese firms, Korean, European will likely play low ball and charges less. the fact that none did except for Toyota through P2 speak of a disfinctional market conditions created by either government intervention or oligopolies.

have one
the bezza feel faster because it's scarier. can drive relax je on iriz at 160 but on bezza 140kmh is far too scary. personally I think the new persona will employ the same tricks P2/Mazda use, ignore driver command and accelerated slowly, I noticed bezza won't want to go beyond 3k rpm unless you forced it so.

but I agreed that it would be a hard sell at the price they wanted. not unless they stuff the persona with equal amount of toys.

why use emoticons and assumptions?
let use science.

highly likely persona maintaince will be similar to iriz so 100k km will cost RM4163. while bezza will cost rm2768.
the 3 years 60k free maintaince should cost rm2624. so you will have to add rm1539 for the 4th and 5th year. so the whole 5year of ownership of persona is rm1085 less than a bezza. not sure why proton want to change spark plugs every 30k though while bezza plugs is used for 100k km. air filter every 20k vs 30k, coolants every 30k vs 40k, only better is gearbox oil with 60k vs 40k.

this is according to the service price list available on respective car thread ( but I ignore the cent though) the iriz is calculated using semi synthetics as on the price list. not sure bout bezza though, but I heard they use P2 branded petronas fully synthetic. also not sure if persona free service is entitled for a semi synthetics, most likely like iriz they will just give normal natural oil. this also did not include the difference in monthly payments nor fuel which is more for proton.

also why you go to the "correct" shop and risk warranty being voided. a very stupid idea if one is owning a proton though. add it all up, then highly likely that owning the bezza would be cheaper. almost everyone without even the need to calculate knows this. to own a proton one will just has to understand and acknowledge whether or not the extra cost and annoyance is worth it for the driving pleasure.

This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Aug 24 2016, 10:45 PM

Any words from your deep throat on who the new owners would be? if I have to bet, I would guess Peugeot Citroen

personally I don't find proton engineering is severely lacking though. it's seem P1 suffered from the same problem with Sony mobile, eventhough the engineering is great but it seems they have a much harder time with design, market research and decisions making though.

Not really
The government used to spend RM20 Billions a year on fuel subsidies
That's 10% of revenue and not go mentioned other subsidies for highways and car infrastructure
That's more than what excise duty is capable of producing.

There's only 2 optional scenarios
1)like the rest of South East Asia, we kene conned more like in Thailand or Singapore where not only the car is expensive, the fuel is too.

2)pull an Australian?

agreed with SA
don't buy 2 of the same car