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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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post Sep 19 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 10:51 AM)
Don't worry then, GTX1070 G1 Gaming's length is just 280mm, I had tried putting GTX970 G1 Gaming (299mm), it fitted nicely even with a radiator installed in front with two 120mm casing fans.

What you need to worry is the width, Air 240 doesn't have the width clearance needed by many cards out there, only G1 Gaming, FE cards (possibly more) are able to fit if you want to close the side window panel.
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Hmm didn't notice the width could be a problem as well...do you think the Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 could pose a problem?
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:58 AM

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So I've check with both etech and idealtech,

etech price
INTEL I5 6402P RM707
H110M-DS2 RM255
KINGSTON KVR2133MHZ 8GB DDR4 RM147
PALIT GTX1060 JETSTREAM 6GB GDDR5 RM1215
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 120GB SSD RM239
SEAGATE 1TB BARRACUDA RM207
FSP HEXA+ 550WATT RM185
TECWARE F3 RED RM119
ID COOLING 120L FROSTFLOW RM220

TOTAL RM3294

ideal tech
INTEL CORE I5 6400 775
ASUS H110M-K 253
G.SKILL AEGIS Series 8GB DDR4 2133mhz 169
PALIT GTX 1060 Jetstream 6GB DR5/192Bit (1708/8000) 1349
XIGMATEK X-Calibre 500W (80+/NON MODULAR) 199
Sharkoon VG5-W (BLUE) 199
SAMSUNG 750 EVO 120GB 229
SEAGATE 1TB Barracuda 219
1.FREE 150MBPS USB Dongle 0 0 0
2.FREE REBATED RM50 ON SHARKOON/Xigmatek/IN-WIN Casing -50 1 -50
Total and GST Included 3342

Question,
1. do i really need cooler for non k cpu? could use the extra money for 240gb ssd.

2. palit dual and palit jetstream, dual review is just good also. so its ok for me to go for dual rather than jetstream right?

3. etech after sale service ok or not? idealtech after sale service is damn good, but abit expensive.

4. both shops actually using local distributor parts right? no problem for rma services?

Thank you so much. sorry for long post. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 10:52 AM)
Hmm didn't notice the width could be a problem as well...do you think the Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 could pose a problem?
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G1 Gaming is fine.

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The width of some cards in the market is very "tall" or "long", so if you install these cards in Air 240, it's either you chop off the window panel for the PCIe power cable or leave the side panel open.
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 11:09 AM)
G1 Gaming is fine.

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The width of some cards in the market is very "tall" or "long", so if you install these cards in Air 240, it's either you chop off the window panel for the PCIe power cable or leave the side panel open.
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Wa definitely don't want to chop anything sweat.gif Prefer to just plug in and play style haha. I guess since G1 Gaming is fine then it's better to go for it. Thanks for the opinion man! thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(buzz123 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:58 AM)
So I've check with both etech and idealtech,

etech price
INTEL I5 6402P RM707
H110M-DS2 RM255
KINGSTON KVR2133MHZ 8GB DDR4 RM147
PALIT GTX1060 JETSTREAM 6GB GDDR5 RM1215
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 120GB SSD RM239
SEAGATE 1TB BARRACUDA RM207
FSP HEXA+ 550WATT RM185
TECWARE F3 RED RM119
ID COOLING 120L FROSTFLOW RM220

TOTAL RM3294

ideal tech
INTEL CORE I5 6400  775
ASUS H110M-K  253
G.SKILL AEGIS Series 8GB DDR4 2133mhz  169
PALIT GTX 1060 Jetstream 6GB DR5/192Bit (1708/8000) 1349
XIGMATEK X-Calibre 500W (80+/NON MODULAR)  199
Sharkoon VG5-W (BLUE)  199
SAMSUNG 750 EVO 120GB  229
SEAGATE 1TB Barracuda  219
1.FREE 150MBPS USB Dongle 0 0 0
2.FREE REBATED RM50 ON SHARKOON/Xigmatek/IN-WIN Casing -50 1 -50
Total and GST Included 3342

Question,
1. do i really need cooler for non k cpu? could use the extra money for 240gb ssd.

2. palit dual and palit jetstream, dual review is just good also. so its ok for me to go for dual rather than jetstream right?

3. etech after sale service ok or not? idealtech after sale service is damn good, but abit expensive.

4. both shops actually using local distributor parts right? no problem for rma services?

Thank you so much. sorry for long post. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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1. You need a cooler, every CPU needs a cooler, but not all CPU require aftermarket cooler, non-K CPU runs fine on stock cooler.

2. If the price is too close, then Jetstream will be more worth since it comes with a better cooling solution and factory overclocked settings.

3. After sales services by ETech is ok for me, if you have issue with the item and want to send for warranty, just bring the item and receipt to the shop. If you want free pickup service, then you will have to choose Idealtech.

4. RMA largely depends on the local distributors, if they have technicians and parts available locally then pray hard that the item can be fixed in short amount of time, if not they will send back the item to the origin country to repair or exchange for a new unit, i.e. EVGA card is sent back to USA for RMA if I recall correctly.
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 11:12 AM)
Wa definitely don't want to chop anything sweat.gif Prefer to just plug in and play style haha. I guess since G1 Gaming is fine then it's better to go for it. Thanks for the opinion man! thumbsup.gif
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Yea it is better to leave everything on "stock" unless you are planning to mod the chassis laugh.gif

I had this chassis last time but sadly it can only fit few GPU models, so I sold it off and bought another chassis for my current card.

Beware of the PCIe power cable as well, if the cable touches the side window then high chance it gonna leave a "scar" on the window itself.
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 11:26 AM)
Yea it is better to leave everything on "stock" unless you are planning to mod the chassis  laugh.gif

I had this chassis last time but sadly it can only fit few GPU models, so I sold it off and bought another chassis for my current card.

Beware of the PCIe power cable as well, if the cable touches the side window then high chance it gonna leave a "scar" on the window itself.
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Oh shit...the Air 240 seems a lot of trouble. The reason I am asking is that I am currently trying to convert my existing big case to mini ATX case like Air 240. Some part like hard disk, SSD and power supply I will use back..the rest have to change.
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post Sep 19 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 11:28 AM)
Oh shit...the Air 240 seems a lot of trouble. The reason I am asking is that I am currently trying to convert my existing big case to mini ATX case like Air 240. Some part like hard disk, SSD and power supply I will use back..the rest have to change.
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Air 240 isn't a "real" mITX case though since it can fit mATX mobo biggrin.gif

If you haven't bought this chassis yet then you can consider other model if you want to have minimum compromise.
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post Sep 19 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 12:02 PM)
Air 240 isn't a "real" mITX case though since it can fit mATX mobo  biggrin.gif

If you haven't bought this chassis yet then you can consider other model if you want to have minimum compromise.
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I prefer Air 240 cause easy to carry around haha. Else I would consider Phanteks.
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post Sep 19 2016, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 12:02 PM)
I prefer Air 240 cause easy to carry around haha. Else I would consider Phanteks.
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Is side window a must for you? If yes then you can consider Fractal Design Nano S biggrin.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 12:30 PM)
Is side window a must for you? If yes then you can consider Fractal Design Nano S  biggrin.gif
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Yea I prefer side window laugh.gif

EDIT: Oh Fractal Design Nano is like the quiet/silent case..not really into that. Corsair Air 240 seems easy to carry around. Else I will go with this:

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv.html
http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-ITX.html

EDIT 2: On second thought, I was planning to move my Asus 970 to my old gaming rig case but macam cannot fit...

The old gaming rig case is Cooler Master Elite 310 sweat.gif

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post Sep 19 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 12:56 PM)
Yea I prefer side window  laugh.gif

EDIT: Oh Fractal Design Nano is like the quiet/silent case..not really into that. Corsair Air 240 seems easy to carry around. Else I will go with this:

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv.html
http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-ITX.html
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Air 240 is easier to carry around compared to Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX, I am using the latter now, owned the former one.

Air 240 is smaller and with limited clearance.

Evolv ITX is bigger and heavier, but you surely have enough clearance for your hardware, downside is the limited amount of drive slot.

Both have pros and cons.
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 01:18 PM)
Air 240 is easier to carry around compared to Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX, I am using the latter now, owned the former one.

Air 240 is smaller and with limited clearance.

Evolv ITX is bigger and heavier, but you surely have enough clearance for your hardware, downside is the limited amount of drive slot.

Both have pros and cons.
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I don't really use much of the drive slot. In fact I don't even use the dvd drive. Planning to give it to my old gaming rig. As long as the air flow is decent without overheating issue I guess I am okay. No plan for SLI as well.

I think if I were to pass down my GTX 970 to my old Cooler Master Elite 310 I will need to mod a bit like removing the hard disk cage...but then my hard disk put where? hmm.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 01:21 PM)
I don't really use much of the drive slot. In fact I don't even use the dvd drive. Planning to give it to my old gaming rig. As long as the air flow is decent without overheating issue I guess I am okay. No plan for SLI as well.

I think if I were to pass down my GTX 970 to my old Cooler Master Elite 310 I will need to mod a bit like removing the hard disk cage...but then my hard disk put where? hmm.gif
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Both models don't have DVD drive slot (or 5.25" drive slot) at all.

Air 240 - 3 3.5" & 3 2.5"

Evolv ITX - 2 3.5" & 2 2.5" (can add more 2.5" by getting the dual stack 2.5" drive cage)

I have a very aged Pentium 4 CPU and the design of the chassis is really doh.gif , I removed the HDD cage (blocked the wires) and "fixed" the HDD with cellophane tape at the bottom laugh.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 01:41 PM)
Both models don't have DVD drive slot (or 5.25" drive slot) at all.

Air 240 - 3 3.5" & 3 2.5"

Evolv ITX - 2 3.5" & 2 2.5" (can add more 2.5" by getting the dual stack 2.5" drive cage)

I have a very aged Pentium 4 CPU and the design of the chassis is really  doh.gif , I removed the HDD cage (blocked the wires) and "fixed" the HDD with cellophane tape at the bottom  laugh.gif
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I know and I don't need the DVD drive slot. I will pass it to replace my old DVD drive in old case. Yea need to remove the HDD card if I want to fit GTX 970 to my old case hmm.gif But tape HDD with cellophane tape macam not elegant lol

EDIT: Can put HDD in the DVD drive slot? I saw there's like 5 slots there hmm.gif and I plan to add 1 more HDD to my old rig hmm.gif Remove HDD cage already dunno put where

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post Sep 19 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 11:21 AM)
1. You need a cooler, every CPU needs a cooler, but not all CPU require aftermarket cooler, non-K CPU runs fine on stock cooler.

2. If the price is too close, then Jetstream will be more worth since it comes with a better cooling solution and factory overclocked settings.

3. After sales services by ETech is ok for me, if you have issue with the item and want to send for warranty, just bring the item and receipt to the shop. If you want free pickup service, then you will have to choose Idealtech.

4. RMA largely depends on the local distributors, if they have technicians and parts available locally then pray hard that the item can be fixed in short amount of time, if not they will send back the item to the origin country to repair or exchange for a new unit, i.e. EVGA card is sent back to USA for RMA if I recall correctly.
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1. sorry i meant stock cooler.haha biggrin.gif sweat.gif . so i dont need that frostflow 120l. can get 240gb ssd then.

2. noted. nod.gif

3. noted. nod.gif

4. haha "pray hard" .. epic. lets hope i dont get that problem. haha.

Thanks bro. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 01:42 PM)
I know and I don't need the DVD drive slot. I will pass it to replace my old DVD drive in old case. Yea need to remove the HDD card if I want to fit GTX 970 to my old case hmm.gif But tape HDD with cellophane tape macam not elegant lol

EDIT: Can put HDD in the DVD drive slot? I saw there's like 5 slots there hmm.gif and I plan to add 1 more HDD to my old rig  hmm.gif Remove HDD cage already dunno put where
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Get 3.5" HDD to 5.25" bay adapter to put 3.5" HDD in the DVD drive slot.
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post Sep 19 2016, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 19 2016, 01:55 PM)
Get 3.5" HDD to 5.25" bay adapter to put 3.5" HDD in the DVD drive slot.
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Oh this could work. Remove the HDD cage, slot in the 2 HDD into 5.25" bay using that adapter hmm.gif like that my 10" GPU might fit the old casing.
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post Sep 19 2016, 02:38 PM

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terence_nwb Btw, bro are you using stock cooler for the Intel i7 6700k? Any overheat or noise issue?

EDIT: Forgot it doesn't come with stock cooler anymore sweat.gif

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post Sep 19 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 19 2016, 02:38 PM)
terence_nwb Btw, bro are you using stock cooler for the Intel i7 6700k? Any overheat or noise issue?

EDIT: Forgot it doesn't come with stock cooler anymore sweat.gif
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