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post Sep 20 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 20 2016, 12:31 PM)
Brand doesn't really matter, for example, if you are getting GTX1060 6GB, it will still be the similar chipset even you get another brand, the differences are just the cooler design (including card design), clock speed which can be adjusted manually as well since it is not locked by manufacturers and warranty (after sales services).

If you are on a limited/tight budget, just get the cheapest variant available, the extra RM 100 (or more) is not worth to spend/invest in return for few extra FPS/lower temperature  nod.gif
Thanks for the info, will check on RX470 4GB or GTX1060 3GB as per your suggest.

currently eye on zotac, palit and sapphire that near my budget.

Appreciate your help and advise. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 20 2016, 03:32 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX OC - RM 488
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W - RM 339
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3508 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Since you mentioned triple A titles, if your cousin really wants to run them at high settings, can consider getting GTX1060/RX470/RX480.
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post Sep 20 2016, 10:13 PM

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[B][Budget] RM4-5K including monitor

[Purpose] Gaming (specifically for the game Cossacks 3 which releases today)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]None

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Location] KL. Planning to get full set from Idealtech for convenience sake.

Just need to recommendations on some specific parts such as on the CPU, Mobo, CPU Cooler whether necessary, GPU

CPU: i5 Skylake
CPU Cooler: Necessary?
Mobo: Please recommend, cheapest is ok too.
GPU: GTX970 or GTX1060 for Cossacks 3? I reckon GTX970 should be good enough for FHD Cossacks 3.
Ram: Any standard 8GB Ram
SSD/HDD: Probably a Samsung 120GB 850 Evo + WD 1TB HDD
Casing: Fractal R5 or anything similar. Need a quiet and low maintenance casing with magnetic or easy to remove and clean dust filters
PSU: Any Seasonic/equivalent 550-600W PSU to recommend?
Monitor: Probably a 23-24inch Dell monitor

Will be getting the entire set from Idealtech.

Thanks!
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post Sep 20 2016, 11:55 PM

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Guys, Idealtech recommend me the following

INTEL CORE I5 6400 - RM 775
ASUS B150 PRO GAMING - RM 537
G.SKILL AEGIS Series 8GB DDR4 2133mhz - RM 169
GIGABYTE GTX1070 WINDFORCE OC 8GB - RM 1999
XIGMATEK SHOGUN 600W - RM 349
PHANTEKS ECLIPSE P400S - RM 349
WD 1TB Caviar Blue - RM 219
DELL 24" SE2417HG - RM 559

Total - RM 4886 (RM70 rebate)

My budget is around RM 4.8k. Need some comment from you guys. Is the motherboard good for future proof? (i dont plan on doing any oc though). Between Gigabyte Windforce and Palit Jetstream, which one do you think is better?

Sorry for asking many questions as this is my first build.

Previously bro terrence recommend this:

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 8 2016, 09:13 AM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Super Jetstream - RM 1265
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks Eclipse P400S - RM 349
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 4448 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Different color is having different price for the casing, I am using the base price as reference.

Your budget can fit GTX1070 (Palit Dual Fan, RM 1899) actually but you need to drop the SSD to cover up the money for it.
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post Sep 21 2016, 06:57 AM

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hi asking for a friend here. he recently ordered a gtx 1070 rig and he wants to match it with a 1440p monitor but he's not sure what to consider. thanks
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 20 2016, 10:13 PM)
[B][Budget] RM4-5K including monitor

[Purpose] Gaming (specifically for the game Cossacks 3 which releases today)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]None

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Location] KL. Planning to get full set from Idealtech for convenience sake.

Just need to recommendations on some specific parts such as on the CPU, Mobo, CPU Cooler whether necessary, GPU

CPU: i5 Skylake
CPU Cooler: Necessary?
Mobo: Please recommend, cheapest is ok too.
GPU: GTX970 or GTX1060 for Cossacks 3? I reckon GTX970 should be good enough for FHD Cossacks 3.
Ram: Any standard 8GB Ram
SSD/HDD: Probably a Samsung 120GB 850 Evo + WD 1TB HDD
Casing: Fractal R5 or anything similar. Need a quiet and low maintenance casing with magnetic or easy to remove and clean dust filters
PSU: Any Seasonic/equivalent 550-600W PSU to recommend?
Monitor: Probably a 23-24inch Dell monitor

Will be getting the entire set from Idealtech.

Thanks!
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Idealtech pricelist doesn't have GTX970 anymore so I assume it is already EOL'ed.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 489
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 169
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1249
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Fractal Design Define R5 - RM 469 (non-window version)
Dell S2316H - RM 669

Total: RM 4857 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

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post Sep 21 2016, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Sep 20 2016, 11:55 PM)
Guys, Idealtech recommend me the following

INTEL CORE I5 6400 - RM 775
ASUS B150 PRO GAMING - RM 537
G.SKILL AEGIS Series 8GB DDR4 2133mhz - RM 169
GIGABYTE GTX1070 WINDFORCE OC 8GB - RM 1999
XIGMATEK SHOGUN 600W - RM 349
PHANTEKS ECLIPSE P400S - RM 349
WD 1TB Caviar Blue - RM 219
DELL 24" SE2417HG - RM 559

Total - RM 4886 (RM70 rebate)

My budget is around RM 4.8k. Need some comment from you guys. Is the motherboard good for future proof? (i dont plan on doing any oc though). Between Gigabyte Windforce and Palit Jetstream, which one do you think is better?

Sorry for asking many questions as this is my first build.

Previously bro terrence recommend this:
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RM 537 for a B150 chipset mobo is too "overpriced" for me, I would go for low end Z170 or high end H170 with such price tag.

Gigabyte Windforce has higher clock speed than Palit Jetstream, though you can manually overclock the Jetstream to match what Windforce is offering by using tuner app.

And about the PSU, I have no idea why Idealtech keep on pushing it to users, it is a non modular PSU which is priced at ridiculous price, Seasonic M12II EVO 620 (tier 2) or Superflower Leadex Gold 550W (tier 1) both are much better choice, spend your money wisely.
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(VanillaThunder18 @ Sep 21 2016, 06:57 AM)
hi asking for a friend here. he recently ordered a gtx 1070 rig and he wants to match it with a 1440p monitor but he's not sure what to consider. thanks
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The cheapest 1440p monitor in Malaysia is Dell U2515H, which costs RM 1400+, if you (or your friend) want to save money, you can search Garage Sales for used unit or get imported set from South Korea (there is a seller helping to do this), the monitors there are much cheaper.

Dell U2515H - around RM 1400+
Dell U2715H - around RM 2000+
Dell U2717D - around RM 2250+ (new model)

Acer Predator XB271HU - around RM 3100+ (with GSync 144Hz)

and many more.
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post Sep 21 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 21 2016, 09:31 AM)
RM 537 for a B150 chipset mobo is too "overpriced" for me, I would go for low end Z170 or high end H170 with such price tag.

Gigabyte Windforce has higher clock speed than Palit Jetstream, though you can manually overclock the Jetstream to match what Windforce is offering by using tuner app.

And about the PSU, I have no idea why Idealtech keep on pushing it to users, it is a non modular PSU which is priced at ridiculous price, Seasonic M12II EVO 620 (tier 2) or Superflower Leadex Gold 550W (tier 1) both are much better choice, spend your money wisely.
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Thanks for your reply bro terrence.

Since windforce and jetstream price are the same, i think i will go with the former. What is the difference between b150 n h170? And what motherboard would you recommend that is good for future upgrading? My budget is rm400-450.

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post Sep 21 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 20 2016, 12:31 PM)

If same price, then R241Y is a no brainer choice, IPS vs VA    biggrin.gif

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vote for R241Y.....already bought it after follow suggestion.... you need to see by yourself display set at lowyat biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif IPS + thin bezel win!!!

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post Sep 21 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Sep 21 2016, 01:57 PM)
Thanks for your reply bro terrence.

Since windforce and jetstream price are the same, i think i will go with the former. What is the difference between b150 n h170? And what motherboard would you recommend that is good for future upgrading? My budget is rm400-450.
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Chipset difference, for Intel Skylake Desktop SKU, there are 4 mainstream consumer grade chipsets which are H110/B150/H170/Z170. As for the difference, you can search online (better than my explanation I suppose laugh.gif )

And for your "future upgrading" term, it contains a lot of definitions, if you mean CPU upgrade then the max upgrade for the current LGA1151 (socket) mobo is Kaby Lake (7th gen, coming soon next year), if you want to upgrade to 10nm 8th gen then you have to upgrade the mobo as well (different socket).

As for RAM upgrade, just try to get a mobo with 4 RAM slots then you should be fine (max 16GB x 4 = 64GB). SSD/HDD relies on SATA ports, 6 to 8 ports should be enough.

There are 3 main form factors, ATX, mATX and mITX (search online for the differences if you are clueless on them). Idealtech suggested an ATX sized mobo to you and if you want to maintain in this form factor, the best price/performance ratio ATX mobo would be Gigabyte H170-HD3 (less than RM 500).
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Just asking, are FSP PSUs reliable and good choice? For instance FSP HYDRO G.
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post Sep 21 2016, 03:33 PM

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[B][Budget]RM5k -6k

[Purpose]Gaming only.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]No..

[Monitor resolution] 1600 x 1200 or 1920 x 1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently]DOTA2, Adobe.

[Personal preferences]

[Location] KL.

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I prefer Cooler Master to build up for this Casing and Cooler.
I prefer Razer for my gaming equipment. (Chrome or All set in green)
Hard disk, whtever brand will do. 1 or 2 TB will do.
Graphic card, I want to play latest game. As long as can support then fine.
Processor, hmm....I7 can do within the budget? If cant, just cut to I5.
Monitor, any brand will do. as long as the budget hit.
Power supply, motherboard, totally no idea. Please advice.

What else I missed, please let me know.





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post Sep 21 2016, 04:00 PM

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Hi All,

Newbie here. need help to setup a gaming rig

[B][Budget] 2.5-3k

[Purpose]Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]mouse/keyboard/monitor

[Monitor resolution]1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]dota2,csgo,lightroom,photoshop

[Personal preferences]razer nzxt s340 case

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QUOTE(zulfadliwahab @ Sep 21 2016, 02:09 PM)
vote for R241Y.....already bought it after follow suggestion.... you need to see by yourself display set at lowyat  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif    IPS + thin bezel win!!!
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how much u bought it? if compare with vx239h or se2417hg?
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post Sep 21 2016, 05:54 PM

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is R241Y has glossy panel surface? can you at least tilt it up and down?
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Yes, you can read the review online like http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/FSP.htm
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Sep 21 2016, 02:40 PM)
Just asking, are FSP PSUs reliable and good choice? For instance FSP HYDRO G.
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Some yes, in fact they are the OEM for many brands out there.

Hydro G is one of their best PSU (tier 1 in the chart).

QUOTE(wilson7932 @ Sep 21 2016, 03:33 PM)
[B][Budget]RM5k -6k

[Purpose]Gaming only.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]No..

[Monitor resolution] 1600 x 1200 or 1920 x 1200

[Games & softwares that use frequently]DOTA2, Adobe.

[Personal preferences]

[Location] KL.

---------------------------------------------------------
I prefer Cooler Master to build up for this Casing and Cooler.
I prefer Razer for my gaming equipment. (Chrome or All set in green)
Hard disk, whtever brand will do. 1 or 2 TB will do.
Graphic card, I want to play latest game. As long as can support then fine.
Processor, hmm....I7 can do within the budget? If cant, just cut to I5.
Monitor, any brand will do. as long as the budget hit.
Power supply, motherboard, totally no idea. Please advice.

What else I missed, please let me know.
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So you wrote "Dota 2 and Adobe", mind to clarify more on "Adobe"? PS/AI/AE etc?
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QUOTE(twotrickpony @ Sep 21 2016, 04:00 PM)
Hi All,

Newbie here. need help to setup a gaming rig

[B][Budget] 2.5-3k

[Purpose]Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]mouse/keyboard/monitor

[Monitor resolution]1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]dota2,csgo,lightroom,photoshop

[Personal preferences]razer nzxt s340 case
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So it is for Dota 2 and CS:GO only? (Assuming yes for the below build) If you plan to play other games, especially triple A titles at higher settings then please consider getting a better GPU (either top up/remove SSD/get a cheaper chassis etc.)

NZXT S340 Razer chassis isn't cheap, you need to sacrifice a lot of components to fit it in the budget (for low/mid budget rig).

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 835
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX Dual - RM 635
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 279
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
NZXT S340 Razer - RM 475

Total: RM 3035 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Sep 21 2016, 05:54 PM)
is R241Y has glossy panel surface? can you at least tilt it up and down?
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Matte, can tilt up and down but not pivot (portrait mode).
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post Sep 21 2016, 08:59 PM

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Sorry what are triple a titles?

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