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post Dec 2 2016, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(kagokyousuke @ Dec 1 2016, 07:32 PM)
Thank you for the recommendation. What if using air cooler. Noctua or Cryorig.  Will it with fit the power supply?
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61mm is the clearance available, Noctua NH-L9i and Cryorig C7 both qualified for it.

QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 1 2016, 07:46 PM)
Thanks guys in advance. Please tell me if i am dreaming with the budget allocated
[Budget] - RM10k to RM20k

[Purpose] - Gaming Showcase

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - None

[Monitor resolution] - 4K

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - Latest FPS / MOBA game

[Personal preferences] - 3 or 6 monitor with custom made transparent desk to house the hardware

[Location] - KL / Selangor
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One 4K monitor is already very hard to drive even with the latest Titan X Pascal (barely hit 60 FPS in most of the titles), and you want 3 to 6 (all 4K?)?!?!

That's a serious gaming showcase plan you got there sweat.gif
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QUOTE(charsiupau @ Dec 2 2016, 01:27 AM)
Thanks! I have a few more question.  (really new in pc stuff)  sweat.gif
1) For the cooler any suggestion?
2) If i plan to upgrade to i7. Should i go for the i7 6600k version? (more future proofing?)
3) It seem that the monitor does not support g-sync? is it important to get monitor with g-sync?
4) Any other suggestion for the casing? Hoping for sleek design and sided window. (Saw reviews that the NZXT s340 paint easily scratchable)
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1. You can just stick with the stock CPU (Intel HSF) cooler since it is a non-overclockable CPU setup. If you want a 3rd party CPU cooler, something like CM Hyper 212X/Cryorig H7 (below RM 200) will do, make sure the CPU cooler height is within the available clearance value of the casing that you are going to get so it can fit inside nicely.

2. There is no i7 6600K (I assume it is a typo), i7 6700K is probably the one you are looking for, but in order to take advantage of the "K" model of i7 6700, you need a Z170 mobo to overclock it and yes, only Z170 chipset mobo (should be at least RM 550+ for entry level one) can overclock it, if you go for this path, then you confirm need to fork out extra money for a decent 3rd party CPU cooler because i7 6700K doesn't come with any stock cooler from Intel. There are 2 versions of i7 in Skylake, i7 6700 and i7 6700K, "K" means unlocked and is ready for overclocking. You can read more on CPU overclocking to understand more on its benefits and drawbacks online.

3. GSync is a luxurious proprietary technology from Nvidia and it is not cheap to get a monitor with GSync support, the cheapest one is Acer Predator XB241H priced at RM 1899 currently in our local market. It is not necessary to get a monitor with GSync, non-GSync compliance monitor will work fine with Nvidia GPU, what you don't get is the exclusive features of GSync, such as synchronized frame rate with monitor, low input lag and screen tearing. FYI FreeSync (the same offering from AMD side) is much cheaper and you can buy a FreeSync enabled monitor as low as RM 700 in Malaysia, but it is only compatible with AMD card (selected model).

4. Go for full size side window type casing or tempered glass model like Segotep K7 Tempered Glass then biggrin.gif

QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Dec 2 2016, 01:46 AM)
Thanks terence for the last reply. Im planning on upgrading my mobo and maintain my cpu. From asus z170i to asus maximus viii impact, do I need to reinstall my os? Is it harmful if I left my previous mobo's driver without removing them? Will the old driver conflict with the new mobo?
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Your Windows OS license key will be revoked, if you are using OEM key then you will need a new key (or call Microsoft for help or link your current key with your Microsoft account to be able to restore it), for retail key, you can just re-enter the key to activate on the new mobo.

By right, you are recommended to reinstall the OS, but both of the mobo (Asus Z170i Pro Gaming and Maximus VIII Impact) share almost the same components/functionalities and similar chipset, I think you will be able get away with it. Let's see how the OS deal with it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kagokyousuke @ Dec 2 2016, 09:35 AM)
In case I go with the C7, can I flip the fan & use it in pull config & use the psu as exhaust to pull out hot air from in the case? If no then have to go with noctua. Can save a bit for gpu.
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Nope, C7 fan is not "flippable" so pull config is not possible.

QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 2 2016, 09:51 AM)
sorry i'm not really familiar with the capability so it is out of my budget range then?
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1080p (Full HD) monitor is a better choice instead of 4K in this case, this is because if we take three 1080p monitors as example, you will get a combined 5760 x 1080p ultrawide triple screen setup already, and this is an insane resolution to drive, you will probably need at least two GTX1080/Titan X Pascal running at SLI configuration to make the most of out it.

Budget wise, yours is ok, 20K (max) is still a healthy budget for this "crazy" setup smile.gif
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QUOTE(XloveE @ Dec 2 2016, 01:44 PM)
What is the usage of the metal backplate?  hmm.gif
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Mostly aesthetic and better heat dissipation (just slightly).

Example of metal backplate on a GPU, it looks much nicer right? drool.gif

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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 2 2016, 01:58 PM)
Thanks. If possible can you please share how would you build this; i mean spec wise  sweat.gif
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Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1550
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura - RM 772
Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 618
Asus GTX1080 8GB GDDR5 Strix (x 2) - RM 6418
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 850 G2 - RM 659
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 561
Dell UltraSharp U2417H (x 3) - RM 2907

Total: RM 14005 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I haven't go into "all-in" mode yet, Dell U2417H is chosen mainly because of its super slim bezel which is good for Nvidia surround setup (triple monitors setup), the downside is slower response time (6ms) and 60Hz (still a standard anyway). As for GPU, GTX1080Ti is coming very soon and should be packing with Titan X Pascal's performance at much cheaper price tag than Titan X Pascal (est. RM 4500).
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QUOTE(XloveE @ Dec 2 2016, 02:33 PM)
I see, then ZOTAC 1060 AMP 6GB has no metalplate?  confused.gif
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According to Zotac website, yes it doesn't have backplate.

https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_c...060-amp-edition


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QUOTE(ne3ro @ Dec 2 2016, 03:09 PM)
Hi can someone please recommend parts to build my rig. Thanks

[Budget] 5k-8k

[Purpose] Motion Graphic, 3D  & Video Editing 4k

[Hardwares that will be re-use] NONE

[Monitor resolution] FullHD, prefer dual screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe AFter Effect, Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, Maya

[Personal preferences] Prefer dual screen 23" monitor. RAM 32GB AND something that can shorten the length of rendering/exporting process (currently using i7 2600 3.40GHz)

[Location] KL
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Budget range is a little bit "too huge", so I decided to go for 8k one.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1550
ASRock Z170 Extreme 6 - RM 720
Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (8GB x 4) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 1236
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 561
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass - RM 449
Dell S2316H - RM 1150

Total: RM 7864 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can reduce the total cost by going for non-overclockable CPU setup (can save up to RM 1000) and weaker GPU (mostly for CUDA hardware acceleration usage only).

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QUOTE(ne3ro @ Dec 2 2016, 04:09 PM)
I think im going for non overclockable CPU setup. can you please recommend me that. THank you
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
G.Skill Aegis 32GB (16GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 918
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass - RM 449
Dell S2316H - RM 1150 <this monitor is using glossy screen type, you will need to change to other model if you want matte screen type>

Total: RM 6560 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(kagokyousuke @ Dec 2 2016, 06:16 PM)
Hehehe. I was expecting that answer. So aio cooler it is. One more question, will any 120mm aio cooler fit? Since the h55 is recommended, I went and search my local store and found
enermax liqmax lm120s, id cooling frostflow 120l & asetek 550lc that looks familiar like corsair h50.
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If it is a standard 120mm radiator then it should fit just fine.

Asetek is the OEM for few Corsair AIO liquid cooler and H55 is one of them so they share almost the same appearance biggrin.gif

QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 2 2016, 07:50 PM)
Thank you. Will use this as guide

What about custom table to house the hardware with some fancy cooling system? Any idea where to get this in Malaysia?
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I have seen them in DotaTech (Ampang), Topmaid (Lowyat Plaza) and Lucro PC (Cyberjaya) before, need custom back-to-back order if I recall correctly, the price starts from 2k last time, probably not the same now since our currency is dropping non-stop since few weeks ago mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ Dec 2 2016, 11:43 PM)
Please recommend a gaming rig for me, didnt change cpu for 4 years already. Thanks

[Budget] 3k ?

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] No

[Monitor resolution] no need monitor

[Personal preferences] any brand, prefer nvidia

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 3125 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you want a new SSD, please top up your budget (or if you have HDD/SSD to re-use from your old PC, then you can remove the HDD from the build list and the total cost will be less than 3k).
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QUOTE(hakimftw @ Dec 3 2016, 06:15 PM)
Been using laptop for gaming almost 4 years. Please recommend a rig for me senpai

[Budget] ~ 2.5K

[Purpose] ~ Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] ~ None

[Monitor resolution] ~ 22"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ~ Dota 2, CSGO, BF4, Farcry, FIFA

[Personal preferences] ~ None

[Location] ~ Selangor / KL
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 497
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Gigabyte GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 - RM 699
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270 - RM 350
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2581 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ Dec 3 2016, 06:50 PM)
Thanks for the rig, can i use i5 6400 instead to save some ? actually is there big different with 6500 ?
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Yes you can, you can go for i5 6402P to save even more, i5 6400 and 6402P have lower core clock speed (2.7GHz and 2.8GHz) compared to i5 6500's 3.2GHz, a top up of RM 50+ grants you another 0.5GHz pump so the performance/price ratio is definitely there for us to pick it over the other i5 models.
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QUOTE(~_Ev0_Zer0_~ @ Dec 3 2016, 07:36 PM)
Please recommend me a rig for simple design, photoshop and some rendering jobs..

[Budget] RM 1500

[Purpose] simple design

[Personal preferences] any brand, AMD or Intel, do suggest both please.. tq
hdd maybe not needed, SSD 120gb is enough for me

[Location] Kedah/Perlis
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 497
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1433 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(surfingbirds @ Dec 4 2016, 05:02 AM)
Can anyone tell me how much would this rig cost me?

P/s I haven't got a monitor yet. Planning on getting a 4k uhd TV but input delay etc. Still considering.

I'm open for suggestions too.

MSI ARMOR GTX 1060 6gb
Intel i3 6100 @ 3.7ghz
MSI B150M Pro-VD Skylake
Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR4
EVGA 430w
WD Blue 1tb
windows 10
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Planning to run games on 4K UHD screen? If yes please get a better GPU like GTX1080, GTX1060 will crawl on 4K UHD resolution, upgrade the CPU to at least i5 too if possible.

The hardware above will cost you around 3k+/- (incl. Windows 10 Home OEM key).


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QUOTE(hakimftw @ Dec 4 2016, 11:59 PM)
Thanks boss, I was wondering is it ok if use Intel core i5 6400 and 4 GB D4 FURY 2400 RAM (2unit) for this rig. Is the PSU compatible?
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Yes you can (with top up of course smile.gif ), but you are strongly recommended to go for 8GB x 1 instead of 4GB x 2 for 8GB RAM because the mobo listed in the buidl list only got 2 RAM slots, meaning if you go 4GB x 2, you will have to sacrifice one of them if you want to add more RAM next time, or get a mobo with 4 RAM slots (this requires top up as well). And due to chipset limitation (H110/B150/H170/C232/C236), 2400MHz will be downclocked to 2133MHz automatically, so it is basically a value RAM speed but at a more expensive price tag.
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QUOTE(johnnyblaxxx @ Dec 5 2016, 10:29 AM)
Hello guys,

Appreciate if you guys can suggest me a rig with:

[Budget] ~ 5K

[Purpose] - Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - None

[Monitor resolution] - 27"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - Dark soul, CSGO, BF4, Farcry, FIFA

[Personal preferences] ~ Any
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 458
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
Acer R271 - RM 855
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 5090 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(hakimftw @ Dec 5 2016, 10:37 AM)
My friend recommend me to go for 4th gen (i5 4460) instead of i5 6400 since is based on Haswell platform. Which is better Haswell (i5 4460) or Skylake (i5 6400)?
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Haswell is long obsoleted and Skylake is the successor to 4th gen (Haswell) and 5th gen (Broadwell) Intel CPU, no doubt that i5 6400 will edge out the i5 4460 in most of the aspects. Although the core clock speed of i5 4460 is higher than i5 6400 but it just doesn't worth my money considering it is an aged 22nm CPU and only supports DDR3 RAM.

To pick 4th gen over 6th gen, you need a LGA1150 mobo, this is a bit hard to find now especially LGA1151 has become the main Intel CPU socket since one year ago. Haswell only supports DDR3 based RAM, so you will need to switch to DDR3 RAM if you go for this path, the price of DDR3 and DDR4 is almost identical, so spending money in obsoleted DDR3 just doesn't look worth to me at all.
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QUOTE(surfingbirds @ Dec 5 2016, 12:16 PM)
TQ T!
What about 1070?
Is there a way for me to get all the stuff online?
Without going to lowyat?

And also, I kinda wanna build another rig for my sis.
She's a casual gamer and mainly use pc for photo editing, mainly netflix lol etc.
Budget maybe around 2k? I'll be adding a 40" 4k uhd tv as a monitor.

Thanks again, T!
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GTX1070 yes, much faster than GTX1060, but still not fully qualified as a 4K UHD card yet (if you are ok with lower graphics settings then it will work fine).

Nowadays you can just shop online and get all the items delivered to your doorstep (delivery charges may apply).

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 498
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2065 (ETech price inclusive of GST)


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QUOTE(Tomtom. @ Dec 5 2016, 12:39 PM)
Can suggest me gaming rig for 3.5k to 4k? from idealtech because im from sarawak and he is the only one give free postage  : ) thanks
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I'll go for this.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Asus B150M-A/M.2 - RM 415
G.Skill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM - RM 249
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1329
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Sharkoon VG5-W - RM 199

Total: RM 3844 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

OS is not included (not sure if you need it or not).
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QUOTE(Heathen @ Dec 5 2016, 01:45 PM)
Hi all, can i have some suggestion on these?

[B][Budget] 2000-2400 (no need windows)

[Purpose] personal use, movie & gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] only keyboard and mouse

[Monitor resolution] 20" and above

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2, photoshop

[Personal preferences] can last for 3 years

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 498
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270 - RM 350

Total: RM 2415 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(johnnyblaxxx @ Dec 5 2016, 05:34 PM)
I forgot to tell you just rig without monitor. Planning to maximize the rig up to 5k and buy monitor seperately  rclxms.gif
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Alright I removed the monitor and upgraded the CPU to i7 and GPU to GTX1070, have to drop the RAM to 8GB for now.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1859
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Alpha - RM 229

Total: RM 5074 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Dec 5 2016, 08:05 PM)
hi all
its me again
i got my pc from suggestion here last time from a kind soul with PA avatar

now i need to help my friend

[B][Budget] 3000-3500 (no need windows)

[Purpose] personal use, movie & gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] only keyboard and mouse, monitor

[Monitor resolution] FULL HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] gaming, LOL, GTA5 etc

[Personal preferences] can i fit in GTX 1060 ? or is there a more cost effective solution ?

please advise guys, many thanks !
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Segotep Gank II - RM 179

Total: RM 3494 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(Heathen @ Dec 6 2016, 01:05 AM)
my concern is that will i3 sufficient for average usage of rendering in PS, AI or autocad etc? will you suggest me to top up to i5? is 450W sufficient to power the unit? heard fromf friends PSU is kinda important.

thanks in advanced
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You got no choice due to budget restriction, top up your budget to get i5 is always a good idea to get real quad core CPU experience. And 450W is enough to power up the components listed above, and again due to budget restriction, I wasn't able to include a better PSU (high quality one) but the PSU chosen in the build list will work just fine though.

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QUOTE(MP9090 @ Dec 6 2016, 02:11 AM)
[B][Budget] :1.5-2k (no need window)

[Purpose] gaming,

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor

[Monitor resolution] -

[Games & softwares that use frequently] photoshop

[Personal preferences] would prefer amd due to cheap price. (unless amd gt serious problem which prompted sifus not to recommend to me)

[Location] miri
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If you prefer AMD, please wait for their upcoming Zen CPU instead of spending your cash in those aged AMD CPU.

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 475
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2042 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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