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post Nov 28 2016, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(sengkin95 @ Nov 28 2016, 04:05 PM)
[Budget] RM8K

[Purpose] Gaming, music production and photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Speakers only

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080p (4K preferably)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop Lightroom and CS6, Civilization 6, Rome 2: Total War, Ableton Suite Live.

[Personal preferences] N/A

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 464
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1949
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 650 GQ - RM 459
Segotep K7 Tempered Glass - RM 379
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65
Dell P2715Q UHD - RM 2299

Total: RM 7980 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Of course there are few paths for you to choose with the amount of budget that you got, the most obvious one would be overclocking vs non overclocking, I decided to go for the latter path as overclocking doesn't really bring out the price/performance ratio, spending the money in other parts in return for a better specs and raw performance is more preferred (at least by me biggrin.gif ).

If you don't really care about the KB/mouse, then you can stick with cheap yet reliable Logitech combo, or else you gonna "downgrade" some of the parts to make way for a better KB/mouse. And about the monitor, you can choose to go with Acer Predator XB280HK (+ RM 200) if you want GSync technology (perfect to pair with GTX1070 or any compatible Nvidia GPU), please be noted that it is a TN panel though (compared to Dell's excellent IPS).
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QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Nov 29 2016, 12:50 PM)
Hi, would like to ask advice for building a gaming rig
[B][Budget]RM4.5k

[Purpose] Gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Mouse, keyboard & monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 & OverWatch. Would like to have a PC to last over 4 years.

[Personal preferences] Need to include Windows as well. Would like to have decent speaker with subwoofer

[Location] KL

Thanks! smile.gif
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Not sure which speaker is qualified as "decent" since I am a full headphone user sweat.gif

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 425
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1249
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass - RM 399
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 249
Edifier M1380 - RM 155

Total: RM 4488 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 30 2016, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 29 2016, 04:46 PM)
hehe Edifier confirm not decent lah bro... our headphones also RM500 and above liao tongue.gif
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Mine is just a cheap RM 200 headphone, sometimes I feel that it is too big for my comfort and I will use earphone as temporary "replacement" laugh.gif

QUOTE(yummy5566 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:28 AM)
evening, may i know if this build will work without any issue?

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Intel Core i7 6700
MSI B150M Pro-VDH
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5
FSP Hexa+ 550W
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD
CM SILENCIO 352
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo
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is it possible to get an monitor suggestion within this range? currently using AOCE2180SW, but ain't sure why am feeling dizzy all the time.

[RM300-RM400]
[24"]
[matt]
[Location] MLK

thank you.
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RM 400 cannot get you a 24" monitor, yet the cheapest one will cost you slightly more than RM 400, unless there is a promotion. Save more money and go for a better mid tier 24" monitor (RM 600+) instead to avoid same thing from happening again.
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QUOTE(fuzzly! @ Nov 30 2016, 09:03 AM)
Hi, please suggest me a RM5k rig including 27" monitor mainly for daily use and gaming. Thank you.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 478
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
Acer R271 IPS - RM 855

Total: RM 4995 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Alfsaw @ Nov 30 2016, 11:12 AM)
Greetings everyone. I have not been in touch with the Hardware scene for awhile now.

Currently looking forward to upgrading my current rig to match current gen (kindly refer to my siggy). Most of my hardware is circa 2011-2012.

Do let me know, what should I upgrade, should I just hold out for now and etc.

Playing games like the latest Tomb Raider, The Division, Rainbow Six Siege and etc (currently just running on Medium or so settings)

Budget for upgrades RM5,000.00 - RM6,000.00 (plus extra if really necessary)

Not a rush upgrade, I can wait for better items to come out and really open to suggestions.

Also interested in maybe a 1440p monitor, if budget permits.
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Your CPU is still pretty powerful, you can reuse if it is still working well, though the upgrade to Skylake i7 6700 (K or non-K) will only give you an extra of 30% performance boost, and that's when it is under full load (or in benchmark mode), your current i7 won't fall too far behind in normal usage pattern. Just overclock it to match the requirements of the latest titles if it is needed.

Basically what you "need" to upgrade (in my opinion) is just the GPU, RAM (to 16GB) and monitor (since you are interested in a 1440p monitor). If I were you, I will go for these items.

1. GTX1070 8GB (around RM 2000)
2. Grab another 8GB DDR3 RAM (around RM 250)
3. Get a 27" 1440p GSync capable monitor like Acer Predator XB271HU (around RM 3200)

Total cost will be around RM 5500+/-.
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QUOTE(Kookie10 @ Nov 30 2016, 12:34 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Currently i have this old desktop with the specs as below:
Processor: Intel i5 3470 3.2ghz
Motherboard: P8b75-M Lx
Graphic cards: GT630
Ram - 4GB
PSU - PoweRock Kx 420

Would it be wise for me to add on 4gb of RAM and changing the graphic card in order to support newer games better like Overwatch or maybe The Witcher 3 or would it be better for me the build a whole new PC from scratch?
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No need to build from scratch, your CPU is good enough to drive the latest GPU model.

Grab a new GPU (depends on your budget), another 4GB (or more if needed), a new PSU and you are good to go.
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:05 PM)
Budget : RM 2k
Purpose : dota 2 and auto Cadd
Require : full set with 23 inch monitor and a 128gb ssd without keyboard and mouse
Possible to make it?
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Do you need another 1TB HDD?
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:27 PM)
Ya need it, the budget still can rise some
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What's the max limit then?
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:33 PM)
Around rm 2200
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2.2k is still quite hard when 23" FHD monitor and 120GB SSD are a must.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 497
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Armageddon T1x - RM 95
BenQ GW2470H - RM 473

Total: RM 2112 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I decided to go with i3 instead of G4400 + low end dedicated GPU, i3 with onboard GPU will provide a slightly better performance in Dota 2 as well as AutoCAD, add a dedicated GPU later when you have more money.

QUOTE(Alfsaw @ Nov 30 2016, 02:53 PM)
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Thanks for the reply bro.  notworthy.gif

This PC is just a multimedia/Gaming rig, no rendering and etc. Will get another 8GB RAM as suggested.

Read an article about GTX1080TI coming out by January 2017. Wondering whether I should just wait for that beast instead.

That monitor maybe difficult to get, simply because I live in Kuching.  sweat.gif
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If your monitor is still a normal 1080p 60Hz panel then GTX1080Ti will be "heavily" bottlenecked, this is proven by its little brother GTX1070 and GTX1080 already, 1440p is the sweet spot for all these high end cards, the frame rates difference between 1080p and 1440p is pretty small across all the titles.

But yea if you have the budget and can wait then why not? laugh.gif But you might to need prepare at least 4k just for it, our currency is dropping like there is no tomorrow doh.gif

As for monitor, well you can always buy from West Malaysia and ship it to Kuching if you cannot find it locally, but I know the pain, you cannot see the item "physically" till it arrives at your doorstep or high shipping fees etc.
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QUOTE(Kookie10 @ Nov 30 2016, 04:20 PM)
Thanks for the fast reply bro. Assuming my budget is around RM1k for all 3 things, any specific suggestion you would give me?
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Something like this will work.

Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 129 <To ensure full compatibility with your current RAM, state your current RAM model if possible>
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189

Total: RM 1047 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 05:18 PM)
Bro this rig able to playing dota at full setting and do medium gaming? Since its only integrated gpu, if i put my budget to 2700, possible to build a i5 cpu with a gpu that able to play dota at max setting and medium gaming? Sorry for troubeling u
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Medium settings which hover around 50 FPS+/- with HD 530.

Just add a GPU like GTX1050 if you can increase budget to RM 2700, it cannot fit i5 + GTX1050 because upgrading from i3 to i5 will take around RM 300 (take i5 6400 as example) and you left RM 200 for nothing again sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 05:44 PM)
Haha maybe u just give the i5 cpu + a Gpu that able.to play dota at max setting, and auto cadd without problem, i put around rm 400 to gpu is that enough?
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CPU
1. i3 6098P (around RM 475)
2. i5 6402P (save money option, around RM 800)
3. i5 6400 (around RM 850)
4. i5 6500 (highly recommended, around RM 900)

GPU
1. GTX750Ti 2GB (save money option, less than RM 500)
2. GTX1050 2GB/RX460 2GB (around RM 550)

Max settings as in 1080p60.
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Nov 30 2016, 07:34 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 850
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Armageddon T1x - RM 95
BenQ GW2470H - RM 473
GTX 1050 2GB  - RM 600 ( which brand)?
Around RM 3000
With this spec able.to play latest game at medium setting without problem rite?
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CPU no problem, GPU might the holding back a little bit as it is still considered as a low end GPU, medium settings should be ok for latest titles if it is well optimized for low end card, you might want to drop to low settings to achieve a stable 60 FPS (1080p).

QUOTE(mental007 @ Nov 30 2016, 07:39 PM)
sorry might be an out-topic here... just asking can I mix different timings/capacity of RAM together?
For example,
Using Kingston DDR3L + Team Elite DDR3L or Kingston DDR3L + Corsair value DDR3L?

thanks.
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There is no guarantee it will work nor it will not work, some boards will tolerate it and automatically adjust the correct settings for you while some will just sit there and refuse to boot up, the safest option would be getting the similar RAM model to avoid all these incompatibility issue.

QUOTE(clement7621 @ Nov 30 2016, 07:53 PM)
Hey guys, my budget is at rm2500 only PC itself, is it possible to get i5 and gtx1050 ti? Thanks!
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Yes, it is possible.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 839
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Armageddon T1x - RM 95

Total: RM 2507 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Nov 30 2016, 09:17 PM)
Sorry out of topic, can I wrap my colorful cable with black electrical tape? Some of my wires arent fully black at the end of it. Example, corsair h100i usb cable (at the end of the cable it doesnt sleeved).
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As long as the tape doesn't conduct electricity then it should be fine, I did the same thing too last time for my old build.

QUOTE(charsiupau @ Nov 30 2016, 10:13 PM)
Hi guys, I need some advices on building a gaming rig with a suitable monitor (future proof for at least 5 years?)  icon_question.gif

Budget: RM3k to RM5k (I do not mind increasing the budget)

Purpose: Gaming purpose (Dota, Overwatch, hopefully any game in the future with high setting)

Hardwares that will be re-use: None. first pc

Monitor resolution: Not sure which one better: 1080p / 1440p

Personal preferences:
CPU - Heard that i5 would be sufficient as I do not do any video editing
GPU - nvidia gtx 1070/1080 (or is there better option? / brand suggestion)
Monitor - heard acer or benQ is quite good but no idea  rclxub.gif
Casing - Saw this nzxt s340. seem pretty affordable and good to me.
Overclock - most likely not as i have no experience.
Hopefully i can leave it on for days without shutting down (so im assuming i need a good cooling fan?  hmm.gif )

Open to any suggestion  notworthy.gif Sorry if my post seem weird  notworthy.gif

Location: Selangor (hopefully can suggest reliable seller as well  smile.gif )
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Hmm, not saying i5 is not enough for gaming, but some games do require the power of i7 (higher clock speed and HT) to run smoothly, for example, Watch_Dogs 2 (just released 2 days ago on PC platform), i7 edges out i5 and produces a more solid gaming experience (as in more stable FPS) if you roam a lot in city area, this is also true for other open world titles like GTA V.

Nevertheless, I will go with the basic i5 first as requested.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
GSKill 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 478
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1269
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 650 GQ - RM 459
NZXT S340 - RM 320
Acer R241Y FHD - RM 622
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 5018 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I picked GTX1060 over GTX1070/GTX1080 simply because it is more budget friendly and can run latest titles on FHD at almost max settings, if you can increase your budget then you can upgrade the card to other model. 1440p monitor is expensive, the cheapest one currently in our market (via official channel) is the newly launched ViewSonic VX3209-2K, priced at RM 1199.
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QUOTE(kagokyousuke @ Dec 1 2016, 10:19 AM)
Hello sifus. I need help with case, psu, cpu cooler, & gpu. Games that I play is Witcher 3 & Darks Souls 3.

Budget : No fix budget for gpu & RM1k for other parts.

Part that I will be using :
I7 3770k
Z77n-wifi
8gb HyperX ram 1866mhz
1TB Seagate HDD
240gb HyperX ssd
Generic wireless mouse & keyboard
Xbox 1 controller

Parts that I might consider buying :
Gpu : used 7970, used r9 280x, used r9 290 or newer cards like rx 470 or gtx 1060
Case : silverstone sg13 or raidmax element.
Psu :
Cpu cooler : 

As you can see I'm building an itx PC for living room gaming. I'm open to any recommendations for gpu, case, cpu cooler and psu.
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Since you own an i7-K CPU and Z77 mobo, do you plan to overclock it? If yes then I will include a decent CPU cooler.
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QUOTE(kagokyousuke @ Dec 1 2016, 01:00 PM)
Sorry about that. How can I leave something that important. Yes I'll be overclocking, probably around 4.5Ghz if can since my mobo don't have vcore adjustment.
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Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Corsair Hydro H55 - RM 291 <can invest in a more decent cooler if needed>
Silverstone SG13BQ - RM 235
EVGA 550W G2 - RM 459

Total: RM 2204 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Push-and-pull configuration is not compatible with this casing as it doesn't have enough space/clearance for it.

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QUOTE(afiqkuit @ Dec 1 2016, 02:00 PM)
Hi sifus, will normally  use it mainly for 3D rendering, video editing & a little bit of gaming ..
Please advise on below spec:

Intel I7 6700
Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming
HyperX Savage 16gb
Asus ROG STRIX GTX 1060
Samsung 750 Evo 120gb SSD
WD Blue Caviar 1TB
mainly use of software is :
AutoCAD, 3DMax, SketchUp, REVIT, PSD & Illustrator

*i'm not sure what to choose for PSU, casing & do i need water cooling or just the fan is sufficient enough
**sorry for the noob question, first time build
Thanks  smile.gif
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Please state an acceptable budget range if possible. And i7 6700 cannot be installed on a X99 mobo.

QUOTE(paupau22 @ Dec 1 2016, 03:35 PM)
Hi guys, I'm thinking of building a computer without the monitor for a budget of somewhere in between RM3000-3500. Initial budget was RM3000 but after going around town (Kuching, Sarawak) surveying the parts I found myself somewhere around RM3500 because I want something that looks cool also.

CPU: i5-6500 for RM858
MB: Asus H110M-D RM270
GPU: GTX1060 3GB RM1119
RAM: Hyper X 4GB x2 RM238
HDD: 1TB Blue RM218
Casing: NZXT S340 RM319
PSU: Acbel 600w Gold RM355
SSD: 120GB RM199

Is this okay or should I change some things?
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Please go for 8GB x 1 for the RAM instead of 4GB x 2 because the mobo you picked only comes with 2 RAM slots and you will need to sacrifice one of them when you want to upgrade next time.

GTX1060 3GB priced at RM 1119 is quite overpriced, full specs 6GB variant is very close to this pricing (for certain model).

Acbel 600W Gold is a semi modular PSU if I recall correctly and it is hard to find in Klang Valley area (East Malaysia might not be the same biggrin.gif ), other brands like Seasonic M12II/Superflower Leadex Silver/Gold will be a better choice.

QUOTE(fuzzly! @ Dec 1 2016, 04:10 PM)
Hi thanks for your suggestion and i will consider this, but suddenly im interested with an itx system with GTX1070 and ViewSonic VX3209-2K.  brows.gif

Is 8Gb ram too low?

And I can extend my budget maybe around 5.5k . Please advice.
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8GB is the standard memory value now for most of the rigs, if you multitask a lot (or lazy to do memory management) then 16GB is recommended, games nowadays take more than 4GB RAM which makes 64 bit OS as a must now, when your RAM usage is getting very close to 8GB (7GB for example), Windows will start to use pagefile as temporary RAM, pagefile is a reserved partition of your C drive, if your C drive is SSD then it is still ok (but still marginally slower than RAM), the games you play might start to slow down (FPS drop, assets slow to load) and so forth.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 906
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 348
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 239
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1859
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
CM Elite 130 - RM 178 <based on cheapest available ITX casing, CM Elite 110 is too small to fit GPU so I skipped it>
ViewSonic VX3209-2K - RM 1199

Total: RM 5658 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(XloveE @ Dec 1 2016, 04:46 PM)
How much will below cost right now as I got it from previous suggestion in this thread?

If I want to add 1 SSD for OS installation and the price would be? Or anything I need to improve?

Intel Core i5 6400
Gigabyte B150M-D3H
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM x2
PNY CS1311
WD Blue 1TB HDD
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W
Tecware Alpha Php2350
BenQ GW2470H
GTX1060 6GB GDDR5
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 839
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 478 <price is very close to Kingston/Corsair value RAM (add few bucks only) so I picked this since it has enclosure>
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1269
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203 <unable to find the stated PNY model so I replaced it with this>
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339 <distributor no longer restock M12II/S12II model anymore for now>
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
BenQ GW2470H - RM 473

Total: RM 4424 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(XloveE @ Dec 1 2016, 05:46 PM)
No ZOTAC 1060 AMP?  hmm.gif As it has 5 years warranty
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You can change it to Zotac AMP if you wish to do so, but it doesn't come with any metal backplate, if you are ok with this then the 5 years warranty definitely worth the exchange smile.gif
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QUOTE(afiqkuit @ Dec 1 2016, 07:09 PM)
Hi, if i7 6700 cannot be installed on X99, can i just changed to Z170X ?
or you have something better in mind ?

My budget is around 5-6k just for the cpu alone.
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i7 6700 can be installed on H110/B150/H170/Z170/C232/C236 chipset, X99 is for i7 Extreme Series CPU like 6850K and 6950X etc.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 478
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1319
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Alpha - RM 229

Total: RM 4860 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

This is a non-overclockable CPU setup, so you don't have to get any 3rd party air/water CPU cooler, Intel HSF (stock CPU cooler) is enough unless you want something quieter/cooler.

Since you have budget left, you can consider upgrading to a better GPU (presumably GTX1070) or get an overclockable CPU setup.

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