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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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post Aug 31 2016, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 02:09 PM)
Your current casing form factor is?

 
How many form factors are there? Definitely not the mini sized one..
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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Aug 31 2016, 03:49 PM)
How many form factors are there? Definitely not the mini sized one..
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3 mainstream - ATX, mATX, mITX
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 05:28 PM)
3 mainstream - ATX, mATX, mITX
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wow.. not familiar with that.. can u determine based on the current MOBO? the model is asus p7p55 lx.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 30 2016, 10:30 PM)
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 315
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1219
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 265
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 330
Silverstone SX500 500W - RM 412
Silverstone RVZ02 - RM 349

Total: RM 4469 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Hi there again.

For the GPU, is it possible to go one step lower? Cuz those I think those specs are a bit overkill if I don't do gaming.
For the SSD, I only need the minimum storage capacity, cuz I will only use it to boot my PC.
The Silverstone SX500 has to pair with the RVZ02 casing is it? If not, then got other cheaper PSUs you can recommend?

The rest is fine. Thank you!
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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Aug 31 2016, 05:56 PM)
wow.. not familiar with that.. can u determine based on the current MOBO? the model is asus p7p55 lx.
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Alright that's ATX.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 635
Corsair VS450 - RM 162

Total: RM 1688 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I've used a mATX mobo in the build list since your ATX case can fit all 3 form factors, it is more cost efficient since you mentioned prefer to stick with 1.5k biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 31 2016, 07:12 PM)
Hi there again.

For the GPU, is it possible to go one step lower? Cuz those I think those specs are a bit overkill if I don't do gaming.
For the SSD, I only need the minimum storage capacity, cuz I will only use it to boot my PC.
The Silverstone SX500 has to pair with the RVZ02 casing is it? If not, then got other cheaper PSUs you can recommend?

The rest is fine. Thank you!
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GPU: Yes of course you can, AutoCAD and SolidWorks do use GPU power as hardware accelerator so I was trying to max out your budget and see how far can it go. You can downgrade to the 3GB version (GTX1060, around RM 949) or swap to AMD RX470 4GB (around RM 949 too), or RX460 4GB (around RM 699). More VRAM = more modelling memory storage, thus fasten up the operation.

SSD: Yes you can change to 120GB, but the price between 120GB and 240GB is just RM 100 difference (might be lesser), 240GB is more worth and can store more stuffs (especially those huge assets/files which are known to be slower to load on HDD so SSD is the way to go).

PSU: RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, SFX is more preferred because it is smaller and you can have more space for better cable management. SFX and SFX-L PSU is more expensive than the standard ATX PSU.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 07:44 PM)
GPU: Yes of course you can, AutoCAD and SolidWorks do use GPU power as hardware accelerator so I was trying to max out your budget and see how far can it go. You can downgrade to the 3GB version (GTX1060, around RM 949) or swap to AMD RX470 4GB (around RM 949 too), or RX460 4GB (around RM 699). More VRAM = more modelling memory storage, thus fasten up the operation.

SSD: Yes you can change to 120GB, but the price between 120GB and 240GB is just RM 100 difference (might be lesser), 240GB is more worth and can store more stuffs (especially those huge assets/files which are known to be slower to load on HDD so SSD is the way to go).

PSU: RVZ02 requires SFX or SFX-L PSU, SFX is more preferred because it is smaller and you can have more space for better cable management. SFX and SFX-L PSU is more expensive than the standard ATX PSU.
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Thanks for the recommendations! I will review those few GPUs listed. By the way, that CUDA thingy is only available for GeForce GPUs right bero?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 07:36 PM)
Alright that's ATX.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 635
Corsair VS450 - RM 162

Total: RM 1688 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I've used a mATX mobo in the build list since your ATX case can fit all 3 form factors, it is more cost efficient since you mentioned prefer to stick with 1.5k  biggrin.gif
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hmm.. i m actually asking this on behalf of my friend, so his actual rig info i gotta dig more.. all i know is, he is currently on i3 and gtx650, so with your recommendation, isn't it roughly the same with just slight improvement?
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Aug 31 2016, 08:19 PM)
Thanks for the recommendations! I will review those few GPUs listed. By the way, that CUDA thingy is only available for GeForce GPUs right bero?
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Yup

QUOTE(- JaY - @ Aug 31 2016, 09:44 PM)
hmm.. i m actually asking this on behalf of my friend, so his actual rig info i gotta dig more.. all i know is, he is currently on i3 and gtx650, so with your recommendation, isn't it roughly the same with just slight improvement?
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That's 2nd gen i3 vs 6th gen i3, improvement is estimated to be around 30%.

And for GPU, GTX950 is around 50% faster than GTX650(Ti).

Your budget is limiting you (or your friend, whatever) from getting a better specs.

QUOTE(LiarLiar @ Aug 31 2016, 09:56 PM)
budget: RM 1399(PS4 price)
usage: gaming ( current-gen quality)
need: mini mobo(mATX or mITX)
note: excluding HDD & casing.
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Current gen quality? What settings you are aiming to play?

Don't expect 1.4k can build any decent PC gaming rig, mostly can fit a duo core G4400 and GTX750/750Ti only with this budget.
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QUOTE(LiarLiar @ Aug 31 2016, 11:06 PM)
current gen quality = ps4 default settings.
so, 'm better off buying a ps4 for gaming?
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Developers are able to access to console low level graphics API so performance is expected will be better than low end PC, the drawback of going for console path is that you cannot adjust the graphics settings (99% of the game, some allow though), locked 30 FPS, 900p sometimes and so forth.

If you plan or have the budget to upgrade the PC then I suggest you to get PC instead.

I don't own any console, so I am not sure about the exact price tag of current gen console, but I heard that you need to buy a pass to enable multiplayer content, I am not entirely sure on this though, please check it our yourself smile.gif
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QUOTE(LiarLiar @ Aug 31 2016, 11:06 PM)
current gen quality = ps4 default settings.
so, 'm better off buying a ps4 for gaming?
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I'm prefer pc gaming over console.

It cost much but only gpu upgrade are needed for the long run
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now only i know such thread exists biggrin.gif , Sentinel92 it's been a while man how've you been?

thinking of upgrading to skylake, i think my setup is due for an upgrade.

planning on getting a 6600k, but not sure what mobo to get, any recommendations?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 31 2016, 10:50 PM)
Yup
That's 2nd gen i3 vs 6th gen i3, improvement is estimated to be around 30%.

And for GPU, GTX950 is around 50% faster than GTX650(Ti).
i see.. if budget can be stretched to rm2k for a more "future proof" rig what is your recommendation? smile.gif
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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Sep 1 2016, 03:24 AM)
i see.. if budget can be stretched to rm2k for a more "future proof" rig what is your recommendation?  smile.gif
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If bump to 2k, you can either upgrade the i3 to i5 or GTX950 to something more decent only, if you can add in 200 more then you can upgrade both.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188

Total: RM 2215 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(najmul @ Sep 1 2016, 02:41 AM)
now only i know such thread exists  biggrin.gif , Sentinel92 it's been a while man how've you been?

thinking of upgrading to skylake, i think my setup is due for an upgrade.

planning on getting a 6600k, but not sure what mobo to get, any recommendations?
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Upgrading from 3rd gen i5? It is not worth IMO, the performance is gain is too small sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 08:51 AM)
If bump to 2k, you can either upgrade the i3 to i5 or GTX950 to something more decent only, if you can add in 200 more then you can upgrade both.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
PowerColor RX470 4GB GDDR5 Red Devil - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188

Total: RM 2215 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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alright will propose this to my friend. Thanks alot terence! had a lil of read up, the gtx950 seems to be on par or slightly inferior compared to my 3 years ago 7870XT , might ask him to opt for RX460-470 if budget permits as Nvidia's seems to be slightly pricier spec vs spec.

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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Sep 1 2016, 09:05 AM)
alright will propose this to my friend. Thanks alot terence! had a lil of read up, the gtx950 seems to be on par or slightly inferior compared to my 3 years ago 7870XT , might ask him to opt for RX460-470 if budget permits as Nvidia's seems to be slightly pricier spec vs spec.
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7870XT is on par/slightly faster than GTX950.

The cheapest or lowest end Nvidia Pascal lineup is GTX1060 3GB currently, packing the performance of GTX970 at price tag of RM 9xx.


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Hi, can someone recommend a decent monitor for a budget 500-800 ?

-1080p
-IPS maybe ?
-I'm not completely sure about which type of panel should I suggest to my friend

TQVM
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Sep 1 2016, 09:19 AM)
Hi, can someone recommend a decent monitor for a budget 500-800 ?

-1080p
-IPS maybe ?
-I'm not completely sure about which type of panel should I suggest to my friend

TQVM
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Acer R241Y biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 1 2016, 09:31 AM)
Acer R241Y  biggrin.gif
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in case, Acer brand is not sale at the store my friend will be going, any other brand to recommend ? hmm.gif



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