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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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post Oct 13 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(wolfster23 @ Oct 13 2016, 01:11 PM)
ok.. noob here .. i read online that the max graphic frequency was higher on the 6320 haha.. thanks for clarifying bro!
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That's only a minor 100MHz bump (turbo speed of HD530), since you are going to get a dedicated GPU later, save the money and get the 6100 biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(cyslock @ Oct 13 2016, 08:50 PM)
Hello sifus,

I got a rig in my mind to push my csgo skills further and study designing. I got my eye on a CM elite 110 as a smallest itx case on the market. I'm not into fancy eye candy rigs I like stable and minamalist type rig. Please help build and price please.

Here's the spec that preffer:
Cm Elite 110
Gtx 1060 mini 6gb
I7 non K
16gb ram
2tb hdd
250 gb ssd
Liq.cooler AIO 120mm ( or a stock fan is enough)
Psu i got no idea

Kindly please help me master sifus
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Price base on your listing.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1314
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 278
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 342
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1169
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 287
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 307
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 4194 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

But i7 + GTX1060 to "improve" CSGO skill is a bit overkill sweat.gif

QUOTE(kilazilla @ Oct 13 2016, 10:06 PM)
Thanks for the reply. If substituting i5 with a i3 anything else in the specs need to change ka?
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No.
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post Oct 14 2016, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(andykok @ Oct 14 2016, 11:14 AM)
is it sufficient to use 8gb ram for latest game ? If not sufficient, how shall i upgrade to 16gb? because i am using 2 sticks of 4gb ram. so can i just buy 1 more 8gb ram, and install into my desktop ?
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Depends on what games you play, some require > 8GB some don't.

Technically yes, you can swap the 4GB for 8GB, this will deactivate the dual channel mode but it is not a big deal since the speed difference is barely noticeable in real life usage.
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post Oct 16 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(shadow16 @ Oct 16 2016, 12:23 PM)
hi,i'm planning to build a new rig

[Budget] RM3000 , maybe can stretch to rm3300 (monitor included)

[Purpose] gaming,browsing,multimedia

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 24 inch 1080?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] new titles,previous year games

[Personal preferences] need usb wifi adapter,might consider getting speakers

[Location] PJ

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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 788
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 175
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 970
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
BenQ GW2470H - RM 499
TP-LINK TL-WN722N - RM 49

Total: RM 3363 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You can swap to GTX1060 3GB if you wish to do so. If you plan to get SSD together then you need to downgrade the i5 to i3 (or possibly GPU as well), but this is not worth considering SSD doesn't boost gaming performance in terms of frame rate other than just loading time, I will rather just add it later when I have more funds.

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QUOTE(10taywol10 @ Oct 16 2016, 09:41 PM)
I wouldn't recommend RX470 at RM970, worse with the rumor of price cut round the corner.

I personally got my Zotac 1060 mini (6GB) sub 1k with some patient and lengthy wait (camp for sales at online platform like Lazada/Gemfive). Even without sales, you can still easily find one at the moment for sub 1.1k, much much more worthwhile than a RX470 at RM9xx in my opinion.
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You are willing to play the waiting game, some don't. And price cut? Pray hard for distributors and AMD to follow that if it is true, AMD had jacked up the price of RX card so much, just don't put your hope too high on this.

And his budget is 3k initially and 3.3k max, 1.1k GTX1060? Yea sure it is a good deal but that would add have to add another RM 150+ "burden" to his wallet, if he can top up then surely it would be a better pick biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2016, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(10taywol10 @ Oct 17 2016, 12:58 AM)
I know the constraint is of course the budget.

But again, I don't really see the point of paying RM900+ for a RX470, even if its price cut not gonna be mirrored at our market anytime soon.

Why pay more when even 3GB GTX1060 is more powerful than it, yet at a cost cheaper than it.

Potential regret of getting RX470:
- Imminent drop in RRP, hence bad resale value and buyer remorse.
- Pretty bad performance/price ratio for a budget card, worse it is 70 series from AMD which always crowned performance/price ratio for series before this.

Potential regret of getting 3GB GTX1060:
- 3GB VRAM is a little limiting for the relatively huge performance it can offer and certain games in 2016 and upcoming.

Heck, I wouldn't even consider the extra 1GB VRAM of RX470 will make it much a different in "futureproof" than a 3GB card. Also worth mention is that the 1060 also having greater potential in overclocking than its rival.

If I am in his shoes, I will play the waiting game a little longer (at least till the launch of 1050TI) or just eat an extra month of maggi to push for 6GB GTX1060.

In short,
RX470 - bad choice
3GB GTX1060 - great but risky choice
6GB GTX1060 - great choice
GTX1050TI - potentially great choice
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Good analysis thumbup.gif

All of these can be a reference for him to build his rig biggrin.gif

QUOTE(travellingcircus @ Oct 17 2016, 05:22 AM)
Hello guys. What do you think about this assembly? First timer here. Building a rig that can last me for 2-3 years without major upgrades. Not that interested in overclocking hence the  non K CPU. GPU maybe. Using this for gaming at 1440p preferably with >30fps.

I am not too sure about the monitor, the cooler and the CPU though. Would it be enough using an i5 6600k and invest the extra money on some of the other parts?

Intel Core Skylake i7 6700 - RM1295

Coolermaster Hyper 412s 160mm - RM219

Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379

Gskills RipJawsV Black 2x8gb DDR4 2800mhz (CL16) - RM 499

Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8gb ddr5 - RM 1999

Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Phanteks Enthoo Pro - RM 435

Samsung 850 EVO 120gb SSD - RM 279

WD 1tb Caviar Black 7200 RPM - RM349

ASUS 27" MX27AQ 2560x1440/5ms/DP/HDMI/MHL/Audio @ 60hz - RM 2259

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - RM349
Total RM 8471

Trying to keep it below 9k
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The performance RAM @ 2800MHz will be downgraded to 2133MHz automatically because the mobo picked doesn't support RAM speed > 2133MHz.
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QUOTE(JusticeDeserves @ Oct 17 2016, 08:14 AM)
[Budget]
RM3000-RM3300

[Purpose]
Gaming, coding (virtual environment)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
MSI GTX 970
WD 4TB
Seasonic 600W
BenQ XL2411Z

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
CSGO, VirtualBox, Brackets, GitHub Atom

[Personal preferences]
6700k and preferably a Z170 mobo

[Location]
Subang
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Casing is not listed in the hardware to reuse list, so you need a new casing too?
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QUOTE(travellingcircus @ Oct 17 2016, 09:03 AM)
Any MOBO around 600-700 you'd recommend for this setup? Thanks.

And is the i7 necessary or will I be better to just pick the i5 6600k and spend the extra money on a good mobo
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Since you aren't going to get an overclockable setup, the i7 6700 will be a better pick than i5 6600K in this case.

You can consider these options if you want to stick with high speed RAM (between RM 600 - RM 700):
1. MSI Z170A Gaming Pro
2. Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI
3. Gigabyte Z170-HD3P
4. Asus Z170-K

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QUOTE(travellingcircus @ Oct 17 2016, 09:39 AM)
My revised setup. Is the Hydro H60 necessary for this setup?
Intel Core i7 6600 - RM1295

Corsair Hydro H60 - RM309

Gigabyte Z170x- Gaming 5 ATX - RM 879

Gskills RipJawsV Black 2x8gb DDR4 2800mhz (CL16) - RM 499

Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8gb ddr5 - RM 1999

Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Phanteks Enthoo Pro - RM 435

Samsung 850 EVO 120gb SSD - RM 279

WD 1tb Caviar Black 7200 RPM - RM349

ASUS 27" MX27AQ 2560x1440/5ms/DP/HDMI/MHL/Audio @ 60hz - RM 2259
Total: RM 8712
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Not necessary.

QUOTE(JusticeDeserves @ Oct 17 2016, 09:46 AM)
Yup
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I will go for this.

Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1472
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura - RM 749
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 418
Corsair Hydro H100i V2 - RM 508
Tecware Alpha - RM 219

Total: RM 3366 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(dk999 @ Oct 17 2016, 11:33 AM)
Hi I'm looking to get a 250gb ssd as boot/programme drive to speed up my rig.

What is the best bang for the buck SSD in the 250gb range?
Usually this will be the cheapest 250gb ssd or close to same price but with higher performance.
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Kingston SSDNow UV400 (~RM 280)

Samsung 750 EVO (~RM 300+)
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QUOTE(Sigint @ Oct 17 2016, 06:28 PM)
Need some recommendations from tech PC gurus here.

I'm planing to built my PC rig soon by early November. The primary usage of the rig will be heavy video editing, video rendering and video conversion (no Maya 3D stuff) just things like Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere Pro, Adobe Illustrator etc. and some occasional web surfing. Will be used for heavy multitasking video and visual based editing tasks not gaming or 3D rendering.

Budget is RM3.5K however I am willing to stretch the budget a bit more if absolutely necessary. My criteria are:

CPU: Skylake i7 processor

Mobo: Z170 chipset, preferably ASUS or MSI brand, at least one USB 3.1 or USB Type-C port

Memory: Minimum 12GB DDR4, any brand

Graphic: Any card as long it's competent for video editing tasks, preferably ASUS, MSI or Zotec brand

Storage: Any HDD, don't mind the size

Optical Drive: Not needed

PSU: Any decent PSU model that can support all of the above components

Case: Any casing, preferably with easy access to the case USB ports

Operating System: Not needed, already have a genuine Windows 10 license ready

Mouse, keyboard, monitor and speakers are not needed. Already have all of those.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1314
Asus Z170-K - RM 619
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 - RM 418
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 459
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware Alpha - RM 219

Total: RM 3443 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(aloy5415 @ Oct 17 2016, 07:37 PM)
Possible to build RM1000-RM1200 spec? No monitor or peripherals needed. Reason; to play Dota2. TQ
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Need a new rig recommendation or the used rig that you've PM'ed yesterday will do?

QUOTE(shadow16 @ Oct 18 2016, 01:46 PM)
thanks for the recommendation, i think i'll need top up some funds for the 6gb variant
any other monitor besides benq at this price range?  hmm.gif
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If you want to stick with 24" then another choice would be Acer K242HL.
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QUOTE(Koreyoshi @ Oct 18 2016, 02:46 PM)
Need some suggestion.
[Budget]500-1500

[Purpose]Looping single Full HD video non-stop on two monitor (DVI and HDMI)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]Nope

[Monitor resolution] Must support 1920x1080, 1 unit enough

[Games & softwares that use frequently] KMPlayer

[Personal preferences]Cheap but reliable

[Location]KL

If using SSD for videp playing will minimize it lifespan?
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SSD lifespan will decrease gradually overtime, but looping video doesn't require the use of SSD if you are low on budget, even a 4K video will still load fine on a 7,200 RPM HDD.

So you need a PC that can do this simple looping task and 1 FHD monitor?
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QUOTE(Koreyoshi @ Oct 18 2016, 03:13 PM)
yes  smile.gif
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What monitor size are you looking to get?
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QUOTE(Koreyoshi @ Oct 18 2016, 03:18 PM)
Don't care , as long as it is cheapest and support Full HD
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Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 225
ASRock B150M-HDV - RM 283
Corsair 4GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 96
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 185
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126
Armageddon T1x - RM 95
AOC E2180SWDN - RM 329

Total: RM 1339 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(KChoon @ Oct 18 2016, 09:20 PM)
[B][Budget] Rm 4600 (+100 if really really worth, no more than that)

[Purpose]Engineering software+gaming+movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] mouse+keyboard

[Monitor resolution] 24inch above (borderless would be nice)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] autocad/solidwork + Assasin creeds series, Battlefield 4, Overwatch, fallout 4

[Personal preferences] I wan to fit in a gtx 1070 if possible and at least i5 6500, SSD is a must. Powersupply , mobo and etc cheap and reliable as possible

[Location] kuala lumpur

Between a 980ti, 1060,1070. Are major performance difference for the games im playing?
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GTX1070 > GTX980Ti > GTX1060

GTX980Ti is pretty close to GTX1070's performance but I will vouch for GTX1070 due to its newer architecture and better DX12 support, as well as more VRAM. All of them are Nvidia cards so expect them to perform the same across all generation unless Nvidia gimps the older generation cards again via driver update sweat.gif

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 865
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 171
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1848
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 287
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
EVGA 500B - RM 259
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2470H - RM 473

Total: RM 4696 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(noloveishere @ Oct 18 2016, 09:32 PM)
Hello, need some advice from pros here. not looking for anything particularly strong because i mostly plan on doing a few things. My intention is just to play tf2 at native res, i will be running fps configs as well and dx8 but if my specs allow i will push to dx9. also will be looking to play skyrim and final fantasy 13-2 lul

[Budget] 1000

[Purpose] playing games mostly

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1080p. looking to get 120hz monitor in the future. currently have 1400x900 75hz  doh.gif

[Games & softwares that use frequently] tf2 and other light things that even potato can do

[Personal preferences] want to get some sort of ssd to start things up as i am even using <120gb of things in my hard drives right now. will buy some hard drive in the future after this rig

[Location] KL

i am not looking to upgrade a whole lot in the future so even apus can be considered but i heard that they just cost more in the long run and better to just get a cpu+gpu?
thanks for reading and any advice is appreciated smile.gif
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1k for whole rig? Hmm, that's a bit hard, even a 120GB SSD will take almost 20% of your available budget already sweat.gif

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 225
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Corsair 4GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 96
Pendrive Rapid X 120GB SSD - RM 149
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126
Armageddon T1x - RM 95

Total: RM 936 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

I suggest you to look for used item in Garage Sales instead because building a new rig from scratch is very costly right now and you will end up with just a "half-baked" barebone that couldn't yield the performance you are looking to get. APU is better if you are on a low budget and don't have the plan to upgrade in short time, CPU + GPU is opposite of that but you will have to suffer in the first few months without GPU, the iGPU of G4400 is just a HD510 which packs the performance of GT720/R5 230.

QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 18 2016, 10:51 PM)
Hi guys, don't know if this a right place to ask recommendations for upgrades. Right now I want to upgrade my SSD, monitor and add another hard disk. Current setup:-
H97 board
16gb HyperX ram
i5 proc
Intel 180gb SSD
2tb Western Digital Hard Disk black
650w Cooler Master PSU
Viewsonic 22inch monitor

So far I'm thinking to upgrade to Samsung Evo 850 240gb (replace current SSD). Monitor and hard disk I'm not sure which brand is good. Any suggestion? My budget is around 1.5k, hopefully the cheaper the better (as long best value for money)
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What makes you feel like want to do the upgrade? Especially the SSD and HDD, I rarely see people upgrade them unless it is faulty/broken, not enough storage space, or upgrade to a completely different technology (like SATA to PCIe). Your HDD is a 2TB WD Black, that's the top tier consumer grade HDD that you can get it locally already, I don't know why you want to get rid of it sweat.gif

As for monitor, different people is having different personal preferences, you might want to list out some of your requirements, like screen size, resolution, refresh rate, design etc to scale down the total choices.
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 19 2016, 10:46 AM)
Well, that's the thing. Both my SSD and HDD are almost full, both are already on >90% usage hence the reason why I want to upgrade my SSD and buy another HDD tongue.gif I think that 240gb SSD should be a good replacement for my 120gb SSD, as SSD is still expensive.

My main usage for the HDD is watching movies and play games; others not much. Thinking of buying another black WD, but maybe could find other suggestions here.

For monitor, Prefer to have low response rate as I'm playing games. Right now using TN panel, but if can upgrade to IPS with similar response rate would be nice as well. Size is around 22" to 24", more than that I feel like it's a bit too large for my liking (and space as well).
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Oh so it was storage issue. What's your mobo model? If it supports M.2 NVMe SSD then Intel 600P is a good choice, 256GB only costs RM 450+, around the same price of SATA based 850 EVO but with a much faster transfer speed.

HDD wise, well I will just grab any 7200 RPM HDD in the market, WD Black is a little overpriced to me, I will just get WD Blue (for 1TB) or Seagate Barracuda (1TB - 4TB), other choices like Hitachi can be considered too.

IPS never had a low response rate, the lowest it can go so far is 4ms, but it is hard to notice the difference with our naked eyes (1ms vs 4ms).

Acer R241Y (4ms)
Dell U2414H (6ms), U2417H (6ms), S2316H (6ms), S2415H (6ms)
AOC i2369VM (5ms), i2476VWM (5ms), i2481FXH (5ms)

All monitors listed above are 1080p 60Hz IPS.
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Oct 19 2016, 02:18 PM)
Hello, Need some suggestion for my friend. Budget somewhere around RM1.5k-1.7k. mostly will dota 2.
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Rig only?

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 225
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 171
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1629 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(noloveishere @ Oct 19 2016, 04:00 PM)
Well what if I swap out the SSD with a HDD? 500gb is fine for the starting if it means a better upgrade potential. Also, if I just run with an APU, what would you recommend as well? Do list both HDD and SSD options if you could. Thanks a bunch! notworthy.gif
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500GB HDD costs more than a 120GB SSD nowadays, new 500GB HDD is around RM 185+, by adding RM 20+, you could get a 1TB, the value of 500GB is totally not worth sweat.gif

Well I checked the APU list, none of them suit your budget, low end APU is using R5 GPU which isn't far ahead of the HD510 only.
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QUOTE(wulimaza @ Oct 20 2016, 12:02 AM)
Hi Terence

Intel Kaby lake/ AMD ZEN is coming around the corner, is it worth waiting? does it make huge different between the current generation? tq
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If you can wait then it is always worth the wait, just look at Haswell Refresh and Skylake CPU, the price is almost identical (within few bucks difference only), but Skylake packs more performance than Haswell (10% - 15% in average) sweat.gif

Some people might not care about the generation and performance, they will just grab whatever the market is offering, but some people prefer to play the waiting game and board the latest tech train ASAP when it reaches them, so it is really up to your personal decision whether to wait or not, if you are in need of a new PC then you can just get Skylake for now because next gen desktop CPU is only scheduled to arrive in Jan 2017 (according to many sources).

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