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terence_nwb
post Nov 26 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Nov 26 2016, 07:32 AM)
Thx for suggestion  notworthy.gif

I have few question in my mind.

1) Compare your suggest mobo with MSI B150M Pro-VDH which one better? In term of future proof & Upgraded?
2) How about change the GPU with Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming? I like the rgb lighting  wub.gif
3) Change the RAM to Avexir Core Series ddr4 8Gb 2400mhz led?
4) Its PSU more then enough?  hmm.gif  Maybe change to 600w?
5) Compare Segotep Gank II with Techware F3 which one better? But i like techware design more  rclxub.gif

Sorry too many question since this is my first time build pc & sory for my bad english  sweat.gif

p/s: I dont mind to increase abit to 3.5k if its more worth  nod.gif
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1. Both mobo are running a similar chipset (B150), so please expect the features offered by each of them will be almost the same apart from few extra I/O ports from the more expensive one. MSI B150M Pro-VDH comes with 4 RAM slots (vs 2 on ASRock), 1 SATAe port (not really that important and useful nowadays), USB 3.1 (vs 3.0 on ASRock, but 3.1 adoption rate is pretty low currently) and so on. NVMe M.2 SSD is not supported by both of them, if you plan to get a speedy next gen NVMe M.2 SSD then you might need to consider other mobo (this will increase the total cost needed but more future proof).

2. Yes you can do so but you need to top up for it.

3. Yes you can do so too but the RAM speed will be downclocked to 2133MHz automatically due to the nature of B150 chipset, only Z170 can support RAM speed > 2133MHz.

4. 550W is more than enough, power consumption of the new hardware is getting lower and lower now.

5. Tecware F3 is a mATX casing whereas Segotep Gank II is a ATX casing, if you don't plan to reuse the casing for future mobo upgrade (to ATX mobo) then F3 is fine.
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post Nov 26 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 26 2016, 08:58 AM)
1. Both mobo are running a similar chipset (B150), so please expect the features offered by each of them will be almost the same apart from few extra I/O ports from the more expensive one. MSI B150M Pro-VDH comes with 4 RAM slots (vs 2 on ASRock), 1 SATAe port (not really that important and useful nowadays), USB 3.1 (vs 3.0 on ASRock, but 3.1 adoption rate is pretty low currently) and so on. NVMe M.2 SSD is not supported by both of them, if you plan to get a speedy next gen NVMe M.2 SSD then you might need to consider other mobo (this will increase the total cost needed but more future proof).

2. Yes you can do so but you need to top up for it.

3. Yes you can do so too but the RAM speed will be downclocked to 2133MHz automatically due to the nature of B150 chipset, only Z170 can support RAM speed > 2133MHz.

4. 550W is more than enough, power consumption of the new hardware is getting lower and lower now.

5. Tecware F3 is a mATX casing whereas Segotep Gank II is a ATX casing, if you don't plan to reuse the casing for future mobo upgrade (to ATX mobo) then F3 is fine.
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post Nov 26 2016, 06:54 PM

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Hello! Im planning to build mini itx gaming rig soon so i will need few examples from senpais here. My budget is 3k max. thanks! biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2016, 09:49 AM

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Thx terence_nwb for your suggestion. Already bought the rig yesterday from Etech. I go for 1060 Extreme Gaming since G1 Gaming 6G already out of stock..but i got discount for that gpu since its last unit laugh.gif. I think the gpu will overkill my current monitor since it max support 1600*900 only (Samsung S20B300B) sweat.gif .
I think i need to buy 1080p monitor to unleash the gpu potential. I cant decide between this two model BENQ GW2270H or Acer G227HQL. What im worried right now if i go for benq its ok for gaming since its use VA panel. What i got from internet many said not recomended VA panel for gaming since it got ghosting issue sweat.gif. .Can suggest me any monitor that good under RM450?

p/s: Sorry since my question is out of topic sweat.gif

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post Nov 27 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Nov 27 2016, 09:49 AM)
Thx terence_nwb for your suggestion. Already bought the rig yesterday from Etech. I  go for 1060 Extreme Gaming since G1 Gaming 6G already out of stock..but i got discount for that gpu since its last unit  laugh.gif. I think the gpu will overkill my current monitor since it max support 1600*900 only (Samsung S20B300B)  sweat.gif .
I think i need to buy 1080p monitor to unleash the gpu potential. I cant decide between this two model BENQ  GW2270H or Acer G227HQL. What im worried right now if i go for benq its ok for gaming since its use VA panel. What i got from internet many said not recomended VA panel for gaming since it  got ghosting issue  sweat.gif. .Can suggest me any monitor that good under RM450?

p/s: Sorry since my question is out of topic  sweat.gif
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i doubt u will actually find any different in terms of gaming for both monitor. my friends use the Acer one and i think it looks great but the monitor is glossy and some people dont really like that.

aesthetically the Acer looks better too since it have that bezzless design.
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post Nov 27 2016, 02:30 PM

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hi guys.. 2k budget gaming rig include casing..

no need hdd or ssd..

thx.
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(roshede @ Nov 26 2016, 06:54 PM)
Hello! Im planning to build mini itx gaming rig soon so i will need few examples from senpais here. My budget is 3k max. thanks! biggrin.gif
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If only rig is needed then you should be able to fit an i5 + GTX1060 3GB. Something like this will work:

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 767
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 278
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 2837 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you don't mind adding some money on top of your available budget then you can consider upgrading the GTX1060 3GB to full specs 6GB model, same goes to SSD.

QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Nov 27 2016, 09:49 AM)
Thx terence_nwb for your suggestion. Already bought the rig yesterday from Etech. I  go for 1060 Extreme Gaming since G1 Gaming 6G already out of stock..but i got discount for that gpu since its last unit  laugh.gif. I think the gpu will overkill my current monitor since it max support 1600*900 only (Samsung S20B300B)  sweat.gif .
I think i need to buy 1080p monitor to unleash the gpu potential. I cant decide between this two model BENQ  GW2270H or Acer G227HQL. What im worried right now if i go for benq its ok for gaming since its use VA panel. What i got from internet many said not recomended VA panel for gaming since it  got ghosting issue  sweat.gif. .Can suggest me any monitor that good under RM450?

p/s: Sorry since my question is out of topic  sweat.gif
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VA and IPS, both are having almost similar response time (4ms for Acer's IPS and 5ms for BenQ's VA), I doubt you will see any difference. RM 450 can mostly get entry level 1080p 60Hz monitor, TN panel will be the best option if you want lowest response time among all the panels type available.

QUOTE(radiohear91 @ Nov 27 2016, 02:30 PM)
hi guys.. 2k budget gaming rig include casing..

no need hdd or ssd..

thx.
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 497
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Segotep Gank II - RM 179

Total: RM 2044 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:57 PM

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hi guys. my friend need help to build his rig.

[Budget] MYR4000

[Purpose] Gaming and working

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CS-GO, maybe Battlefield 1 Beta


[Personal preferences] Nice looking casing with window

He doesnt have any gaming Rig before. So the budget is only for a complete rig.

Thank you.
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post Nov 27 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Nov 27 2016, 02:12 PM)
i doubt u will actually find any different in terms of gaming for both monitor. my friends use the Acer one and i think it looks great but the monitor is glossy and some people dont really like that.

aesthetically the Acer looks better too since it have that bezzless design.
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Oic..the Acer one is old model and but i kinda like it lol..i see many comment that VA panel will have ghost effect..currently i'm on hold to buy Benq becoz of that sweat.gif

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 27 2016, 03:41 PM)

VA and IPS, both are having almost similar response time (4ms for Acer's IPS and 5ms for BenQ's VA), I doubt you will see any difference. RM 450 can mostly get entry level 1080p 60Hz monitor, TN panel will be the best option if you want lowest response time among all the panels type available.
Oic thx..how about ghosting effect in VA panel? They already solve the issue? hmm.gif

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Hi all, will use it mainly for FB, Full HD movie, heavy browsing .. Please advise on below spec:

– Intel Core i5-6500 = RM850 @ Ideal Tech
– ASRock B150M-ITX = RM364 @ DotaTech IT
– Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
– Aerocool KCAS 500W 80+ Bronze = RM186 @ Castle IT
– CM Elite 130
– Got Onboard Graphics? Good enough?
– Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue = RM196 @ ITCOM
- Full HD >20" Dell /HP LCD

Budget <3k

Should I change to a cheaper Processor and get a better graphic card?

Please comment
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post Nov 27 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(aladibfahmi @ Nov 27 2016, 03:57 PM)
hi guys. my friend need help to build his rig.

[Budget] MYR4000

[Purpose] Gaming and working

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CS-GO, maybe Battlefield 1 Beta
[Personal preferences] Nice looking casing with window

He doesnt have any gaming Rig before. So the budget is only for a complete rig.

Thank you.
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BF1 beta? That's already over and the full game was released last month biggrin.gif

Intel Core i 5 6500 - RM 906
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 232
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1219
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
BenQ GW2470HM - RM 489
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 3912 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

SSD is not included, your friend can either top up his/her budget to get it or downgrade the monitor to a cheaper 21.5" panel to fit it.

QUOTE(Farlz_89 @ Nov 27 2016, 05:23 PM)
Oic..the Acer one is old model and but i kinda like it lol..i see many comment that VA panel will have ghost effect..currently i'm on hold to buy Benq becoz of that  sweat.gif
Oic thx..how about ghosting effect in VA panel? They already solve the issue?  hmm.gif
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Where did you see the ghosting issue on VA panel? So far I haven't heard back any ghosting issue from the users here on their purchase of VA monitor though.
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post Nov 27 2016, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(endG @ Nov 27 2016, 10:55 PM)
Hi all, will use it mainly for FB, Full HD movie, heavy browsing .. Please advise on below spec:

– Intel Core i5-6500 = RM850 @ Ideal Tech
– ASRock B150M-ITX = RM364 @ DotaTech IT
– Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
– Aerocool KCAS 500W 80+ Bronze = RM186 @ Castle IT
– CM Elite 130
– Got Onboard Graphics? Good enough?
– Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue = RM196 @ ITCOM
- Full HD >20" Dell /HP LCD

Budget <3k

Should I change to a cheaper Processor and get a better graphic card?

Please comment
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Since no gaming is involved, onboard GPU is enough.

The CPU (i5 6500) price has increased, it is now RM 905 according to Idealtech pricelist sweat.gif
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post Nov 28 2016, 04:05 PM

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[Budget] RM8K

[Purpose] Gaming, music production and photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Speakers only

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080p (4K preferably)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop Lightroom and CS6, Civilization 6, Rome 2: Total War, Ableton Suite Live.

[Personal preferences] N/A

[Location] KL
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QUOTE(sengkin95 @ Nov 28 2016, 04:05 PM)
[Budget] RM8K

[Purpose] Gaming, music production and photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Speakers only

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080p (4K preferably)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop Lightroom and CS6, Civilization 6, Rome 2: Total War, Ableton Suite Live.

[Personal preferences] N/A

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 464
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1949
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
EVGA Supernova 650 GQ - RM 459
Segotep K7 Tempered Glass - RM 379
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65
Dell P2715Q UHD - RM 2299

Total: RM 7980 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Of course there are few paths for you to choose with the amount of budget that you got, the most obvious one would be overclocking vs non overclocking, I decided to go for the latter path as overclocking doesn't really bring out the price/performance ratio, spending the money in other parts in return for a better specs and raw performance is more preferred (at least by me biggrin.gif ).

If you don't really care about the KB/mouse, then you can stick with cheap yet reliable Logitech combo, or else you gonna "downgrade" some of the parts to make way for a better KB/mouse. And about the monitor, you can choose to go with Acer Predator XB280HK (+ RM 200) if you want GSync technology (perfect to pair with GTX1070 or any compatible Nvidia GPU), please be noted that it is a TN panel though (compared to Dell's excellent IPS).
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Hi, would like to ask advice for building a gaming rig
[B][Budget]RM4.5k

[Purpose] Gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Mouse, keyboard & monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 & OverWatch. Would like to have a PC to last over 4 years.

[Personal preferences] Need to include Windows as well. Would like to have decent speaker with subwoofer

[Location] KL

Thanks! smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(crazydjrock @ Nov 29 2016, 12:50 PM)
Hi, would like to ask advice for building a gaming rig
[B][Budget]RM4.5k

[Purpose] Gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Mouse, keyboard & monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 & OverWatch. Would like to have a PC to last over 4 years.

[Personal preferences] Need to include Windows as well. Would like to have decent speaker with subwoofer

[Location] KL

Thanks! smile.gif
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Not sure which speaker is qualified as "decent" since I am a full headphone user sweat.gif

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 425
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1249
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass - RM 399
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 249
Edifier M1380 - RM 155

Total: RM 4488 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 29 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 29 2016, 04:40 PM)
Not sure which speaker is qualified as "decent" since I am a full headphone user  sweat.gif

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 425
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1249
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass - RM 399
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 249
Edifier M1380 - RM 155

Total: RM 4488 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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hehe Edifier confirm not decent lah bro... our headphones also RM500 and above liao tongue.gif
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evening, may i know if this build will work without any issue?

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Intel Core i7 6700
MSI B150M Pro-VDH
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5
FSP Hexa+ 550W
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD
CM SILENCIO 352
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo
//----------------------------------------------//


is it possible to get an monitor suggestion within this range? currently using AOCE2180SW, but ain't sure why am feeling dizzy all the time.

[RM300-RM400]
[24"]
[matt]
[Location] MLK

thank you.
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QUOTE(yummy5566 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:28 AM)

is it possible to get an monitor suggestion within this range? currently using AOCE2180SW, but ain't sure why am feeling dizzy all the time.

[RM300-RM400]
[24"]
[matt]
[Location] MLK

thank you.
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RM300-400 for a 24" screen is a budget screen most probably get a basic TN panel with no features.

look for a flicker free monitor if you feel dizzy.

BenQ EW2440
i currently using this model, matt, flicker free, blue screen filter, va panel for best contrasts (good viewing angle too) all the specs that makes good reading monitor

http://www.lazada.com.my/benq-ew2440zh-238...ck-8888865.html

shipping is expensive, wait for 12.12 or Christmas sale for cheaper.
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post Nov 30 2016, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 29 2016, 04:46 PM)
hehe Edifier confirm not decent lah bro... our headphones also RM500 and above liao tongue.gif
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Mine is just a cheap RM 200 headphone, sometimes I feel that it is too big for my comfort and I will use earphone as temporary "replacement" laugh.gif

QUOTE(yummy5566 @ Nov 30 2016, 02:28 AM)
evening, may i know if this build will work without any issue?

//----------------------------------------------//
Intel Core i7 6700
MSI B150M Pro-VDH
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5
FSP Hexa+ 550W
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD
CM SILENCIO 352
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo
//----------------------------------------------//
is it possible to get an monitor suggestion within this range? currently using AOCE2180SW, but ain't sure why am feeling dizzy all the time.

[RM300-RM400]
[24"]
[matt]
[Location] MLK

thank you.
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RM 400 cannot get you a 24" monitor, yet the cheapest one will cost you slightly more than RM 400, unless there is a promotion. Save more money and go for a better mid tier 24" monitor (RM 600+) instead to avoid same thing from happening again.

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