80k worth of a car called it soft toy? then iswara is paper toy? kancil is jelly toy? haha lol..

not everyone can afford euroNCAP 5-star car ler.
cakap pan-nai la..
toyota purposely make it lighter cos to reduce FC mar.

city cheaper than vios mer???

This post has been edited by shift2: Jan 23 2007, 09:46 PM

I think that guy post here purposely wanna get flame lo.

Where in the world you think spending 80k is consider cheap toy..SAVVY also got those german awards for being some tough nut also less than 80k ler.

from wat i know...the weight of myvi is almost same like vios...

Will the middle placement of instrument panel give us "mata ayam"? hehe...

This post has been edited by chooikw: Jan 24 2007, 12:49 AM

Yeah agreed. We don't buy Myvis or Citys or Vioses becos we really love them (regardless of how often you hear owners saying "I love my Myvi"), it's becos we consider them the best car for our budget.

Mr liewseng, if someone has RM200K car budget and he buys a Myvi, then you can bash.

No, he doesnt have the right to bash anyone if he/she is a billionaire and satisfied to commute around even with a "kap chai" bike around. It's his money and his own right, who are we to judge on how ppl spend their money? Since our threadstarter here already mention Vios as a basic guideline for us to discuss, then stick to it and give reasonable comment or recommendation on other cars that still cost the same.

This post has been edited by Gouki: Jan 24 2007, 10:13 AM

He deserves it...he thinks everyone is as rich as him; wanna buy car must spend 100k above. Seriously its absurd

lol, we going OT liao from the topic


lol brader, we going OT liao


woah, brother travis, you really take his post, sit down and meditate until you get the meaning ar?


that fella is a noob la.... ignore jer...
he will go away...

well said gouki. its our/your money, you can buy whatever car or bikes as you wish. we just give our views only but at the end of the day, you will decide.


ask him to get for me Ferarri Enzo and i want the FC of the Enzo to be 0.01 cents per km

all the start will just use money to paid......
y i say this is soft toy...bcos i friend drive vios was hit by wira.....then the car damage a lot and the wira just brumper and the head lamp damage....
this is wat i say "soft toy".

the price for the car performance, interior, and stable is not match....

Duh, if say a kancil/iswara has similiar damage, u call that a soft toy as well?

The vios car perfomance is adequent and economical, but i agree that the interior is something less to be desired. On the price coz u stay in Bolehland where car taxes were ridiculous there nothing u can do.

Maybe the waja might suit u but dono will u get satisfied or not,or could be yet another "fisher price" car for u

then i ask u how much for a kancil ? how much for a iswara ?
if really got money y not really looking for better...
maybe from the start i did not say clearly....sorry from here..
my budget start from RM100k sure will not up to RM199k lah.( I also a very poor guy)
but within RM120k u can buy many good car...like ford focus, honda civic, mazda 3 and so many....
myself also got myvi....but i did not complain for the myvi.... i love this car so much...
y i i dun like the car like city, jazz and vios bcos of the car value is not match for the money that we pay....
that all i wan to say....

Ah, i really have to read it and comprehend the chinese educated way in your writing. Nvm. You have my respect for not giving up easily.

You see, your friend's Vios damage is very subjective. Where did the Wira hit the Vios? Side of Vios? And normally the car that take the hit receive more damage/impact due to energy transfer. So are you trying to say the Wira is stronger than the Vios? It could be the same if the car that being hit is a Civic/Altis/Camry/Accord.

I owned a Wira before and i have to say its very fragile car. The Vios is far more stronger as a "soft toy" than the Wira.

Price for the car performance, interior and stable does not match? In what way? What make you think the bigger car like Altis/Sentra/Civic match it's price then? Cheers.

You still dont get it dont you? RM80k+ for a City/Vios/Swift and etc compare to RM120k is not a big difference?
Your myvi also doesnt match the price you are paying for what. For the same price i would go for a Satria Neo which is more powerful and better handling and looks way better. Can you compare that way? I dont like myvi. I think it's ugly. Sorry to say. It's my personal view. But i have to admit it's a practical car.

So your saying that Myvi is suitable for range of RM40k?
And city,jazz and vios doesn't belong in the range of 80-100k?

In terms of performance wise, those mid-range cars can tapao myvi anytime.

so sorry for my english.....i like to speak in "chinese" english...even i can typr chinese inside....just some of the banana dunno chinese....but i respect to the forum..

the car crash that i mention sure is wira front hit the vios backside...

did u try before for the altis/sentra/civic....goto do the test drive at the same time with the vios and altis, city and civic...then u will know... no need me to say so much...bcos i not a car salesman....

Excuse me, for being "stupid". My wife drives a CITY and my Mom drives a VIOS.
Both cars also fell under your "stupid" category. Are you also implying that people who drives/own those "stupid" cars are "stupid"? If yes, then problably you should stay off the road because plenty of "stupid" people are driving "stupid" cars in a "stupid" way.

What do you mean by save more money to buy civic, mazda 3 or some other "smart" cars? When you save up enough money to buy civic or mazda 3, would you then also suggest them to save up more money to buy accord or mazda 6? By then you would also probably come up with a new category of "stupid" cars?

You can't really compare civic, mazda 3 with jazz/city/vios. It is totally in a different category and pricing all together. Everybody loves a "smart" car but what is our affordability level? If you are born with a silver spoon, then of course those "smart" cars are made available to you easily...

As in regard to the "soft toy", there is a lot factor we have to take into account to ascertain a car is a "soft toy". For instance, what was the travelling speed of the "soft toy" and wira just before the accident?

Information for the threadstarter, VIOS is a good car, it is even better if that is your very first car despite falling into the "stupid" category.

if it is a frontal and rear crash then both cars are hitting the crumple zone!!! so the worse the crash looks the higher survival rate u have got...

and one more thing liewseng, try to compare cars in the price range, say 80-95K, not civic or altis!!! the threadstater alredy had stated his intended price range and if u think this car is stupid! then i think u have not driven that many cars b4. some of us cannot afford cars in that range, so dont flame or criticise those cars. at least its hard earned money that bought it

talking about the vios.... its a great car, quite good quality, but not the best value for money in the price range in my opinion... i think its the swift that is the best in the range... just my 2C

This post has been edited by pacer: Jan 24 2007, 01:23 PM

Sometimes the crash very hard to say because lets say the wira is lowered...and the vios behind is high then the dmg would be different now wouldn't it...

sure or not for the vios and city can easy tapao myvi ?
jazz i know is hard for myvi.. everytime just got smoked..
if i put more 5k for the myvi performance...then vios? city ? jazz ?
nothng to say....
if i rude....here to say sorry for all the forumer....

Do you get what i mean? I have driven most of the cars in that price range before. But the price of RM20k difference is a lot.