aren't the attackers that emerged from the woods at the end the hosts from the cold storage? At least that's my assumption. It could be just the native tribe host from previous episodes but its too many of them to just be those tribal hosts

Yep. Even Clementine v1 is there, she was the one who shot Man in Black.

right, there you have it, she's holding a sweet Lincoln's Repeater (lever action rifle if you did not played a game named Fallout 3) while shooting at William (well, Billy if you want to piss him off lulz)

Didn't see clearly it was Clementine V1 shooting, kinda dark and I was very sleepy at that time

season 1 is defined by CONTROL

season 2 will be defined as CHAOS

Yeah, just speculating here.
For all I know, Ford realized Arnold's mistake and corrected it. All this time, it's still never shown what Ford's intentions are. We've been led to believe he's against Arnold creating AI, that Arnold's death changed something in him. But that is a devious misdirection, the twist in the finale. We still don't know what he wants. I don't buy that he's satisfied his life's work after perfecting Arnold's mistakes. That's Arnold's work, not him.

Yes. Popular theory is the Maeve plot was just a distraction to unleash the cold storage bunch undetected.

almost forgot about this pic, the man in the middle, they said he should be Ford's father, maybe it's a gift created by Arnold to Ford
Ford doesn't seem so happy about it, why would you create someone you don't like, especially your drunken father?

or he's a real human in that pic, but a mentor to both Ford & Arnold?
somehow he's related to the whole plot

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Errr!!!....Ford couldn't fix the host's bicameral mind. Even his latest greatest still hearing voices in their head as demonstrated by the boy killing the dog. From what I can gather, with Arnold's death and the park shutting down still does not eliminate the problem of how to face the sentient host. Proclaiming their humanity to the world or controlling them. It's clear Ford opted for control and neither did Arnold given him a solution, but Ford is slipping from his control of the host and Delos intervening at the same time. I believe many just got sidetracked the show is about Arnold vs Ford. At the core of it all is about the host and to what end will become of them. If you take a step back Arnold is the douchebag in things that has come to pass.

One of Ford's last words to Dolores:
He has taken 35 years to correct his mistake.

Perhaps it's time to let loose on the host and how they would react in an organic manner.

The reason why Bernard needed to experience harsh betrayal is to prep him for things to come. Ford spent years nurturing Bernard to be Arnold. Perhaps he is able to do good for the host or he's able to evolve the code. It's anybody's guess.

Metaphorically, Bernard able to say goodbye to Charlie while Arnold couldn't. In that sense Bernard perhaps a better version of Arnold.

With the constant flashback, I won't be surprised that Ford storyline still able to carry on. Just don't be like a cheap switch and bait comic book storyline. Unless they have an interesting angle with it.

Then again that's my opinion...you can disagree or I'm just dead wrong.

The voices are in fact symbolic I feel. When Dolores finally realized the voice isn't from her maker, or a God, it's just herself, that's the moment sentience was reached. It isn't an error, the error is determining where the voices come from.

Delores is pretty..
so next season can have east world pulak..

A very sound theory that look out of the box to what was presented. At least it's not pigeon hole to just MIB, Ford or Bernard.

It would be really interesting if this is forthcoming.

Ford was never against creation of AI, he merely thought consciousness in host was impossible, until Arnold's death and he realized there was a mean to make it possible, but he needed 35 years to correct that mistake, for the host to accumulate enough memories to draw on in order to have a foundations to make their own decisions.

Westworld really surprised me. I liked all the shooting scenes in the series. Like real wild west.

Watched the entire season over the weekend

A brilliant, brilliant take on the film as a TV series.

Mind blowingly, excruciatingly numbing at times to understand but at the end of it all you are left wanting more.

Yet another HBO winner.

The twists/revelations are quite the shocker... now the 'real work' begins as I need to understand the concepts/ideas being brought up and of course, what exactly each episode meant because it seems that what we see is just the "surface".

...and let's not forget Ramin Djawadi (composer of iconic themes including GoT) once again, a stunner!

The best TV theme since GoT



Worth mentioning also Paint It, Black by Rolling Stones redone by Ramin.

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I do feel that bit's still up for dispute. One of the conversations between Ford and Bernard hinted that Ford only changed his POV after Arnold's death if I recall correctly. And we know they were arguing before his death, and the way Ford treats hosts before like when he crossed paths with Dolores he just ignored her as if she isn't even worth a glance.
Don't know if they ever will reveal more into the Ford-Arnold dynamic. So many questions left unanswered.

He did explain after Arnold's death he realised he was wrong and took 35 yrs to correct it

I think it's separate. The 35 years was correcting Arnold's mistake. It was never revealed what he and Arnold was arguing over I think, still waiting for confirmation. Not sure if it's canon, but Arnold never wanted the park open while Ford did.

my theory for the 35 years of error correction:

put it this way, just treat the host like human being, upon creation Age 0, even with all the Arnold's AI codes, they are still codes, scripts to tell them what to do, just 1s & 0s, black & white. They are just infant

But with Ford's effort, the host are able to "learn" and "experience" something that's wasn't part of their scripts, just like us human being grew more matured with experience throughout the years.
But because most of them are put into the endless loops, hence it took them 35 years to accumulate "experience" to become aware. No more 1s & 0s, and no longer just black & white, but many shades of grey in between, just like us, grown adults.

To a degree many of us are over analyzing what has Arnold done to spite Ford. To me right now I just regard Arnold as a McGuffin to simply bridging point a to point b. The show is very deft at creating contradicting personality and shifting motivations of their characters. On surface Ford perceived as a machiavellian archetype but time and time again have little moments to show that he isn't.
He did confessed Arnold is the ideal partner.
He is a flaw character that fixated with sentimental feelings.

It's oversimplified to just label Ford fixes Arnold's error and I just don't buy he had great animosity towards Arnold. I would rather subscribe to the idea Ford building the foundation to honor Arnold's vision of the host. Again the show is up for open interpretation.

Charlotte could be the bigger threat to focus coming forward as she did started something with Sizemore involving Dolores Papa.