hey guys, have anyone here bought pre-owned unit from Mazda Anshin? How's the interest rate going? Pls share abit info with me cuz I'm kinda interested in one of these pre-owned unit thanks guys

Call me dinosaur or whatever, although my car has these assistance features, i'm still wary of it and prefer to take the driving responsibility to myself. I don't even use cruise control when i drive round trip from south to north. But anyway, to each of their opinions. My standing is more on the cautious end.

On the point regarding auto pilot in flight. Actually, flight autopilot is much more simpler but also more established. Flight autopilot has very little to deal with. There is no pedestrians, no other vehicles within a specified distance away from any direction, and the infrastructure on the ground is robust but as simple possible to guide the plane. Although the air space is damn vast, the allocated path is actually very limited and all civilian planes have to follow it. Any new additions are subject to approval by IATA and also the countries involved. If you remember, sometime ago, AirAsia had some issues regarding airspace in Indonesia because approval expired. And despite the plane being autonomous in flight, the autonomous portion only works between air to runway. The autopilot is not able to handle take off procedure, guide the plan to taxiway or park it at the allocated terminal after landing. Most of the ground work is still manual. Further, if the weather gets bad, the pilot takes over especially during landing.

Besides that, the main difference that separates air and land traffic is the fact that air traffic is 100% monitored for all airbourne vehicles (military and stealth aircrafts aside). At any moment of time, there is someone monitoring the approximate position, aka the air traffic controller, from either the departing end of arrival end. And when changing air space, a handshake between the air traffic controllers and the pilots have to be made, confirmed and acknowledged. In short, everything is within controlled environment as much as possible. And when it comes to emergencies and protocol has to be broken, there is usually plenty of time/space to troubleshoot. In the event of catastrophic failure, the damage is usually limited to the plane itself and the crash site. However, the air traffic still flows regardless of the failure of a plane.

Now if look to car driving environment from the perspective of flight autopilot systems, almost guarantee can't even move. There are so many more parametres involved and the variability and randomness on the ground is so much higher. From pedestrians, to other non autonomous cars, to weather, to light reflections, to road conditions, emergencies etc. For cars, there is so much to handle for the environment. I said earlier in the airspace that there is strict separation rules, but that is hard to apply on road as the volume of cars itself won't allow it. Even if the autonomous driving system enforces it, there will bound to be situations that will break it, intentionally or accidentally. In the event of emergencies/failures, the time and space given is most likely less than a few seconds on a busy road. This situation will choke the traffic flow like what we usually face now.

Then there is the moral dilemma. In the event a crash cannot be avoided, will the system decide self preservation as top priority or preservation of more lives by sacrificing itself....

My thoughts are that despite how much car automation has progressed, the ground based infrastructure to guide and coordinate the traffic is just not there. Without that, the full proof-ness of autonomous driving will be lacking a huge chunk. Despite car to car communications, there is no better cornerstone than something that is stationary and fixed. Further, these dedicated infrastructures can serve as a point to reduced the burden or serve as a 2nd factor confirmation on the environmental parameters. That is going to cost a plenty lot of money to remodify/implement/build in existing infrastructure, not to even say the amount of time required to implement is across the road network.

MY conservative estimation for these to be properly implemented in advanced countries will be at least 15 years away. Singapore would probably be a leader/showcase country for autonomous driving as it is a really small country, the road networks can't expand too much from now till then, their information network can be cast easily due to existing infocom infrastructure (both hardware/software and regulation wise), the consistency of the road itself and the relatively low car to population density.

For me, those features are just a bonus. I believe the technology still have long way to go in replacing actual human driving senses (excluding those Kopi-O license driver)

I think some people had the misperception over these sensing features.

We want it not because we want the car to drive itself or we expect the car act or steer like human beings.

I want it just because it can help me to reduce unnecessary/unwanted accidents. For me even with these bonus features, eyes still on the road, hands still on the steering.

You must be stupid enough to expect that you can put your hands off and let the lane keeping assist to steer itself.

Why I want more safety features just like how you want more airbags in your car. To let you "feel more safe" when driving the car. Kalau airbags ada 10 I also will sapu all 10 bila triggered kena macam balut dumpling.

Well let's cheer things up a little. M3 GVC HB reporting in!

Ya man, why pay more for kosong car when the same price you can get more features to assist the driving and to be safer for you and your family right?
So many airbags ah, later people will say takata case, airbag could kill you also, haha.

Congrats! It's awesome now that the HB comes with all the features.

Please report back on how the car drives!

Clocked in 50km already today, so far so good.
Like the throttle response and handling, still fiddling with i-stop..
And noticed that the car runs pretty hot, even after being off for 3 hours or so, touching the hood still feels very warm.

Have been waiting on the HB for awhile now, it was a shame the pre-facelift HB was just mid-spec.

Who doesn't want more features for the same price? But more features always come with higher price, that's a fact of life.

Not necessarily.. Especially not in the USA or Australia.. Here in Malaysia, a Toyota Camry is considered a luxury vehicle.. Over there, it's regarded as Myvi level... Another example would be Apple iPhones.. New gen with faster processor, better camera, software, bla bla.. Launches at more or less the same price point and what happens to the older generation after awhile? Price drops..

So don't play into the manufacturers and dealers game here... We as the buyers can control the market. We demand more value for our RM. Nothing wrong with that. Active safety systems > than 10 airbags. Prevention > Cure.. Unless you'd rather feel safer in an accident where all 10 airbags are deployed..

Yes you will need to. Unless its a small toddler. My 3yo would need it to be pushed, if not, his leg will hit the seat.

Both does not matter in term of room, honestly. I had it on rear facing previously and front facing now. Problem is mostly putting a child seat at the front psaaenger seat, then you will need to push tht seat all the way back and that will be uncomfortable to the passenger behind.

How about the NVH? is it improved over the pre-facelift Mazda 3?

what is the average service price for mazda 3 for minor & major service. AFter the free service schedule.

Definitely improved a lot! Still some noticeable Tyre noise but bearable imo. It's not pin drop silent but I feel that the engine insulation might have been overdone, can't feel the engine vroom. Hahaha

so comparable to Civic?
based on what you mentioned about engine insulation, I think BMW and Merc are like this also, their engine noise insulation is very good.

This post has been edited by dororo: Jun 3 2017, 03:23 PM

Oh nah. Not comparable to civic at all, that's a car designed for comfort. This isn't

Imagine if someone behind u fall as sleep when driving, but the lane assist trigger the steering and wake them up, then it will reduce 1 accident cases , and it not fun where other human mistake and hitting u, u have go thru the polis report here and there , wasting alot of time

What if human mistake and take 1 of ur family life, argg i really wish those feature can be standard for all car in future

it should be made mandatory for all cars.
too bad the enforcement is slow..

M3 CKD 2015 reporting in.
Been driving this babe for almost a week now, absolutely loving it,

What I like:
i) Vroom Vroom, really packs a lot of power
ii) Butter smooth handling
iii) Paddle Shift!
iv) the car is just so sexy
v) Sound system, so good.....

What I don't:
i) Tyre Noise, really quite noisy on the road
ii) Rear Seat not as comfortable
iii) first time driving C-Segment, its... big!


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Do you guys know whether there is anywhere that sells magnetic customize sunshade for the M3? Something like the ninja shades.