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 LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2

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post Mar 18 2007, 01:43 PM

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article 77d from FIA
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77 d) Unless he has used wet or extreme-weather tyres during the race, each driver must use at least one set of each specification of dry-weather tyres during the race.

Massa and Ferrari clearly breached that
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post Mar 18 2007, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Mar 18 2007, 01:43 PM)
it was only ONE race...dont get all pumped up..
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dude, let me list down the pumped up supporter of Lewis after the race
- Sir jackie Stewart
- Sir Stirling Moss OBE
- Niki Lauda
- Nico Rosberg
And millions and millions of teh rock fan!!!! <-- getting ahead of myself there
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post Mar 18 2007, 01:48 PM

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err, EVERYONE IS USING TEH SAME TYRE dude. and during the wet 1st test day at Melbourne, the mcLaren was the fastest on the wets

Davidson is in Hospital after the race

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post Mar 18 2007, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Mar 18 2007, 01:49 PM)
okok but we'll see  smile.gif

and btw, anyone know if there is an exception to the tire rule IF engine change?
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No, the tyre rule does not have anything to do with the tyre rule
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post Mar 18 2007, 02:00 PM

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I think the FIA will just look away if no team complained. From what I read, nobody is complaining, expecting the FIA to do the same favour to them if they want to do it. But ImO, why make a rule when you let someone break it?

fastest laps
1 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 41 1:25.235

2 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 20 1:26.314

3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 20 1:26.351

4 10 Robert Kubica BMW 19 1:26.642 <----- rclxms.gif

5 16 Nico Rosberg Williams 40 1:26.721

6 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 37 1:26.722

7 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 18 1:26.892

8 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 28 1:27.044

9 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 21 1:27.501

10 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 44 1:27.592 <-- he spins more than a DJ

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post Mar 18 2007, 02:07 PM

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Renault boss Flavio Briatore has refused to give any allowance for Heikki Kovalainen's rookie status and slammed the Finn's error-strewn F1 debut in the Australian GP.


After failing to qualify in the top ten, Kovalainen struggled throughout the season-opening race, committing a series of mistakes and making regular excursions off the track. Having impressed throughout winter testing, his dismal performance was a considerable surprise and one which left his temperamental team boss thoroughly unimpressed.


"Kovalainen had a horrible race," Briatore told RAI. "You need to be realistic: he did almost everything wrong.


"Of course he's a rookie but so is Hamilton so in these two weeks before the next race he needs to change his attitude and try to do better, because he has the capability to do it. Nothing went right today."


It wasn't an especially good day for the reigning World Champions overall either, with the underwhelming Giancarlo Fisichella unable to make an impression at the front of the grid. For the moment at least, Renault appear to be behind BMW and McLaren, as well as the front-running Ferrari.


According to Briatore, his team are around three-tenths of a second per lap slower than their leading rivals - a deficit he blames squarely on the switch to Bridgestone tyres following Michelin's exit from F1.


"We had a balanced car on Michelin, so to switch to Bridgestone we had a disadvantage, while McLaren had a different design so they had an advantage," he complained.


However, the Italian believes that Renault can still usurp McLaren and Ferrari this season.


"We haven't finished development, because when we fitted Bridgestones in the wind tunnel we lost 7%, so we've recovered some of it. When we did the first test with McLaren on track, they had three tenths over us already.


"We hope to recover by Bahrain, when we'll get the new aerodynamic parts."

Renault is f***ed up this season
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post Mar 18 2007, 02:16 PM

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check 6~20 pages before this one
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post Mar 18 2007, 02:38 PM

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the thing was, there was Lewis to make a benchmark, and it was a HIGH benchmark indeed. But then again, comparing to Rosberg last season, rosberg did better too, thus i was too a bit disappointed with Heikki
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post Mar 18 2007, 10:31 PM

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Actually he started on soft according to that list. I agree with Hornet on this, on tracks with very low grip like Monaco it can be dangerous as usually, the ONLY tyre choice there is supersoft
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post Mar 18 2007, 10:44 PM

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Up close and personal, Wurz finally sees Red Bull have wings
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post Mar 19 2007, 12:57 PM

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During the first stop Fernando stopped longer to take 2 laps more fuel. considering that he was about 2~3 seconds behind Lewis before their second stop, even if Sato did not held up Lewis, Fernando should get that second place comfortably as he has 2 more laps of low fuel and his own stop will be much faster than Lewis's.
Ron Dennis himself confirming this after the race makes the argument 'Lewis should have got second' redundant


Added on March 19, 2007, 1:00 pm
QUOTE(Hornet @ Mar 19 2007, 12:50 AM)
If i'm not mistaken, Michael was about to lap DC when DC lifted his accelerator (not sure which part of the circuit, but i think its a high speed section), it was a wet track, so lifting will cause the car to slow down very fast, Michael crash into DC.
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It was at the back section of the track, and no, it was not a high speed section. Both cars managed to limp into the pit, with an angry Schumacher threathening Coulthard. I think it was in France 2000 when Coulthard showed his middle finger to Schumacher when he won't let him through as retaliation for that incident

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post Mar 19 2007, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Mar 19 2007, 09:40 PM)
Ferrari were clearly faster than the Mclaren, heck Hamilton was droping alonso at the early part of the race. Alonso lost it plain and simple. Hamilton was then compromise by Sato and so lose out to Alonso.

Nick was clearly faster and Hamilton was no where near his back. Alonso was even further behind. Did Ron even watch the same race?

Ron will be the downfall of Alonso if anything.
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Watching the same race I do saw that while Fernando have 2 laps more fuel after the second stop, he was no more than 3~5 seconds down the road from Lewis. That was significant enought as 5 seconds is the margin needed to leap ahead if you are more heavily fuelled. Sato was not an issue. yes, he comprimised Lewis, but in the end, lewis will be closer, not in front of fernando after the stop.
You need luck, and experience in F1.

Needless to say Ferrari still is weird in letting their team Radio being broadcasted. The line 'And remember, this communication will be broadcasted live' uttered by the race engineer was shocking to me. If you want it to be broadcast, just broadcast it. no need to sugarcoat it. The reason team radio being broadcast is
- checking for team orders (heh, like they will let the out so easily)
- give viewers the chance to hear the hectic race startegy on the fly
- Uncensored driver comments (try searching for Juan Pablo's when he was at Williams. that should be good)
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post Mar 19 2007, 10:10 PM

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They do this season. and with the FIA, not ITV. But still, they do seem reluctant on letting others hear them

When you have blamed your driver, who else can you blame?
QUOTE(briatore)
Flavio Briatore has blamed the switch from Michelin to Bridgestone tyres for Renault's slow start to the 2007 F1 season.


Although Renault began the past two seasons with a race victory, they were unable to repeat the performance this year.


Giancarlo Fisichella could only manage sixth place in Sunday's season-opening Australian GP, while team-mate Heikki Kovalainen finished in tenth place.


And although some would suggest that Renault's lack of performance is the result of losing Fernando Alonso to McLaren, Briatore says it's actually down to the loss of the Michelin tyres.


All the teams were forced to switch to Bridgestone rubber after Michelin withdrew from F1 at the end of last year.


"We know we are behind, we knew this from the beginning," Briatore said following Sunday's race in Melbourne.


"We have a problem because the moment we put the Bridgestone on the 2006 car, immediately McLaren was quicker than us. Our car was so well-balanced with the Michelin, really we lost more than anybody."


He added: "The performance today (Sunday) really was a little bit worse than what we expected."


Renault now look forward to a three-day test at Sepang, where engineering head Pat Symonds says they will try their best to close the gap to the front-runners.


"The fact that we've got a better picture now of the relative competitiveness doesn't really alter the way we go about things," he said.


"This time last year we were out in front but we were still working pretty hard to make sure that we stayed there.


"The important thing is to try and analyse where we can best put the limited resources that you always have to try and close that gap down, and that's really where the analysis will be going on this week.


"We have three days of testing in Malaysia before the next race, there are a few new bits coming as always, so we're working from there."



Added on March 19, 2007, 10:13 pmHmmmm... interesting. From Guardian UK and Finnish Iltasanomat
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Kimi had a leak during the closing stages of teh race due to overheating and extreme usage. While small, this might lead to an engine change in Malaysia


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post Mar 20 2007, 11:37 AM

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BMW's pace seems superficial as Nick was on soft. Thus also why he was fast off the line. I think they can be the 3rd best team, and who knows, might even win during the course of the season
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Mar 20 2007, 04:49 PM)
a driver doesn't need to have detailed information during a race. It will disrupt his focus in the race. That's why the pitboard only give so little info. Any other information can be managed by his team. That's what the team is there for smile.gif
nah...I couldn't listen to another one of Alonso's rumbling nonsense...turned off the TV after he mentioned Fisi and went to bed tongue.gif

anyway...here we go again -
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Nonsense. Schumacher likes to know what's happening all around him all the time. How many times does he ends up being WC?
And on the Ferrari car issue, teams have legit reason to complain can complain. Liek when Ferrari complained of McLaren's brake cooler in 98' or McLaren's 3rd braking system also in teh same year. Both are legal and yet was banned... interesting isn't it?
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post Mar 20 2007, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Mar 20 2007, 07:55 PM)
concur but if i may ask..whats with the pitboard? its not like they can see it can they? unless info is down then no choice but otherwise, whats with pitboards


Added on March 20, 2007, 7:59 pmon a sidenote, i'll be damned if kimi has reliabiliy issues at ferrari
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According to Martin Brundle, it's suprising how a driver can see and absorb a pitboard information. It's like an instinct among drivers.
considering I'm not one, I can't tell you more biggrin.gif
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post Mar 21 2007, 12:09 AM

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Some headlines after the Aussie GP
- Jean Todt says that Ferrari is not reliable enough
- Pat symonds defends Heikki

And to quote Nick Heidfeld
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'Q. (Frederic Ferret - L'Equipe) "What is the difference between the two compounds for the race?"


'NH: "One is hard and the other one is soft."'

ain't that right Mr Obviousnick?
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:55 AM

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Ross Brawn will tell him EVERYTHING he wants to know. how far is teh car, how fast was his lap, how the car was doing, etc. That's why ppl said Kimi cannot be the next Schumacher. Hungary 1998, he was trailing both McLaren. Ross Brawn then said to him he needs x laps with xx.xx times for him to leapfrog both cars when they stopped for fuel. He did just that.
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Mar 21 2007, 12:19 PM)
ceh...that part about how many quick laps of coz la. Even I know how to calculate myself during race. Dun need pitcrew to tell me. But it is inconsistent with what I mentioned earlier...nvm...

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Actually, it's hard to calculate that all by yourself. While you know the relative distance of you and your competitor, you can't calculate on the fly on how will an xx.xx time of lap will give you an advantage when your competitors are doing xx.xx times. I want you to try

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